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stadair
12-04-2008, 05:19 PM
Hello, brand new guy here. This past summer I purchased a 1993 SSP Mustang. It had originally been painted black & white for CHP duty. But was never comissioned as such. It had gray paint under hood and trunk. It is currently green. No holes anywhere for mounting radios, lights, antennas, etc. I been doing some research and have just found out that it was a former National Insurance Crime Bureau undercover car. Does anyone know about these cars? I've contacted the NICB via e-mail. We'll see when/if they respond.

ImEvil1
12-04-2008, 08:50 PM
Interesting...and welcome to the site. NICB is a private, non-profit group but I have heard that they "assist" with investigations. How did you find out that this car was used by them?

stadair
12-04-2008, 10:24 PM
I called the CHP Motor Transport and asked about the NICB on my carfax report. The further I go into this research, it seems that there are a lot of carfax reports that start with the NICB as the first report. I don't think that this car had anything to do with the NICB besides them doing their job.

I contacted California's DMV this evening and have paper work to send them to get an ownership history report on the car.

As stated before, I'm new to this. The buck tags indicate that this car was for the CHP. And I see evidence of the black & white paint scheme under the now green paint. I also have gray paint under that green in some places and under the hood and trunk lid. I am only the third owner. The guy I bought it from received the car as green.

What confuses me is that there are no holes to be found anywhere where radios, antennas or anything else would have been mounted. I understand they fill in the exterior holes before resale, but the holes in the dash and rear deck too?

And I'm told that it has the "holster rip" in the drivers seat.

ImEvil1
12-04-2008, 10:27 PM
Research is definitely fun, and we are all still learning here, too, so no worries.

Post up some pics of the car when you can, including the DSO from the door data sticker and the buck tags, and we'll see if we can help you out.

Interior could have been swapped out, but it may be hard to tell...

jarhed123
12-04-2008, 10:28 PM
Welcome to the sight. Post some pictures of your car and check on the inner quarter panels for patched antenna holes.

stadair
12-06-2008, 10:35 AM
Here are some pics. But looks like I have to retake a couple; the door sticker for one.

Looked for a patch in the quarter panels, none to be found.

stadair
12-06-2008, 10:46 AM
Here are a few more pics, smaller files...

I really can't get a good pic of both buck tags. Here is what they read:

DSO 72 0009
CALIF
PAINT DOOR AND ROOF
WHITE CODE WB
REMAINDER BLACK UA

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2660 LX2 LX E2 111908
AC HB
SK
G6 PF 1016 72009
2 111908 50

ImEvil1
12-06-2008, 01:29 PM
Toshi,

Your DSO matches the confirmed code for '93 CHP cars (0009). Chris N. (SparksSVT) has a '93 with the same DSO, within a few of yours on the VIN as well (111895 v/s 111908).

If you can't find where the whip was on the rear quarter, your car may have been one of the cars with the new antenna setup (roof and rear glass).

Chris has a nice Fotki with pics of his car here: http://public.fotki.com/SparkSVT/restoration-of-chp-5305/

SparkSVT
12-06-2008, 10:20 PM
if you guys need some pics of my CHP "repaired" antenna hole in the quarter pannel I think I may have one in my harddrive. If you need other photos let me know.

Chris

stadair
12-07-2008, 12:29 AM
Very cool pics. My SSP does not have any marks on the package tray from lights or on the headliner. And as far as I can tell, no hole on the roof either, but I wasn't looking there. I'll look tomorrow.

This afternoon I started in on my cars heater core replacement. Only took four hours to get it out! With breaks now and then. But when I was in it, I found something interesting with the stereos antenna. From the stereo, the cable comes to the passenger kick panel to a small rectangular box. It enters the box at the narrow end of the rectangular and then at the opposite end the box has two male connectors which would form a "T". Another cable exits one side of the "T" and goes to the passenger fender. I should just take a picture of it instead of trying to discribe it. Anyway, it is not something I have in my '90 LX convertible. Sound like something police like?

stadair
12-07-2008, 12:39 AM
One of the pictures, 60/165, of the drivers floor board is very helpful to me. I see a patch where the drivers seat, bolts into the floor. The front left seat foot. Mine, the sheet metal has been torn. I did not know it and one day while driving, the seat rocked back on me while I was trying to shift! Not only that, but the left rear seat foot is cracked to boot. Is that common on these SSP cars?

ImEvil1
12-07-2008, 01:50 AM
Sounds like you may have a Sti-co splitter in there between the FM and antenna? Pull it out when you get a chance and you should be able to confirm.

Floor and seat problems are pretty common with these cars...

stadair
12-07-2008, 10:25 AM
Here is the pic of the splitter...

5pt0Joe
12-07-2008, 12:18 PM
nice unique ride!

FHP#1357
12-10-2008, 12:22 AM
NICB assists us in law enforcement through thier amazing data base, If you send PM me the VIN I can call NICB and see what they tell me, if you dont what to send the whole thing send me the last 10

stadair
12-10-2008, 10:57 AM
PM sent.

Yeah, so I've found out what NICB does. The lady at the CHP Motor Transport steered me wrong. I later looked at another carfax I have for an 2003 Toyota Tacoma and see that it also has NICB as the first entry. That kind of gave me a clue as they had nothing to do with the vehicle itself physically. Friday I sent in paper work to CA DMV for Ownership History. We'll see what comes back in a couple weeks. Meanwhile, I'll be searching for the unit number today. I've got two layers of paint to go through.

28HopUp
12-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Nice looking SSP! I like that color too...