lew 94

[lew 94]

HI, I'm a newbie from Ga. My name is Reese. I have a 91 LX Coupe 5.0.I am the second owner, had it since 1993.I had a Street Terminator Lentech AOD recently put in and it works exactly like Len said it would, with a 2400 stall converter it perked the 302 up.Anyone have any feedback on a rear gear.It presently ha stock 2:73s. I have heard everything from 3:27 to 4:56 for my combination.My mechanic recommends 3:27 since it doesn't have a lock up converter in OD and the rpm is a little higher in OD.Any ideas are welcomed.

[28HopUp]

Reese, welcome to the forum!

Is your 91 coupe an SSP? If so, do you know it's history?

Regarding gear choice, it depends upon your intended use. Will it strictly be a 1/4 mile racer, or will it have split duties on the street as well. What engine mods do you have and how much HP is it making? If you're looking for 1/4 mile performance, you'll also want to take into consideration the rear tire diameter and how it determines the final effective gear ratio. A taller tire (or drag radial) will reduce the numeric value of your gears. Dont' underestimate this - my taller rear 255/60R15 BFG's would reduce 3.73:1 gears to 3.59:1 gearing.

Once you know your final effective gear ratio for a given diameter rear tire, then you can look at your axle choices to optimize your top non-overdrive transmission gear for maxing out while hitting the traps.

[lew 94]

No mine is not a SSP, just a plain LX Coupe, but it is the only Lx Coupe in Augusta in a plain white wrapper.Mine has never been on a drag strip.It's been pampered most of its life, been ran but not abused.I have "rolled off" against a few cars on the street.But I have been very careful, hard to explain to the cops being a middle aged man.I have 245/50/16 tires and have worked out several ratios in OD for a good street gear.I have the wide ratio gear set in the AOD,with the looser converter, which helps a lot.My motor is stock except for a Cobra intake and 1.7 rockers and an off-road h pipe.Thanks for the input.
Later, Reese

[28HopUp]

No mine is not a SSP, just a plain LX Coupe, but it is the only Lx Coupe in Augusta in a plain white wrapper.Mine has never been on a drag strip.It's been pampered most of its life, been ran but not abused.I have "rolled off" against a few cars on the street.But I have been very careful, hard to explain to the cops being a middle aged man.I have 245/50/16 tires and have worked out several ratios in OD for a good street gear.I have the wide ratio gear set in the AOD,with the looser converter, which helps a lot.My motor is stock except for a Cobra intake and 1.7 rockers and an off-road h pipe.Thanks for the input.
Later, Reese

IMO, I'd suggest going with 3.73:1 gears. That's a very good ratio, yet not too short (higher numeric value). Since these trannies have a good OD cog, the shorter gears are less of a problem than say in a more Classic Mustang.

[Texaspony87]

Guess I'll be the first to say it...... this is a purist SSP site not a "hot rod" forum. Let's keep it that way please.

[28HopUp]

Guess I'll be the first to say it...... this is a purist SSP site not a "hot rod" forum. Let's keep it that way please.

I realize that the OP's car isn't an SSP, but he posted a reasonable question without causing a fuss. I thought this was an SSP "enthusiast" site. If the members here are strictly purists, then I don't think they'll like what I've done with CHP #8395 - I had the drip rail molding painted body color instead of leaving it stainless.
:eek:

[NoDrama43]

Guess I'll be the first to say it...... this is a purist SSP site not a "hot rod" forum. Let's keep it that way please.

+ a gazzillion

there are lots of sites out there like corral, 4eyedpride, ssporg. etc where you can engage in the hot rodding stuff. This site is mainly for those of us that live and breath ssp cars.....

your welcome to be a member and hang out, maybe we can get you to find an ssp to tinker with. :)

Bill I am concerned about your paint ethics...... ;)


PS...yes my avatar is a one off 09 gt500 with the special police pursuit interceptor graphics package.... sshhh its a secret....

[ImEvil1]

I see both sides....OP isn't here causing any problems, just asking for advice on the car he is modding. Personally, I'd take issue with it if it were an SSP that he was modding, but he isn't.

I have a bigger problem with clones and "tribute" cars myself, but I also see Joe H.'s point. This place was established on the premise of a "purist" site, but moreso for the preservation and restoration of the cars. This, unfortunately, occurs in different degrees. I think I've come to the point that as long as a car is being saved, I'm AOK with it.

Plus, we don't have any wanna-be types on here talking about fake pursuits, decked out Crown Vics (or other package vehicles), or playing with their lights and sirens and LEDs. I think it's all good.

[jarhed123]

...fake pursuits, decked out Crown Vics (or other package vehicles), or playing with their lights and sirens and LEDs. I think it's all good.What are you talking about... Isn't that only for real COPS while on the job. ;)

[28HopUp]

Bill I am concerned about your paint ethics...... ;)


You know me - always causing trouble! :D I'm surprised that y'all still talk to me for running 10-holes on a 4-eye! I'd still like to find a way to run the steel wheels with the larger front brakes that are on my SSP.

[jarhed123]

You know me - always causing trouble! :D I'm surprised that y'all still talk to me for running 10-holes on a 4-eye!
Not having the correct paint or equipment on the car is not the problem people on this forum have. You can be incorrect about it all as long as you can acknowledge it is incorrect. The problem is when people put in what they think belongs and then want everyone to accept it as correct and preach what they don't know. :yes:

[CHP8336]

My car was a SPECIAL ORDER CHP with a 408 engine. I think that that there is only one of these cars they ordered. lol lol ......... All kiding aside the fact that a person does not have a bone stock car, should not mean that they should not be treated less than on any website. My car has 100% correct CHP equipment. My engine is a 1969 351 stroker with a Eagle crank so it now is a 408. I feel as though as long as you dont mutealate the car it should be acceptable to do mods on your car as long as your intent is to preserve the car. My car will never be for sale period. If some members feel as though I am off base with my views I think that all of the members that feel that no mods are acceptable the those members should look into starting a new ssp mustang site with the only way you will be accepted is if your car is only in stock ssp form.Then we will not have any of these issues............

Rich

[Texaspony87]

OH Brother!!?:rolleyes: This IS the new site.

[Texaspony87]

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[NoDrama43]

I will just throw this out there for consideration by all.

Most everyone here has an ssp car and has an interest in these particular cars for various reasons, each their own. Not everyone has a bone stock ssp car and I assure you that is ok with ALL the moderators and admin here. We like to see the cars saved, restored, showed , etc etc. but one of our most important "rules" here is that members represent the cars and themselves in a professional manner especially at shows etc. If I go to a show with an ssp car and make an ass out of myself it reflects negatively on all "those cop mustang guys". So if a member posts up a video on u-tube of a fake pursuit thru a parking lot we are going to take issue with that. I have seen ssp members post videos of themselves doing smokey burnouts and donuts on public streets then get seriously offended if someone takes issue with it. It all boils down to what the moderators and the majority of the members are willing to accept. I guess we are a little stricter here but it makes for a focused interesting site without all the extra BS. In regards to the mis information highway I can say this. If you post it up and say it's so, then it needs to be so. Putting up erroneous false information without researching the topic is not acceptable to us here. Most importantly, as this site continues to grow there will be 'growing pains" and we have found several things that needed to be corrected in the past and we did so immediately. We are all intelligent enough to realize that we learn new things everyday and if we need to make a correction we are adult enough to do so. Not everyone likes us here, or agrees with our method of running a website but that is OK.

The most important parts to the equation is that we represent the cars and the cops that drove them in a respectful manner, try to keep the BS to a minimum, lock out the rif raf, and have an enjoyable experience when we are on this site.

[28HopUp]

I will just throw this out there for consideration by all.

Most everyone here has an ssp car and has an interest in these particular cars for various reasons, each their own. Not everyone has a bone stock ssp car and I assure you that is ok with ALL the moderators and admin here. We like to see the cars saved, restored, showed , etc etc. but one of our most important "rules" here is that members represent the cars and themselves in a professional manner especially at shows etc. If I go to a show with an ssp car and make an ass out of myself it reflects negatively on all "those cop mustang guys". So if a member posts up a video on u-tube of a fake pursuit thru a parking lot we are going to take issue with that. I have seen ssp members post videos of themselves doing smokey burnouts and donuts on public streets then get seriously offended if someone takes issue with it. It all boils down to what the moderators and the majority of the members are willing to accept. I guess we are a little stricter here but it makes for a focused interesting site without all the extra BS. In regards to the mis information highway I can say this. If you post it up and say it's so, then it needs to be so. Putting up erroneous false information without researching the topic is not acceptable to us here. Most importantly, as this site continues to grow there will be 'growing pains" and we have found several things that needed to be corrected in the past and we did so immediately. We are all intelligent enough to realize that we learn new things everyday and if we need to make a correction we are adult enough to do so. Not everyone likes us here, or agrees with our method of running a website but that is OK.

The most important parts to the equation is that we represent the cars and the cops that drove them in a respectful manner, try to keep the BS to a minimum, lock out the rif raf, and have an enjoyable experience when we are on this site.


Don't take this the wrong way Jim, but that it probably the best-worded post I've seen you make!
:thumbsup:

[FHP813]

If some members feel as though I am off base with my views I think that all of the members that feel that no mods are acceptable the those members should look into starting a new ssp mustang site

Rich

No offense Rich, but we did... No one said mods were unacceptable, just not looked at with the enthusiasm that the "modder" might expect.:)

[NoDrama43]

Don't take this the wrong way Jim, but that it probably the best-worded post I've seen you make!
:thumbsup:

uhh .....thanks Bill. ( I think?) :)

[CHP8336]

Well said Jim. +1

[ImEvil1]

I'm glad this discussion started (even though it technically is a true hijack). :ninja:

Personally, I've come to the point where I can tolerate mods. If we run a guy off from here for having minor mods to his SSP, what good are we really doing anyone? Don't get me wrong....many of you remember the guy who showed up at ORG a few years back talking about how he was going to take a rare, unmolested SSP car, cut it all up, and shove a Chevrolet motor in it. We didn't tolerate that type of garbage then (over there) and we still won't now. Same goes for someone parting a perfectly restorable car. But a few variations from "stock"? Not my cup of tea, but to each their own, and it's not like anyone is going to get kicked out of here for it.

Alot of guys here do have experience with racing and modified cars, and the OP was asking about rear gears on a non-SSP. No big deal to me. I like how Bernie worded his response, too....SSP mods not looked at with the same "enthusiasm".

x1000 on Jim's comments about conducting ourselves appropriately and respectfully. We really don't have many problems here, and I think that reflects positively on not only the members who participate, but also to everyone involved in running the thing. Everyone isn't always going to agree on every single issue; but we've shown we can compromise when necessary and also to agree to diasgree respectfully with each other at other times.