Looking at a 1991 SSP Need Help

[ajstoys63]

I am looking at a black 1991 SSP that was never marked. As I have been told it was owned by a government agency. It is an automatic and has 74000 miles on it. The ca is loaded with all of the options that you could get. It has the premium interior, am/fm/cassette, no pillar light, oil cooler, seat supports, full size spare/with cover. It does have the buck tags but I could not see the I.D. numbers. It has an "X" pipe with an aftermarket exhaust (which I am not to happy with) but that can be changed. He wanted $8900 and I got him down to $7500... Is that too much? The car has no rust but it has been re-painted, (Maaco job) so there are some holdays with that... All the panels are original... I am just curious what the average price is for a car like this... Thanks, Al

[FlyinTiger]

"Too much" can only be determined by you. Currently, the market is alright, not soft like non specialty Mustangs. If the car makes you happy, buy it. But keep in mind, in the world of SSP's, a marked, 2-tone, 5-speed will always be more valuable. Post some pics if you get a chance.

[ImEvil1]

Does the car still have the door data tag?

Price-wise, Donny is right...it's up to you. I'd say you can do better than what the guy was originally asking, though, with JPargo's car (if it didn't sell already....46K mile Santa Clara car with a beautiful paint job for the same $$).

[ajstoys63]

If you are talking about the regular manufacturer sticker yes its on the drivers side door opening. The buck tags are still behind the headlight but I couldn't read the numbers...I would rather have an un-marked vehicle then a marked one. Does anybody on here have a clean one for sale? Here is the link to the dealer that has it on consignment.
http://www.stradacars.com/webtemplate.aspx?iid=2479519

[ajstoys63]

Oh and by the way... I do not want to rip the car apart to race it.. This car I'm looking at as an aftermarket exhaust, "X" pipe and cold air induction that I would ave to replace bact to as close to stock as I can get it... Thanks Guys!

[NoDrama43]

I am looking at a black 1991 SSP that was never marked. As I have been told it was owned by a government agency. It is an automatic and has 74000 miles on it. The ca is loaded with all of the options that you could get. It has the premium interior, am/fm/cassette, no pillar light, oil cooler, seat supports, full size spare/with cover. It does have the buck tags but I could not see the I.D. numbers. It has an "X" pipe with an aftermarket exhaust (which I am not to happy with) but that can be changed. He wanted $8900 and I got him down to $7500... Is that too much? The car has no rust but it has been re-painted, (Maaco job) so there are some holdays with that... All the panels are original... I am just curious what the average price is for a car like this... Thanks, Al

Evil is right on about jpargo's car. It is beautiful. I owned it for short time and can attest to the quality of the car. It is basically a turn key car ready for the show circuit. Not wanting to hijak the thread but for the money you would be ahead to at least talk to jon about the car.

[ssp91ssp]

Al,
welcome to the site !
I agree with these guys on John's car it's killer ...
As far as the one your looking at i also agree ! If you like it go for it ...it looks good in the pics ..maybe just replace the carpet as it looks stained a bit ..
good luck .

ssp91ssp
hector

[ajstoys63]

The person tha you are talking about that has his car for sale... Where is he and who is he? What year ishis car? I am open to suggestions... I looked at the carpets and they could be cleaned up they are in decent shape like you said just stained. Thanks..

[stadair]

The car looks real nice in the photos. I just have one minor comment...I don't think that those seats came with that car from the factory. They are GT seats as far as I know. I know my '90 LX convertible had them stock, but coupes?

[FlyinTiger]

The car looks real nice in the photos. I just have one minor comment...I don't think that those seats came with that car from the factory. They are GT seats as far as I know. I know my '90 LX convertible had them stock, but coupes?

The GT/LX 5.0 seats came in quite a few government ordered cars. They were optioned out a little better than the standard SSP.

[ImEvil1]

Those are the correct seats.....some GSA cars (DSO 83) received them.


Here is the link to JPargo's ad:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2206

[stadair]

Those are the correct seats.....some GSA cars (DSO 83) received them.


Here is the link to JPargo's ad:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2206

Interesting...

[FlyinTiger]

The person tha you are talking about that has his car for sale... Where is he and who is he? What year ishis car? I am open to suggestions... I looked at the carpets and they could be cleaned up they are in decent shape like you said just stained. Thanks..

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2206 Beautiful car. Gary did a thorough job restoring this one with many NOS parts, paint stripped to bare metal, etc.

[stadair]

The GT/LX 5.0 seats came in quite a few government ordered cars. They were optioned out a little better than the standard SSP.

I wish I had those seats in my SSP. The seats I have are SOOO uncomfortable! I don't know how an officer could sit in those all day long.

[ImEvil1]

The GT/LX 5.0 seats came in quite a few government ordered cars. They were optioned out a little better than the standard SSP.

I've seen some (in person, in-service) in '91 cars. None prior to that. I don't think it had anything to do with how they were optioned....but it'd be interesting to see a window sticker for one.

[ajstoys63]

What about it not having the single key? It uses the standard 2 key system. I would like to change it over t the single key and also put the black power coated wheels on it... Like I said other then the paint and the obnoxious exhaust it is really tight. I also own a 1984 LTD LX with the old 5.0 V-8 since 1990. I love the Fox cars. This SSP has never had anything mounted inside. It is, with the exception of the carpet being a bit stained and the paint not being top quality, in good shape.

[FlyinTiger]

Single key was an option.

[ImEvil1]

Personally, I'd spend the extra $1500 and buy the Santa Clara car. It is pristine.

[NoDrama43]

the santa clara car is rarer as it is dark blue. and it is almost perfect. seriously...if you are going to spend 7500.00 you definitely need to look at jon's 91.

I would be very concerned about the cheapo paint job on the black car. I know what MAACO does to paint stuff and it aint good.

[ajstoys63]

Ok... I checked the picture of the blue SSP that John has but where does he live? I have to factor in transporting it here also. Is he still selling it? Thanks

[whr44]

John lives in Old Forge PA. Between Scranton and Wilkes Barre, not far from your location in Jersey. Could drive up and not worry about shipping.

[ajstoys63]

Ok... I asked him if it was still for sale so I will have to wait for his reply... I can't hold the guy off for much longer then today on the black '91... Thats why I am kinda rushing. You are right... Shipping wouldn't be an issue...

[ImEvil1]

Ok... I asked him if it was still for sale so I will have to wait for his reply... I can't hold the guy off for much longer then today on the black '91... Thats why I am kinda rushing. You are right... Shipping wouldn't be an issue...

The dealer pressuring you for an answer?

[NoDrama43]

I would tell the dealer that you will let him know if and when you want to buy the car. With a MAACO paint job it is overpriced big time. even at 7500.00

I would bet lunch he doesn't have over 5500.00 in the car.

you need to talk to John. Once you see the blue 91 he has you will know what I am talking about.

[ajstoys63]

John and I are now in communication... I hope this works out!! Thank all of you for your help. I am really looking forward to entering this dark and shadowing world of the SSP's.... Ha ha ha!! How nice is this car??? Since some of you have seen it...

Thanks, Al

[ImEvil1]

John and I are now in communication... I hope this works out!! Thank all of you for your help. I am really looking forward to entering this dark and shadowing world of the SSP's.... Ha ha ha!! How nice is this car??? Since some of you have seen it...

Thanks, Al

Good deal, and good luck. I can't believe that his car is still available; especially seeing some of what's been selling on eBay. That car is really nicely done.

[ajstoys63]

All that I can say is WOW!!! Did they miss anything when they dismantled it??? I can't beleive the detail... When was all of the work done??

[NoDrama43]

another member here restored the car. His member name here is sspgary. He lives in Canada and is very very meticulous, as you will see when you view the car.

[MOstang]

Good deal, and good luck. I can't believe that his car is still available; especially seeing some of what's been selling on eBay. That car is really nicely done.
I agree Mike...suprising John's car hasn't sold yet...great color and price!

[ajstoys63]

Hello guys... I have reveiwed all of the documentation for John's car and have decided because of the pristine condition that I am not going to purchase it. I, at this time, do not have a garage to store the vehicle in and do not want to leave it exposed to the elements so the car will start to deteriate with just a cover on it in the driveway... If I had a storage place for it I would have bought it with out hesitation. I appreciate all of his and all of you guy's help in this.

[FlyinTiger]

There is a fine line in making a car too nice. Once they pass that point, you do feel guilty exposing the hard work to the elements. Keep looking. There are deals to be had.

[NoDrama43]

i paid 60.00 a month for a 10 x 20 storage garage for that very reason. Not wanting a nice car to sit outside.

[ajstoys63]

Trust me the people who rebuilt that car did an excellent job on her... I don't want to have it sit and all of their work go to waste. I want the car nice.. I would love to have it and could have it... But they made that car above showroom and it should be treated that way. I am in the future looking into moving and having a house with a garage or pole barn to store these cars... Right now that is what holding me back from having a fleet of collectable cars.. Oh the 'Stangs that I have owned and had gave up.... Truth be told I was going to buy John's car for the sheer selfish fact to just have a brand new 1991 SSP that needs nothing.. But then I thought about the fact that I would deprive someone else of this fine mark on history... So I will find one hat is less then perfect that I can work on and if I do finnaly get the dream garage the fleet will be secure and safe from the elements... I thank you guys for the help and understanding and I truly hope to join you if I can find an acceptable speciman to join your ranks. It may be the black 1991 or another one that I may find... Time will tell... Any more for sale nearby me?

[SparkSVT]

money is tight for me too.

[ajstoys63]

Actually my friend the money is not an issue...Its leaving a beautiful car outside that someone spent many hours on to make it very special. Its like spending months on your front lawn and garden to have someone come up and throw trash on it and let there dog pee on it.... Thats wat it is all about. These gentleman spent many hours restoring this car and it wasn't to have it sit outside with the elements eating away at it... I would love someone to buy John's car that can keep it pristine for the future... Maybe I am a dreamer but that is how I feel.

[SparkSVT]

not buying because its TOO nice. Thats a new one.

[ImEvil1]

not buying because its TOO nice. Thats a new one.

If you don't have anything constructive to add, why even open your mouth?

[ajstoys63]

Well maybe if you really knew what I was about you would understand me... Sometimes you have to think outside the box... But yes because its too nice and I really appreciate the beauty in things... It can be in nature or fine works of art... This '91 is a fine work of art. Someone brought it back to its original beauty to be admired... Not for me to park it in my driveway and cover it up and let the elements eat away at it..... As for it being a new one not wanting to "buy it because its too nice" Well sometimes you have to look past the trees to see the forrest....

[stadair]

not buying because its TOO nice. Thats a new one.

I totally agree with ajstoys63. I've got two young kids at home. If I had a really nice car with a pristine, show car paint job, and it got scratched from one of their toys... I would go bonkers. My mind is more at ease with a worn paint job and tarnished interior...even though I park it indoors.

[NoDrama43]

Well maybe if you really knew what I was about you would understand me... Sometimes you have to think outside the box... But yes because its too nice and I really appreciate the beauty in things... It can be in nature or fine works of art... This '91 is a fine work of art. Someone brought it back to its original beauty to be admired... Not for me to park it in my driveway and cover it up and let the elements eat away at it..... As for it being a new one not wanting to "buy it because its too nice" Well sometimes you have to look past the trees to see the forrest....


It is a great car AJ. But only you can decide if it is something you want. Don't let the negative attitude get you down. Just keep looking till you find the car that fits the bill for you. There are plenty of nice drivers that come up periodically.

[ajstoys63]

Thank you for your understanding.... I am looking all over. I do want a SSP though. Something about the mystic of a car that was a limited usage car that I want.... I want to find an unmarked one preferably a black one and instal the black wheels with blacked out windows.. I am still working on the original one. I got him down a little more. We will see tommorow..

[NoDrama43]

Thank you for your understanding.... I am looking all over. I do want a SSP though. Something about the mystic of a car that was a limited usage car that I want.... I want to find an unmarked one preferably a black one and instal the black wheels with blacked out windows.. I am still working on the original one. I got him down a little more. We will see tommorow..

Aj how much did he come down now?

[ajstoys63]

$500.00 It was a Government car stationed out of New York..No body holes or radio mounts. They used the cell phones instead which it still has on the rear window. I am supposed to pick it up on Friday.. Then the fun begins.... Oh wait its winter time so it may have to wait a few months. I have to get the original air filter assembly and plumbing... I think CJ Pony parts said they have it for $65.00... Then the exhaust, single key system, cell phone antenae, tinted windows, black rims, carpet cleaning, door plugs, etc...

[MOstang]

AJ - Congrats on the SSP...please post up some pictures when you have an opportunity.

[stadair]

Congratulations on the new car. It sounds a bit like mine. No holes for mounting anything, anywhere. But I can only guess that mine was a government car. No records.

[ajstoys63]

All I can say is thank you for everyones support in this soon to be fun project...I am looking forward to all of my endeavers with this car.. I want to especially thank John for all of the info that he had sent me for his car... I hope that it will also find a home that is fit such a beautiful example of one of Mustangs finest....
Al

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

Keep in mind that the Single Key Locks were an Option not Standard Equipment and they Black wheels were no longer available as an Option.

Tom

[ajstoys63]

I know... The single key is not that big of a deal for me but I think the black wheels would look sharp on it.. I would keep the originals and I have an extra set of 10 hole wheels that maybe, if I can find a place, can powder coat them black and with the stainless center caps will look sharp.... I also have to address the intake and the exhaust is just a little loud. It has a BBK "X" pipe and exhaust... So I will start looking for stock parts. I am not drag racing it...

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

I love the Black Wheels too.

[ajstoys63]

Isn that your SSP?? Black wheels, black paint?? Looks sharp! I am still interested in jpargos... I like the black but his blue one is very sharp and really needs nothing... I wonder how it would look with the black wheels... Do you have any pictures of yours??

[NoDrama43]

I keep telling John I want that 91 back. I have a couple issues in the works so maybe it might happen....not really sure. I like it cause it is blue with blue interior and only has 40+k miles. If I end up with it it will just be a trailer queen like the rest of my SSP cars.

Glad you got the black car. it is nice also and I like the gt seat option the govt cars have. be real cool if there is a build sheet in it somewhere. Bernie has black wheels on his black FHP car and it is bada** looking.

[ajstoys63]

I have to ask you... Do you have a barn for all of those toys?? Do you have pictures of your fleet all restored?? And yes I would have to do the black wheels on it... Your '85 and '86 are sharp... With black wheels of course... I want to keep the originals 'cause I know it wouldn't be correct for show... But the black on black is stealthy and official looking...

[jpargo]

Al, congrats on the car...best of luck! John

[28HopUp]

Isn that your SSP?? Black wheels, black paint?? Looks sharp! I am still interested in jpargos... I like the black but his blue one is very sharp and really needs nothing... I wonder how it would look with the black wheels... Do you have any pictures of yours??


Here are a couple of pictures of my all-black 85 with painted 10-holes

http://www.mustangcollective.com/imagehosting/2774a4d272073af0.jpg

http://www.mustangcollective.com/imagehosting/2774a4ca801912f9.jpg


I know the wheels are incorrect for a 4-eye, but I have them for three reasons:

They were on the car when I bought it (but I painted them)
They clear the larger 87-up front rotors the car now sports (installed by previous owner)
Original wheels and caps are expensive, and I wouldn't use them on a daily driver


I already swapped out those incorrect seats. The clapped out exhaust has been replaced. And yes, those rear tires are beefy - 255's

[ajstoys63]

That is really sharp.... I am still going back and forht about this car... They want $7500 and they were supposed to come down more and they didn't... It is clean... I just don't know what these cars are really worth...

[NoDrama43]

I have to ask you... Do you have a barn for all of those toys?? Do you have pictures of your fleet all restored?? And yes I would have to do the black wheels on it... Your '85 and '86 are sharp... With black wheels of course... I want to keep the originals 'cause I know it wouldn't be correct for show... But the black on black is stealthy and official looking...

Al, here is the barn my cars call home.... it is still a work in progress...

[scoutdrivinrebel]

That barn is my dream.

[ajstoys63]

That truly is a dream.... I would call it home for my self... And the cars.... I like It!!! My girl would not see me for weeks.... Only for you know visits. And she would still have to pry me off the cars. That is fantastic.... Thats all I can say.

[ajstoys63]

By the way the I did no pick the car up today... She is having a rear main seal leak issue... I told the seller either the price drops or the seal has to be repaired... If you want a premium price you have to have a premium product... By the way I want to thank you all for the help that you guys have given me... Both the positive and the negative opinions... Both have helped.

[ImEvil1]

By the way the I did no pick the car up today... She is having a rear main seal leak issue... I told the seller either the price drops or the seal has to be repaired... If you want a premium price you have to have a premium product... By the way I want to thank you all for the help that you guys have given me... Both the positive and the negative opinions... Both have helped.


I wouldn't worry about the rear main too much....they all do that. It's a PITA job to fix it, though. As for the opinions...glad we helped....that's what we're here for. :yes:

[ajstoys63]

I know its not that big of a deal... I have dealt with it on some of my other 5.0 powered cars.... But I was annoyed so that is why I pushed it... I don't really mind some seapage but this puppy was leaking...

[MOstang]

:happyspin: A waive of the rally towel for that car mansion. Al, here is the barn my cars call home.... it is still a work in progress...

[scoutdrivinrebel]

I know its not that big of a deal... I have dealt with it on some of my other 5.0 powered cars.... But I was annoyed so that is why I pushed it... I don't really mind some seapage but this puppy was leaking...

Oil leaks, even small ones, drive me crazy.

[ajstoys63]

I took my '84 LTD LX's engine apart twice because of the rear main..... You are right about that... But this one after 15 minutes of idling was dripping pretty good and that drives me crazy. I told them they could have at least cleaned up the bottom of the engine a little.... We will see what happens today. They are having it checked out. Then they have to discuss it with the owner of the car.

[ajstoys63]

Well we didn't buy it... The oil pan and rear main are leaking and the seller will not repair it or come down... I feel the $7500 is too high considering what I would have to do to it. Door arm rests, center console, ash tray repairs, carpet, rear main, oil pan, lets not even start about the paint already peeling on the mouldings....I was willing to eat most of it but when I saw the oil dripping out and guys it wasn't seeping I drew the line. I have been watching and asking alot of people and everyone says its too much... His contention is "as is" He stated that he dropped the price from $8900 to $7500 and that was enough but what he doesn't understand is that $7500 was were he should have started ande then worked out a price.. My thoughts are I can buy a fully restored car for $9000 that only needs gas and a set of tags...
Now the search goes on for another acceptable car...

[MOstang]

AJ - I'm not aware of what car you're looking at, but it sounds like you made a good well thought out decision.

[ajstoys63]

I have been doing alot of research over the past 3 weeks... With all of your help. And this guy thinks he has a gold mine with his car.... The problem isn't just cosmetic there were certain things I could fix myself that he should have before tyring to sell it.. But when it idles for 15 minutes and I saw the oil dripping onto the ground that was enough.. Now I can fix it and would hvae but this guy figyred that since he dropped from his aking price to $7500 that it was all he needed to do... I told the salesman that he needed to do better. It has a Maaco paint job that is already having issues and its an automatic and not that it really bothered me but his price was just too high... He should have started at about $7500 and came down to $6200-$6500... That is about the range that car is in and that is pushing it.... Here is the car:http://www.stradacars.com/webtemplate.aspx?iid=2479519

[ImEvil1]

Sounds like you made the right call. The dealer will figure it out sooner or later.

[ajstoys63]

Actually its the owner of the car... The dealer is selling it on consignment. The dealer already fiured it out since it has been sitting there for a month and I am the only one to show up and make a viable offer on it... No one and I mean no one has made an offer due to what the owner is looking for.. He told the salesman that I am dealing with that he could put it online and sell it for $8000 to $8500 with no problem. The saleman told him that he has a cash offer on the table for $7000 and he should take it and run since people are coming only to kick the tires and not showing cash. I feel bad for this sales guy he knows the guy is being greedy but he won't back down. I think he has too much in it or someone told him it i worth more then it really is... H thinks he has the golden nugget but when in fact it is fools gold. I really like the car but I couldn't look past the leak since I was willing to go a little higher to get her... I figured he would have at least fixed her and then I would buy her....

[MOstang]

You'll find another one you really like as well and pretty soon this one will be a distant memory.

[NoDrama43]

Al,

good choice. The dealer is trying to hit his lick and the owner is obviously trying to flip the car for a buck also. Just another reason not to buy from the guy that sells cars on a regular basis. I put a number somehwere from 5500 to 6000 on the car also. The MAGM squad didn't win this time and that is a good thing. congrats to you for having the patience to see the car for what it really is.

[ajstoys63]

This is true but disappointing... I thought I would be driving it home.... But only time will tell. I just saw a white one on Ebay that was a Utah State Police car with only 20,000 miles?? Unmarked with all of its garb in it... I think the guy buys and sells them by the sound of it... Ha too was a bit high. But I watched it and no one bid or offered anything for it... My search goes on... :-(

[NoDrama43]

the white car on ebay was just recently sold by a flipper to a guy in North Carolina. He put emergency equipment in the car that was wrong for Utah but correct for NCHP, then tried to flip it himself. Guess it didn't work out so well.

[MOstang]

I just saw a white one on Ebay that was a Utah State Police car with only 20,000 miles??
I would bet it either has 120,000 or 220,000 miles. I forget the year of the car you're speaking of but maybe the miles guage is only a 5 digit variety and he's put down the amount shown vs. the actual amount driven when listing on eBay.

[ajstoys63]

I beleive it is a 1987... I was surprised to see only 20,000 miles. You are probobly right on the mileage or they only took it for coffee and donuts at the edge of the town it was stationed in... It ashame people want to rape others because of a cars heritage. I see the values slipping a little I guess it is due to the economy. Even the marked ones are dropping a little. About a year ago a small car lot in the town I live in was selling a smooth top (I think you call them, no light bar) and it was fairly clean with all of its markings from FHP. The guy wanted $12,500 for it. I didn't know much about them at that point I just looked at it and walked away. He sold it though I don't know for how much.....

[stadair]

All this talk about leaks makes me think that I got a real steal! For $3500 my only problems were a leaky heater core, locked up struts, flat A/C, dry rotted tires, and missing front sway bar bushings. Oh, and a trans that was missing a couple of bolts...

[ajstoys63]

You did get a steal... And I was willing to give this guy $7250.00 for this car... He will not go down the extra $250.00 I was going to get the leak fixed myself... I am starting to think I will give John a call and buy his car it doesn't need anything. The one I am looking at is an ex government car from some branch and it has a $300.00 Maaco paint job on it that I will have to deal with.... As well as some interior issues and the oil leak.... So yes $3500 was a deal... I can't find any of those. Oh and by the way he originally wanted $8900. Someone told him it should sell for at least $8500.... Even the consignment guy did research and told him $5500- $6500

[MOstang]

In this economy it costs more than $250 just to hang onto a car than to be flexible and reduce that much in order to make a sale. That is unless you are independently wealth or don't care if your car takes a long to time to sell.

[28HopUp]

You did get a steal... And I was willing to give this guy $7250.00 for this car... He will not go down the extra $250.00 I was going to get the leak fixed myself... I am starting to think I will give John a call and buy his car it doesn't need anything. The one I am looking at is an ex government car from some branch and it has a $300.00 Maaco paint job on it that I will have to deal with.... As well as some interior issues and the oil leak.... So yes $3500 was a deal... I can't find any of those. Oh and by the way he originally wanted $8900. Someone told him it should sell for at least $8500.... Even the consignment guy did research and told him $5500- $6500

That would be a wise move. I paid $3986 for mine (OK, it was $4K "as-is" minus the $14 of change in the ashtray - I did say it was as-is). It looked like this -

http://69.64.79.206/imagehosting/27749a8207607649.jpg

I paid slightly more than the purchase price for the body work, paint, interior, and CHP parts to have it look like this -

http://www.mustangcollective.com/imagehosting/2774a4d272011908.jpg

I have yet to touch the drivetrain, which was "restored" at one point. So I would have been money ahead had I bought John's car. Still, I have ZERO regrets about my efforts to bring this car back to life.

Hope you find a suitable car that you LOVE!

[MOstang]

Bill - I really like how your car turned out :rock:.

[NoDrama43]

... I am starting to think I will give John a call and buy his car it doesn't need anything.


I second that idea. If you wait to long John's car is going to be sold.......

[ajstoys63]

Well let me say this... You did a fantastic job on your car... I love the car in black... That is whats holding me up on John's car. I want the black wheels on it and I don't know if the blue would have the look like yours does... It just has the "G" man car look. That administrative authoritative appearance.

[28HopUp]

Well let me say this... You did a fantastic job on your car... I love the car in black...

Thanks! IMO, you could pick up a cheap set of ten-holes, sandblast/paint em black like I did, and mount them on John's blue SSP to acheive the same look. That way you'd retain the stock original wheels for its next caretaker.

[ajstoys63]

I have an extra set of 10 hole rims.... I just don't know if it would look right on the dark blue car....

[ImEvil1]

Any solid-color car looks good with black wheels and tint, IMHO. Not many "G Men" drove SSP Mustangs. :)

[MOstang]

Any solid-color car looks good with black wheels and tint, IMHO. Not many "G Men" drove SSP Mustangs. :)

:thumbsup: I agree the solid color ones look great w/black wheels.

[ssp91ssp]

I think the black wheels on John's car would look killer ! I also think they would make the blue stand out !!!
Only one way to find out ...grab some cash and call him up ...
If i sell my 67 Fastback ...John's car will be Sooooooooold ...to me!!!

ssp91ssp
hector

[FHP813]

I agree on the black wheels.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/berno101/fhp%20813/fc58-2-1.jpg

[scoutdrivinrebel]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/berno101/fhp%20813/fc58-2-1.jpg

Man that coupe looks good. :D

[FHP813]

Thank you. :)

[ajstoys63]

But it is black... And the black on black does look sharp... And I know the "G" men drove the big sedans... Well actually they drive anything they can get, sedans, coupes, S.U.V.'s, etc.....

[ssp91ssp]

WoW !!!! Sweet coupe !!
ssp91ssp

[ajstoys63]

Your not kidding... An awful lot of work but what a beautiful payout. Both cars!!

[ajstoys63]

Well its back on again... The guy now wants to accept my offer as long as I can get the transaction completed by Wednesday evening.... What a week to try to rush around. We shall see if I can get this accomplished by then. I will keep you guys up to date.

[NoDrama43]

I would offer him 6500.00. I bet he takes it.

[ajstoys63]

The lowest he will go is $7,000.00 And then of course I will have to start the re-constuction.... Or fun. I have not decided yet. I am intrigued.

[ajstoys63]

Ok guys.. I picked up the '91 ex-government whatever car today... It will be time for the games to begin. I drove it home in this crappy weather today. It ran great. The speedometer is off 5 m.p.h. I will start making a list of the minor pieces I will need to get for her but she ran well. I have to find the center console cover under and around the e-brake handle as well as do some repairs to the stupid map pockets on the doors... By the way guys what color gray is that interior considered?? I have seen that the pockets can be purchased as kits...

[ImEvil1]

Congrats...and it's titanium for '91.

[ajstoys63]

Ok because looking at those door map pockets are really sad and I would like to start with them and the center console and ash tray repair... Oh and f course the carpet, new spare tire that holds air, trunk lock needs to be installed correctly, etc., etc.... Where is a good place to get the door pockets?? I really wouldn't care if they weren't there but I think the holes would be unsightly. I have to repair the door armrests also.. plugs are missing and they look sad to... Basically just a little worn here and there. Can the speedometers be recalibrated?? By the way thanks..

[NoDrama43]

congrates on the purchase !! Nothing like a late Christmas present for yourself. :) It will make a nice car once you get the little stuff fixed.

[MOstang]

Congrats on your acquisition AJ.

[jpargo]

AJ, Congrats on your new SSP!

[ajstoys63]

Thank you everyone.. I look forward to the challenge. Now to find all of the parts should be entertaining.

[sspanthony]

Congrats on your new purchase and you will have so get some pics up soon!

[ajstoys63]

I uploaded a picture from the day I picked up the car.. I will update it when I get her all cleaned up..

[ajstoys63]

Where is the best place to get the interior parts that I need/want for this car??

[NoDrama43]

1. Ford Motor Company

2. Fox Mustang Restoration

3. 5.0 Resto

4. CJ Pony Parts

5. Ebay

6. Craigslist

7. other forum members

8. swap meets

disclaimer ........ no specific order intended.

[ssp91ssp]

AJ, you pulled the trigger ! congrats ! enjoy the car ..
ssp91ssp

[ajstoys63]

Well I know the first thing I have to get is a front tag holder... You know us Jersey folk have to have our front tag proudly displayed. Also thank you for the info. I already touched base with CJ Pony parts to get the o.e.m. air filter assembly.

[NoDrama43]

I usually try Ford Motor Company first. There are many parts still available from the dealer. I ordered a bunch of stuff one time from 5.0 Resto and most of it came in original Ford packaging. I checked with the dealer and found i could have bought it all there and some of it was cheaper. Lesson learned....

[stadair]

I usually try Ford Motor Company first. There are many parts still available from the dealer. I ordered a bunch of stuff one time from 5.0 Resto and most of it came in original Ford packaging. I checked with the dealer and found i could have bought it all there and some of it was cheaper. Lesson learned....

I agree. Check your local Ford Dealer for pricing.

I was looking for the plastic door panel anchors. Couldn't find them at my local Murray's Auto Parts. Walked next door to the Ford Dealer. Not only did they have them, but the parts guy just gave me the dozen I needed. No charge! Glad I didn't order any through a catalog.

[ajstoys63]

Well I ordered the tag bracket... $25.00 I am making a list for all of the interior stuff and I would like to put the exhaust back to stock as well. It has a brand new "X" pipe ad exhaust but it really is a little loud at 55-60 mph. I can't stand that so I will have to change it over. I found a new old stock "H" pipe for $300 on E-bay and I think I can find the factory exhaust too...

[mac88chp]

Congrats on your purchase. Check the rear-end gearing as it may have been changed and is what is causing your speedo reading to be off. Seems consistent that it was owing to your intake and exhaust not being stock either (the three most popular areas to mod with these cars by the masses).

[ajstoys63]

You may be right... My friend was doing 55 and I was doing about 62... I could tell I wasn't going that fast, it may have been everyone flying past me, I really want to put the car back to stock. I can't stand the drone on the highway with this exhaust and I have no plans on racing it so that is why I will look into stock exhaust and intake... I may put a K&N filter in it but that will be the extent of its go faster stuff.... Don't get me wrong I like to drive fast but I just want this car correct.

[NoDrama43]

Well I ordered the tag bracket... $25.00 I am making a list for all of the interior stuff and I would like to put the exhaust back to stock as well. It has a brand new "X" pipe ad exhaust but it really is a little loud at 55-60 mph. I can't stand that so I will have to change it over. I found a new old stock "H" pipe for $300 on E-bay and I think I can find the factory exhaust too...

If you find the stock exhaust and they have several send me a PM. I am needing stock exhaust for several cars.

[ajstoys63]

I assume you are looking for the exhaust systems not the "H" pipe?? I am trying to track them down on-line and I have some friends at Ford that are looking also for me. The tough thing is the shipping costs. But I am sure it will work out. I will be sure to let you know what and where I find them.. No problems my friend!!

[mustangretriever]

I assume you are looking for the exhaust systems not the "H" pipe?? I am trying to track them down on-line and I have some friends at Ford that are looking also for me. The tough thing is the shipping costs. But I am sure it will work out. I will be sure to let you know what and where I find them.. No problems my friend!!

Wow, good luck finding stock exhaust, even used they're hard to come by!

[ssp91ssp]

Aj,
The people i work for also own a Ford dealership that's been around for a while ... I will ask if they have any of the parts you need .

ssp91ssp
Hector
http://s558.photobucket.com/albums/ss28/alvar4/

[ajstoys63]

Thank you..I really appreciate all of the support from this gang. Yes the exhaust is being a challenge. I found 2 factory "H" pipes on Ebay... One not to far from me and the other up north somewhere. My '91 has an aftermarket BBK "X" pipe and aftermarket cat-back system. It is very raspy and I really don't feel the power gain. The car is a little obnoxious on the highway at 55 m.p.h. I have been looking everywhere for the rest of it. I really want it back to stock. I will tell you another tough one that I can't find is a stock mass air roller cam for a 5.0. I need it for my other car. I made the mistake when rebuilding the engine of putting the Ford Racing cam that I was told was near stock and it is B.S. the car doesn't idle smooth like I want it too. I converted the '84 LTD LX over to mass air S.E.F.I. but the cam is just too rough for my liking. The car also has a '91 Mustang engine in her. I have had her since 1990 and has been through alot with me. I don't race these cars I just like them to run well... Thanks again.

[ssp91ssp]

Aj ,
I'm into Drag racing , i have a 0 mile fac roller cam and would trade you for the Motorsport cam you have ...
Yes , my cam is brand new !

did you view my cars ???? we love fox cars ... !!
ssp91ssp
Hector

[ajstoys63]

That would be fine with me.... I will give you the info on the cam. It has been in the engine for about 3 years but the car has not been driven only idled since it was rebuilt. Thats how I know its idle is just too rough for me. I can make arrangements to pull it out as soon as the weather breaks a little. It is the lowest FordRacing cam you can get but too much for my stock needs. I wanted a stock cam because I changed it over from C.F.I. to S.E.F.I. and that is why I ended up with this cam from Summit Racing. I was told by the sales rep that this is like a stock cam... Well guess again.. Ha ha ha!! No I didn't see you cars. Where are the the pictures???
Thanks, Al

[NoDrama43]

anyone know where I can get a bone stock 1985 5.0 camshaft? I need one for the 85 texas car.

[ajstoys63]

This is getting fun... I may have one of those. I will check to see If I still have one with my old stuff... Did you wear it out?? Roller cams are ussualy indestructable. Thats what I was told anyway. Unless someone changed your too... I know that feeling... I took a stock '85 cam ot of the engine that I put into my '84 when I changed the fuel injection system over.. I will check..

[NoDrama43]

The engine in my 85 is not the original and I believe the motor is actually a later year hence EFI. I do not know for sure if I need to change the cam for use with a carb or not.

[ajstoys63]

You may be ok with your current cam. My problem was that the 84's C.F.I. (LTD LX Automatic's came with only C.F.I. no 4 BBL.) was not happy with any changes. It could not take any cam changes without throwing the computer into a frenzy, and it did. Then when I put the newer roller cam engine in her it went crazy and the carb cam was the closest I could get to stock... Now since I installed the port injection I had to re-cam it and I didn't have a mass air cam so I called the good people at Summit and the Ford Racing cam was what was suggested however it is a bit much for what I wanted. But trying to find a stock cam has been alsmost as much fun as trying to find stock exhaust for the '91.... Oh the challenges of older cars.

[maxwedge5281]

interesting read with comments about the blue santa clara ssp. especially, 13 years since the thread was started. i bought the car for a second time a couple of weeks ago. it is still in excellent condition with 71500 miles. first time i owned the car i replaced the black 10 hole wheels with a refinished set of anodized wheels. i still have the ten hole black wheels in storage. previous owner put on larger rear wheels and had windows tinted. i just added a nos set of blue hoses.

[maxwedge5281]

trying to add a pic of the car today...13 years later.

[maxwedge5281]

interior is still like new.

[28HopUp]

That's great!

[MOstang]

It's looking good. :cool: