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ImEvil1
02-24-2010, 10:11 PM
Looks like a FL car (probably a former city or county unit), but oh my. Vinyl seats and "factory" 4 wheel discs?? :No no:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUPER-RARE-COUPE-5-0-FACTORY-4-WHEELS-DISC-BRAKES_W0QQitemZ220557894514QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item335a466372

http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BmMwVTw!2k~$(KGrHqUH-C8Etsdh6pjpBLe)V,mI8g~~_35.JPG

88stang
02-25-2010, 03:06 AM
It was problably modified, at some point and the current owner doesent know about it? That would be my guess. :yes:

ssp91ssp
02-25-2010, 09:22 AM
Huh.......
Almost as bad as the CL listing on a SSP that stated all ssp's have salvaged
titles ...
It's still a clean little car .

ssp91ssp

ImEvil1
02-25-2010, 10:23 AM
Depends on your definition of "clean". ;)

It's got the wrong interior (vinyl), it's missing the certified speedo, and the engine compartment is a complete mess.

NoDrama43
02-25-2010, 10:41 AM
I can't read the door tag info to see the interior code. I only know of one aero SSP with original vinyl and that is Don Hawkins 90 car.

does the seller even know it is an SSP car? I see the 6 digit DSO number but he doesn't talk about it in his auction.

ImEvil1
02-25-2010, 10:45 AM
Interior code is FA.

28HopUp
02-25-2010, 11:08 AM
Here is a link I found on ORG to a better picture of the VIN sticker -

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt278/realmuscle1/1991FordMustang50/100_1128.jpg

The 6-digit DSO is interesting, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's an SSP - just a fleet order car, right? I'd be curious to hear how the seller documented that his 91 has factory rear disk brakes. The 93 Cobra was the first year for the 4-lug rear disk brakes (which my SSP has, albeit not 'factory-stalled'). Could this have been a test-mule from Ford?

ImEvil1
02-25-2010, 11:17 AM
Here is a link I found on ORG to a better picture of the VIN sticker -

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt278/realmuscle1/1991FordMustang50/100_1128.jpg

The 6-digit DSO is interesting, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's an SSP - just a fleet order car, right? I'd be curious to hear how the seller documented that his 91 has factory rear disk brakes. The 93 Cobra was the first year for the 4-lug rear disk brakes (which my SSP has, albeit not 'factory-stalled'). Could this have been a test-mule from Ford?

Bill,

Correct...any special-ordered car (fleet, export, cars that were sent to Saleen, etc). It looks to me like the panel where the remote trunk release would have been has been replaced. I'd bet it's an SSP (Carfax would probably help ID it for sure).

IMHO, there's no way that those brakes were on the car from the factory, and the seller is just making claims that can't be backed up.

Charlie
02-25-2010, 11:41 AM
Looks like water or some stain on the carpet in the trunk too. The engine compartment looks awful to me

86NeSSP
02-25-2010, 12:44 PM
Looks like a few interior items were painted/dyed from BLUE... Look at the driver side when the door is open the edge of the driver side interior 1/4 panel BLUE! Also you can see blue in the gap between the parking brake handle and the center console. Also the driver side front corner of the center arm rest looks as tho a patch of dye/paint came off and it looks blue too.

That car looks like it has some rust in the A-pillar What are the little dime size black dots on the bottom door jam? Looks like a SSBC rear brake kit was installed on it. T-bird master and the adjustable proportioning valve on the passenger side. Lots of rusty things under the hood. I guess if you're close to sea water that can happen quick.

mac88chp
02-25-2010, 01:41 PM
I can't read the door tag info to see the interior code. I only know of one aero SSP with original vinyl and that is Don Hawkins 90 car.The '88 USAF U-2 SSP has an original vinyl interior too.

http://www.sspmustang.org/images/Keith_USAF_Mustang.jpg

ssp91ssp
02-25-2010, 04:44 PM
Depends on your definition of "clean". ;)

It's got the wrong interior (vinyl), it's missing the certified speedo, and the engine compartment is a complete mess.

that's what i get for only looking at the post pic....
I change my mind on that statement ! I know one thing , those brakes are NOT original !

ssp91ssp

NoDrama43
02-25-2010, 06:20 PM
The '88 USAF U-2 SSP has an original vinyl interior too.




Was Keith working that day or does he wear a uniform to the car show??

MOstang
02-25-2010, 06:21 PM
It was problably modified, at some point and the current owner doesent know about it? That would be my guess. :yes:

That is one of those things that really bothers me with some sellers. They play a game and act "dumb" about what they have. End up making claims that have no basis and are clearly false. Then it just becomes a convenient situation where they plead ignorance. But really if you are that ignorant about what you have, why not just stick to what you know so you don't run the risk of misleading someone in such an important transaction.

mac88chp
02-25-2010, 06:34 PM
Was Keith working that day or does he wear a uniform to the car show??I recall his department had entries in the in-service division and they may also have been doing recruiting that year. That's the only show I've ever seen him with a uniform on.

Rhino
02-25-2010, 08:01 PM
Love Keith's car. I think it's the only U-2 known to exist, right? There may be more out there, but the only one that has surfaced. Cool history.

mac88chp
02-25-2010, 09:00 PM
Love Keith's car. I think it's the only U-2 known to exist, right? There may be more out there, but the only one that has surfaced. Cool history.Yep, so far it's 1 of 1. Keep checking out all those Mustang coupes you spot on the streets, in fields, barns, etc. and maybe another one will be uncovered someday.

Texaspony87
02-26-2010, 01:11 AM
Just want to echo Michael's comments. I looked at the U2 car when it was still here in Michigan for Charles R. The original owner was an x- Air Force fellow that sold it to him and he restored it. The seats were indeed vinyl.