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jdb84
08-10-2010, 12:01 AM
A buddy of mine is thinkin about sellin his 91 SSP. It was a NC car, Its dark red with black interior, Still has the holes in the dash and console. The DSO number is 22 0654.Also still has the buck tags, He can put the car back to stock, right now it has a 2.5 inch hood, 373 gear, and exhaust. The interior is super clean, the outside needs paint. I can get some pics up tomorrow. Some one backed in to the driver door, its not to bad. Im gonna drop it off tomorrow to get the door fixed at a dent removell place. Just tryin to see what it might be worth, I know its a bad time to try to sell one but i told him i would post it. Thanks

MOstang
08-10-2010, 06:58 PM
What leads you to think it's an NCSHP SSP? Post up some pics of it. As a general rule of thumb the NCSHP did not put holes in the upper dash if that's one of the areas you are referring to. Does it still have the NCSHP FAS or PIN stickers on the left side of the dash? Personally I stray away from the value discussion in the open on a forum like this as everyone has their own opinion of these things and at the end of the day it's all about what someone is willing to sell for and buy for.

jdb84
08-10-2010, 07:03 PM
the buck tags and dos numbers came back as the NC. it also has a number painted in the drive door jam? You can see where there was a sticker on the left side of the dash, the number painted in the jam is 2-12-320

NoDrama43
08-10-2010, 07:13 PM
south carolina car.

jdb84
08-10-2010, 07:34 PM
I thought that the 22 in the DSO number was Charlotte??

MOstang
08-10-2010, 07:47 PM
the buck tags and dos numbers came back as the NC. it also has a number painted in the drive door jam? You can see where there was a sticker on the left side of the dash, the number painted in the jam is 2-12-320
I authored an NCSHP SSP Mustang History & Restoration Guidebook late last year. I'm not aware of the NCSHP having a number like that in the particular location indicated, but anything is possible. Do you have any paperwork that ties it back to the NCSHP or photos of the Buck Tags? The NCSHP affixed two (2) different identifiable labels to their SSP Mustangs. The FAS, or Fixed Asset System, sticker stated "Property of N.C. Department of Crime Control and Public Safety". It is a silver label with black type and a unique number (typically beginning with number seven (7) and a six (6) digit number) with "- Do Not Remove-" underneath. The FAS began in the late 1970's and can be found on the driver side door inside the front jamb on left hand side of the plastic dash. Sometimes the FAS number printed on a label and affixed to map light too.

The PIN Number, which is not related to the VIN or FAS numbers, is four (4) digits and is believed to correspond to vehicle number on a particular contract (i.e. 0112 equals 112th vehicle on the 1990 order). It can be found adjacent to the inside of the driver's side door jamb on the left hand side of the plastic dash. It may be typed on a white or pink paper sticker with the North Carolina state seal, or written in marker or crayon. In one known instance it was found on a faded blue plastic label located in the driver side windshield border with the year followed by the PIN Number. The PIN number was the preferred way of tracking specific vehicles and their corresponding Trooper and license plate number.

jdb84
08-10-2010, 10:25 PM
There is a spot on the side of the dash where a sticker once was. The car has no map light there is a big round light there. I tryed to get all the numbers off the buck tags but you cant really see the bottom one. Does the DSO number in the door tell me anything?

Unmrkd
08-10-2010, 10:59 PM
south carolina car.

I vote South Carolina as well. Up until 1993 the SCHP was a division of the Highway Dept. The designation 2-12-320 breaks out as 2 = Highway Dept, 12= Mustang 320 = 320th vehicle that year. The 319th and 321st could have been a snow plow or Chevy truck or another Mustang or whatever.

The sticker on the side of the dash was a air pressure warning decal.

Is the paint code "W 2813" on the door sticker and BUC tag?

jdb84
08-11-2010, 12:34 AM
The paint code is EL which is Wild Strawberry. The lower buck tags is very hard to read. all i can make out it NC/police and before that is some numbers which i cant make out. I really dont want to have to pull them off but i think thats the only way to read them other them pullin off the front bumper.

jdb84
08-11-2010, 02:30 AM
The owner of the car said that if some one want to trade for a NON ssp car he would swap. He is just lookin for somthing to play with and im tryin to keep him from hackin up this car. So if anyone has a coupe that wants a SSP car let me know. thanks

ssp91ssp
08-11-2010, 08:42 AM
That car sounds familiar ????
Was the owner a member on here for a very short period ???

jdb84
08-11-2010, 12:34 PM
No i dont think so, He would care less about it being a SSP car. And the guy he got it from was another buddy of mine and he thought Its was a FHP car.

jdb84
08-12-2010, 04:48 PM
Now he just wants to sell it to finish up his other car.. $3800 is the bottom $$.

Buz
08-15-2010, 08:56 AM
The designation 2-12-320 breaks out as 2 = Highway Dept, 12= Mustang 320 = 320th vehicle that year.

I don't think that is quite right. I started going to the SC surplus auctions way back about 1987 when they still had them on Shop Rd. in Columbia. When you bought a car back then you had to go in the office, pay for the car, get the title and also sign off on the book where the car was listed in inventory so that they had a record of when and where the car was removed from inventory.

All the various makes of vehicles had a designation and if I remember correctly, Fords were a 2, the 2 door bodystyle was a 12 and the 320 would have been the 320th 2 door sedan they purchased. I remember signing off on one I bought and took the time to flip back through the book and they had records for cars back into the 1950's, showing when they had been purchased and when they were sold.

Everything changed when they broke apart the DHPT (Department of Highways and Public Transportation) about 1996. The sales eventually moved to Boston Ave. and the Highway Patrol cars just became part of the state fleet cars, and many of the old record keeping ways disappeared. Wouldn't it be nice to get your hands on some of those old books today.

Unmrkd
08-15-2010, 06:02 PM
Getting your hands on that kind of documentation would be outstanding. The info that I passed on was provided to me by a now retired Trooper. Trying to find out any information on the South Carolina Mustangs has consistantly been a dead end situation for me.:headscratch:

If anyone has reliable/verifiable information (history, assignment, equipment etc.) please share it.:yes:

jdb84
08-17-2010, 02:35 PM
I got the car from him a couple days ago, think i gonna pull it apart and have it repainted. Just make it a nice car again. thanks for all the help.

28HopUp
08-17-2010, 02:58 PM
Congrats on the purchase! Post up some pics when you can (we're all a bunch of SSP picture whores).

:)

jdb84
08-17-2010, 09:58 PM
Here are some pics of it now, not sure if im leave the hood or go with a stock one.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Justin84/SDC10239.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Justin84/SDC10238.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Justin84/SDC10246.jpg

ABN2060
08-18-2010, 02:54 AM
Love how those rims look on a notch. Are they 4 or 5 lug? Cant tell from the pics.

MOstang
08-18-2010, 07:12 AM
I like the color. Stock hood for sure...no question. :exactly:

jdb84
08-18-2010, 12:41 PM
They are 5 lug, Im gonna have to replace the driver door on it. Its beat up pretty bad.