1990 Santa Clara (Sheriffs Car?)

[Charlie]

I think this could be rare but dont know

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-MUSTANG-1990-lx-5-0-coupe-SSP-/260778061360?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cb7956e30#ht_500wt_1182

[28HopUp]

That car seems familiar. I saw elsewhere that a member there is bidding on it.

[ssp91ssp]

That car seems familiar. I saw elsewhere that a member there is bidding on it.

The comment about bidding on it was deleted ..
Is this car vin # related to JPARGO's old santa clara ssp??

[28HopUp]

Just to CLARA-fy (get it?:D), this one on Ebay is not JPARGO's old car, but I wonder how close the VIN's are?

(It's hard to speculate why that post was deleted - no biggie!)

[mac88chp]

A point of clarification is needed here - the commonly referred to "Santa Clara" unmarked SSPs were indeed owned by Santa Clara County but they were used by investigators in the District Attorney office and were not SO units. All the the Mustangs used by the Sheriff in that county were marked traffic units like the one pictured below:

http://images22.fotki.com/v761/photos/4/438439/1955817/SCSO-vi.jpg

[ssp91ssp]

A point of clarification is needed here - the commonly referred to "Santa Clara" unmarked SSPs were indeed owned by Santa Clara County but they were used by investigators in the District Attorney office and were not SO units. All the the Mustangs used by the Sheriff in that county were marked traffic units like the one pictured below:

http://images22.fotki.com/v761/photos/4/438439/1955817/SCSO-vi.jpg

Mike,
Being semi new to the ssp world I'm a bit confused....
So these 2 ssp's in chat here were in fact marked ??? Thx

[NoDrama43]

the blue car on ebay is a 1990 and was used by the district attorneys office. It was a "pool" car and that is why the miles are as low as they are.

JPargo's car is/was a 1991 and was also a "pool car" hence the low miles.

My red 1991 Santa Clara car was assigned to one invesstigator it's entire service life.

the pool cars were/could be used by anyone whose regular car was down etc.

they had NO lights except for a red 5 inch light that flipped down on the passenger visor side.

siren mounted in glove box that had the rear of it cut out.

ONE toggle switch on dash surround that turned on the siren .

NO spotlights

NO antenna. they used the factory ford location with a "styco" setup.

Micor single tier radio mounted in the dash under the factory radio.

[ssp91ssp]

Thanks ...Jim

So would you say that calling them Sheriff's cars ....IS WRONG in this case?

[NoDrama43]

the car for sale is a Santa Clara County car. Purchased by the county for county use, assigned to the county district attorney's office, not the sheriffs department. Not used for patrol. it was a pool car.

used today by a records clerk
used tomorrow by a case investigator
used next week by a secretary
used the next day by a mail clerk

years ago, before the car went to auction I spoke with the fleet manager who confirmed this about several of the remaining low mileage cars that were still sitting in their lot.

[Hartge330Ci]

That is correct. My better half is a Deputy with the SO and she called the fleet manager. It is a DA pool car. Not a SO Patrol car. I am interested in the car, but for what it is the current price seems high already. There is also some info it was repaired post a fire/tc. No details though.

[NoDrama43]

Welcome to the site ! :)

[ssp91ssp]

Thanks for the clarification...Jim ;)

Welcome to the site, Hartage330Ci and thanks for the info.

[28HopUp]

Thanks for the add'l input on this SSP. It's still an interesting vehicle. :)

That is correct. My better half is a Deputy with the SO and she called the fleet manager. It is a DA pool car. Not a SO Patrol car. I am interested in the car, but for what it is the current price seems high already. There is also some info it was repaired post a fire/tc. No details though.


Welcome to the forum! Question - Does the fleet manager that your better half spoke with have any historical records about this particular car?

[GSPI]

Yep, welcome aboard Hartge330Ci! Thanks for the information.

[Hartge330Ci]

I am working on finding out more info today.

[mac88chp]

I am working on finding out more info today.Welcome aboard!

I'd sure like to find out more about the SO marked units too. If you can, see if there are any records, info. etc. about those still available.

[Hartge330Ci]

I'll see what I can do for sure.

[Hartge330Ci]

Wasn't able to get anymore info yesterday, but she's trying again today. I saw that someone else from sspmustangs.org is trying to bid on the car and I wanted to post there that I was interested, but so far the moderators haven't approved my account (4 days later that is...), so no way to let people over there know I am interested. Hope the price doesn't skyrocket. We would like to have the car.

[28HopUp]

Thanks for the update. Were some bids retracted on that ebay auction? I thought the bidding had been higher. Good luck on the auction!

[ImEvil1]

Wasn't able to get anymore info yesterday, but she's trying again today. I saw that someone else from sspmustangs.org is trying to bid on the car and I wanted to post there that I was interested, but so far the moderators haven't approved my account (4 days later that is...), so no way to let people over there know I am interested. Hope the price doesn't skyrocket. We would like to have the car.

Good luck on the bidding....glad to have you here.

[Hartge330Ci]

I found out that there were a total of 13 Mustangs the County owned. Some were DA Pool Cars or DA Investigator cars, others were Patrol Units. The only way to look up info is if you have the VIN number of the vehicle, but it does look like they have decent records if you can give them the info to look it up by. I am also told that none of the DA cars had any emergency vehicle equipment other than a radio. If someone knows otherwise, I would love to know. It does look like someone retracted a bid, as the car was already at $6900 and now it's back at $45.., not sure why.

[ImEvil1]

I found out that there were a total of 13 Mustangs the County owned. Some were DA Pool Cars or DA Investigator cars, others were Patrol Units. The only way to look up info is if you have the VIN number of the vehicle, but it does look like they have decent records if you can give them the info to look it up by. I am also told that none of the DA cars had any emergency vehicle equipment other than a radio. If someone knows otherwise, I would love to know. It does look like someone retracted a bid, as the car was already at $6900 and now it's back at $45.., not sure why.

Jim's (NoDrama) post mentions the lights...hot-shoe type from a manufacturer in CA. I can't remember the name.

We did alot of research on them 6 or 7 years ago when he owned that car.

[mac88chp]

I found out that there were a total of 13 Mustangs the County owned. Some were DA Pool Cars or DA Investigator cars, others were Patrol Units. The only way to look up info is if you have the VIN number of the vehicle, but it does look like they have decent records if you can give them the info to look it up by.Thanks for getting that info. Did they say which model years those Mustangs were? All 1990s? The list of 19 consecutive VINs that this car falls into might be a good starting point to look up for more info:

1FACP40E1LF201845
1FACP40E3LF201846
1FACP40E5LF201847
1FACP40E7LF201848
1FACP40E9LF201849
1FACP40E5LF201850
1FACP40E7LF201851
1FACP40E9LF201852
1FACP40E0LF201853
1FACP40E2LF201854
1FACP40E4LF201855 = 720133 Santa Clara County #90132 (DA "pool car")
1FACP40E6LF201856
1FACP40E8LF201857
1FACP40EXLF201858
1FACP40E1LF201859
1FACP40E8LF201860
1FACP40EXLF201861
1FACP40E1LF201862
1FACP40E3LF201863

[Hartge330Ci]

That's probably a good starting point. I am not sure why they would say there were no lights in the car....? I don't know how accurate the records are when it comes to equipment. Along those lines, there were also no details on the fire/tc info. Probably pretty minor though, since they continued using the car afterwards. Wish I had more info on it.

[NoDrama43]

I spoke to the investigator that was assigned to the Santa Clara Car for the entire time it was in service. He advised of the hot shoe light. I spoke with the manufacturer of the hot shoe lamp. He stated he sold them to the district attorneys office.

The toggle switch to turn on the emergency equipment was still in the car and can be seen in this picture. It is directly above the trunk release button.

[Hartge330Ci]

That's good info to have. I wonder of they had some that had the light and some that didn't. Do you still have contact with that investigator?

[NoDrama43]

no I do not.

[28HopUp]

That's a nice looking car Jim. What ever happened to it?

[NoDrama43]

I have no idea where it ever ended up. The last I heard it is in Florida with all kinds of BS lights and other equipment in it.

I would have kept it but I wanted my collection to be all State Police agency cars which is what I have now.

it was a very very nice car. Only had 103k on it, 98% original paint, mint interior, quarter windows etc.

[Hartge330Ci]

So I bought it..... now I just need to figure out how to get it home.....

[ImEvil1]

So I bought it..... now I just need to figure out how to get it home.....

Congrats. Shipping is going to be steep right now with fuel prices being so high.

[ssp91ssp]

So I bought it..... now I just need to figure out how to get it home.....

Congrats!
Give Joan a call for a quote..812/889-3542
I used her for my Oregon ssp transport which was 2300 miles and got great service !! I only wish I had used her for my other ssp's.. and saved some cash

Mention my name or Lane from over at ORG...
hope this helps some.

[28HopUp]

So I bought it..... now I just need to figure out how to get it home.....

Congratulations on the new SSP! I hope the purchase and transport goes well for you.

[MOstang]

Congrats! Guessing a cross country driving trip would cost alot too, but those road trips sure are fun!

[CNTLOSE]

Congrats! Guessing a cross country driving trip would cost alot too, but those road trips sure are fun!

Yes they are!

[Hartge330Ci]

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of Joan! She's on her way back to Cali......

[GSPI]

Very cool and exciting to see it heading back to you!

[MOstang]

Always a fun time...congrats and I'm sure you can't wait for it to arrive.

[ssp91ssp]

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of Joan! She's on her way back to Cali......

NP!! That's what we are here for...;)
I bet you can't wait to get her home. Congrats!

[gixxer1]

So I bought it..... now I just need to figure out how to get it home.....

Congrats!

Hopefully you can track down all the history on it.
Thats allot of fun as i found out with mine.

[mac88chp]

Big congrats!

Now that it's going to be a local car again, you oughta bring it to the VMOA Mustang Show in Cupertino next month. :)

http://vintagemustang.org/CarShow/carshow.htm

[USPS SSP]

I bought the car from Eric Seward in Washington after it came out of service. It is a nice straight solid car but has a Earl Schieb / MAACO type paint job on it. Did the seller tell you he put 3:55 gears in it ? Also check his ebay feedback he recently sold heads and an intake too. My guess is he stripped the performance items off the car before selling it.

[Renegade3]

Congrats!

[Hartge330Ci]

You are correct. Looks like he put it back to stock. Fine with me, let's just hope he did a good job......

[Hartge330Ci]

Here it is washed and waxed. It is currently in Los Gatos at my girlfriends house (Santa Clara Deputy). I will pick it up this weekend.

[ImEvil1]

Looks good....

[mac88chp]

Very, very nice. You definitely have to bring that one out to a show soon. :cool:

[86NeSSP]

That is a very nice looking SSP... Congrats on bringing it back to Cali.

[MOstang]

Nice...I like that color. :cool:

[Hartge330Ci]

Got her home on Saturday. Runs good, but needs work. I will take some pictures over my days off this week and begin investigating to see if I can find left over wires, etc..... I already saw what looks to be an antenna wire at the top middle of the rear window.

[Hartge330Ci]

Well,
looks like I am in trouble. Car failed the visual smog inspection. A number of vacuum hoses are missing, the EGR does not work, the timing is retarded, and some wiring appears to be modified. I wouldn't even know where to start. Anyone know of a good Mustang mechanic in my area (Santa Maria, CA)?

[BADSGT]

Hi guys, the marked SSP that you guys have shown is actually my car 90727. This car was assigned to the Sheriff's Department, and assigned to the town of Cupertino as one of two traffic cars. I have owned the car since 2004. While it started out with those stripes, I have in service pictures of the car, with just a star on the doors and a magnetic sign that said Cupertino. My car is White, AOD with a Blue interior. Radio Delete and siren holes in the front bumper. It has dual spots. I did also owned 90131. Red AOD, Grey interior. Similar to JD's. Mine also had the Hot Shoe on the Passenger side visor. It wandered around New Jersey, and last I knew it was heading West.

Stu

90131 Sold
90727
FHP0013 Sold
FHP1663

[mac88chp]

Hi guys, the marked SSP that you guys have shown is actually my car 90727. This car was assigned to the Sheriff's Department, and assigned to the town of Cupertino as one of two traffic cars. I have owned the car since 2004. While it started out with those stripes, I have in service pictures of the car, with just a star on the doors and a magnetic sign that said Cupertino. My car is White, AOD with a Blue interior. Radio Delete and siren holes in the front bumper. It has dual spots. I did also owned 90131. Red AOD, Grey interior. Similar to JD's. Mine also had the Hot Shoe on the Passenger side visor. It wandered around New Jersey, and last I knew it was heading West.

Stu

90131 Sold
90727
FHP0013 Sold
FHP1663Wow, those cars really did find their way far from "home." Thanks for the info, I remember seeing many of the marked cars when I lived in that county and I'd sure like to see any photos, in-service and current, that you have. Can you post some up?

[MOstang]

I'd sure like to see any photos, in-service and current, that you have. Can you post some up?

+1...post up some pics when you have an opportunity.