CHP E-plate ranges

[FoxChassis]

Do we know what they are for each year?

Sam: I've seen you post some of them in various threads. Have you done them all, or do you have that info?

Any one else?

If everyone else knows what they are I don't and I'd like to get them all in one place. Thanks.

EDIT:

Plate Ranges Found So Far:
1982 = E870201 - E870600
1984 = E862632 - E862837
1985 = E408302 - E408445
1986 = E413765 - E413852
1987 = E422886 - E423060
1988 = E432914 - E433085
1989 = E433142 - E433150 and E435101 - E435300
1990 = E389203 - E389583 (plus E382378)
1991 = unknown
1992 = E895204 - E895250 and E389028 - E389189
1993 = E881502 - E881648 and E895252 - E895426

[93chipper]

they vary some bounce back and forth some are unfound 88s went in to the 1600s 89 started in 5200s and went to 5440s i believe may be till 5460s

[John10608]

My 1992 plate is 895201 ( Antelope Valley )
Drove a 91 or 92 in Stockton plate # 389522 and also a 90 I believe ( has black wheels ) plate # 435235

I have photos of them here.

The 2 from Stockton came out of the Sacto Motor Services Bldg.
My car or the SoCal cars came out of the SoCal ( Torrence ) Motor Services Bldg. May be why the different plate variations.

They got a pile of plates form DMV from 2 different locations during the same time. The only way to figure this out I think, is to work cars from SoCal areas, and work cars from NorCal areas.

I think the plate pattern will fall in place that way.
They would do a run of Muatangs, pull plates from the pile.
Then do a run of Sedans, pull plates form the same pile, so by the time they did another run of Mustangs, who knows what the plate numbers were by then.

I seriously doubt anyone will know for sure also. I have talked to people working in Motor trans, and they tell me the same thing.
" we just pulled the next plate from the pile and stuck it on, that's the unit number it got "

That's the answer. Hope that helps you some.

[Mustang Kid]

So far I've only found 82 and 87 out of my dads paperwork. I'm going to go back through what I've found. I've even found test paperwork from when the CHP tested the 84 SVO:D

I have seen on some paper work that is the same as the ones with E-plate ranges without E plates.

[28HopUp]

I think I may have commented on this before, but I noticed that the E-plates skipped around on the CA smog website. I failed to write it down, but as I went through a known range of E88xxxx or E89xxxx Mustang plates I found at least one GMC Sierra 1500 pickup included in the batch of plates.

Sam, is any of your Dad's paperwork something that can be added to the VIN project? If so, please scan it and send me an email. If you want, you can add a copyright notation to each image.

[FoxChassis]

This is what I have so far (ongoing project)......

1982 = E870201 through E870600 (400)
1984 = E8626xx and E8627xx
1985 = E4083xx and E4084xx
1986 = E4137xx and E4138xx
1987 = E422886 through E423060 (175)
1988 = E4329xx and E4330xx
1989 = E433142 through E433150 (9) and E435101 through E435300 (200)
1990 = E382378 and E389203 through E389583
1991 = unknown
1992 = E895204 through E895250 and Exx90xx and Exx91xx
1993 = E881502 through E881648 and E895252 through E895426

[28HopUp]

Here's what I have seen so far from in-service pictures and VIN Project info:

1984 = lowest found is E862632 and highest is E862837 (a span of 206 plates)
1985 = lowest found is E408302 and highest is E408445 (a span of 144 plates)
1986 = lowest found is E413765 and highest is E413852 (a span of 88 plates)
1988 = lowest found is E432914 and highest is E433046 (a span of 133 plates)


Maybe we can edit post #1 with up-to-date information as plate ranges are posted?

[kapracing]

This is what I have so far (ongoing project)......


1990 = E382378 and E389203 through E389583






So there seems to be more plates than there are reported CHP's for 90? Interesting how mine "E389583" seems to be highest plate/unit # but was in the middle of the Con VIN run..

[mac88chp]

So there seems to be more plates than there are reported CHP's for 90? Interesting how mine "E389583" seems to be highest plate/unit # but was in the middle of the Con VIN run..There is no correlation between VINs and plate # order (e.g., cars were not run through assembly at Motor Transport by VIN#). They were received and parked in a huge lot in no particular order then pulled out in batches of no particular order and sent through upfitting where the plates were assigned by the order the cars were in on the line.

Plate assignment is different now and not in the hands of the Motor Transport techs. The vehicle certificates of origin from the factory are sent to DMV who assign plates to each one. CHP admin personnel then receive and put the plates on the proper cars before they ever enter the building for upfitting. That's how it was explained to us in April, right John?

[John10608]

I'll second that.

My car is a 92, and the plate is 895201, so who knows what they started with on the 92's.

T.M.I. for me to figure out.

It's cool info though for those wanting to spend the time trying to figure it out. Keep us posted !
Thanks

[Mustang Kid]

Just looked through some paperwork.

I've only seen 82 and 87 plate ranges so far.

But, # of cars for years:

1982:400 coupes (E870201-E870600)
1984:250
1985:155 (50%Charcoal interior, 50% Buckskin(tan))
1986:169
1987:175
1988:260
1989:210
1990:275
1991:230
1992:228
1993:150

[FoxChassis]

Just looked through some paperwork.

I've only seen 82 and 87 plate ranges so far.

But, # of cars for years:

1982:400 coupes (E870201-E870600)
1984:250
1985:155 (50%Charcoal interior, 50% Buckskin(tan))
1986:169
1987:175
1988:260
1989:210
1990:275
1991:230
1992:228
1993:150

So which one in 1985 had half grey and half tan interior.? :D

[FoxChassis]

Some of the work I have been doing:

http://foxchassis.com/files/ssp/CASmogCertificates.xlsx

[28HopUp]

Nice work! Have you and Aaron connected yet on the CA smog information?

[FoxChassis]

Yeah, he said that he had done all of the E88 and E89 plates from '92 and '93 but his PC that they were on crashed.

[28HopUp]

I am bumping this thread, after updating the first post. Does anyone have any information to confirm/expand the information we have presently? I would like to pin down the plate range for the 1991 CHP Mustangs. We have dozens of likely VINs from that year pinned down through the California Smog Site, but we do not know the E-plate range(s) to use in order to find any matches.

[28HopUp]

In terms of the 1991 CHPs, 1JerryL once owned one that was unit #8990. Do we know with certainty what the E-plate would have been for this unit? (Exx8990) We could start randomly searching the CA Smog Site if we knew where to start.

[FoxChassis]

I think the best hope is to find some in-service photos for the 1991 model year.

[mac88chp]

I think the best hope is to find some in-service photos for the 1991 model year.I've got a couple that I've had for a while that I marked as '91's but can't remember how I concluded that. Most often I put the plate into the BAR Smog query and recorded the VIN on the description (back when you could do this) but no VINs are present on these.

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,wfdqgqfkbgftdfgxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/fttdddwdsxgstqdbgdf/4/438439/1947960/CHPMustangLX006-vi.jpg

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,sdrrgbwbwrsdrggxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/skgrdsrtwxwssfftstt/4/438439/1947960/CAIntlAirshow-vi.jpg

[28HopUp]

Thanks Mike. We have two problems impeding our efforts. As you alluded to, time is not on our side because much of the info is no longer listed. The other issue is the orders for 1991. Unlike other years, there wasn't a single big order produced by Ford in 1991. It looks like there may have been several DSOs with smaller batches, so the e-plates may not be grouped together either.

[mac88chp]

I think I remember labeling those shots as '91's because the numbers didn't fit neatly into any other years known ranges...process of elimination. :)

[FoxChassis]

E389172 is within a known 1992 E-plate range

E389632 has no records but several before and after have records, and they're all for Dodge vehicles.

I'm afraid unless we hit on some definite 1991 Mustang E-plate records, 1992 is about as far back as we're going to be able to find records for.

[mac88chp]

Now here's an interesting plate not in any of the known ranges:

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,rsgtrfdtsgtsfwrxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/kskddwdwsxbwtkgqgbsxsqkbkrdst/4/438439/1947960/DSC06029-vi.jpg

Here's another shot of it from The California Highway Patrolman magazine:

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,wrfwbskkgdtgbdsxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/fqfdqfdsgxfrqrdgbqq/4/438439/1947960/visionSSP-vi.jpg

Note the older, straight leg "R" on the deck lid lettering.

I looked up smog history on E436751 and no record found but went back 30 numbers and found all 1991 pickups and utilities starting at E436750. Went forward the same and found all 1992 pickups and utilities starting at E436766. Based on that and it being surrounded by 1991 Crown Vics, I'm guessing this one is a 1991 also. As the possible prototype car for this modification it appears to have been outfitted and plated outside of any other Mustang group. The rest of the lightbar equipped test Mustangs were 1992s most likely produced in a batch from the photos of them I've seen so far (E895220, E895228, E895229).

I'll have to dig through my CHP magazines to find the date of the one I scanned the second shot above from.

[3cRider]

I have a '92 CHP coupe with "9186" painted on the inside of the door. There's also an old punch-style sticker on the dash with the same number and another that says "stall 3."
I'd love to find out where it was stationed. Thanks to this thread I think I know what the plate might have been!
Not that it helps, but I bought the car in the San Fernando Valley and supposedly that's where it was bought at the CHP auction as well.

[3cRider]

Sorry, quick question. If '92 plates go through 9189, is it safe to assume that my car was a late addition to the fleet in '92 since it's car number 9186?
Also, I see there are two different number sets and that may be for NorCal and SoCal cars. Can any of the pros shed some light on whether or not my car may have been in service in SoCal or not?
I'd sure love to find out where it was stationed!

[3cRider]

Sorry to blow the thread up. I bought a Marti report and found this info on there:
720002 San Francisco Ordering District under Domestic
Special Order # 0002

and

ORDER TYPE: FLEET
DSO ITEM #: 8166
DEALER #: 72U511
RON DUPRATT FORD
1320 N FI RST ST
DIXON CA 95620

I don't know if that helps at all with the plate research info, but I thought I might share. And if any of the SSP pros can help shed any info on this stuff, I'm all ears. I wonder if this means my car was actually a Northern California car?

[FoxChassis]

DSO 72 = San Jose ordering district

[mac88chp]

While there are certain plate number ranges associated with certain build years, plates themselves were not assigned in strict numerical order within build years.

The most definitive document to establish where a unit was stationed is the CHP Assignment Card which is hard to impossible to obtain. You may get lucky if an in-service photo or some other agency documentation can be found to associate the unit to a location. Otherwise, it can be tough to establish this information.

[Sal]

Justin, Swis bought the car at an auto auction in Van Nuys on Van Nuys Bl. across the street from the old GM plant. I believe the car had been repo'd from the previous owner.

[NoDrama43]

I have a '92 CHP coupe with "9186" painted on the inside of the door. There's also an old punch-style sticker on the dash with the same number and another that says "stall 3."
I'd love to find out where it was stationed. Thanks to this thread I think I know what the plate might have been!
Not that it helps, but I bought the car in the San Fernando Valley and supposedly that's where it was bought at the CHP auction as well.

Would you please post a picture of the tag on the dash. I want to see the location and the font style used plus the width of the tape. I need to make a couple for my CHP cars as well.

[Sal]

They are old school Dymo tags.

[3cRider]

Would you please post a picture of the tag on the dash. I want to see the location and the font style used plus the width of the tape. I need to make a couple for my CHP cars as well.

Sure thing, I'll get it later this week.
I call it a tag, but it was actually a thick plastic sticker made with one of these:
https://img1.etsystatic.com/002/0/7074180/il_fullxfull.362904531_aiq1.jpg
Swis, the previous owner said it was there when he got it, it says "Stall 1" or "Stall 3."
Anyone ever heard of this? It's stuck on the instrument cluster, near the top (or the bottom, can't quite remember) between the tach and the speedo.

[3cRider]

Justin, Swis bought the car at an auto auction in Van Nuys on Van Nuys Bl. across the street from the old GM plant. I believe the car had been repo'd from the previous owner.

Thanks, Sal, I appreciate it, brotha! I sure wish I could get more info on the car's past. Maybe someday I will. I know I asked Robert about assignment cards and he didn't have them. Super bummed about that, but maybe someday I'll run into someone who remembers car number 9186! :2thumbs:

[mac88chp]

Would you please post a picture of the tag on the dash. I want to see the location and the font style used plus the width of the tape. I need to make a couple for my CHP cars as well.A couple of examples of original in-service date labels:

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,wsbtgqktdgrbbkrxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/twkdrtbrtxsgwtdwtsr/4/438439/4026725/82inservicelabel-vi.jpg

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,wqfqqbkfsskkrggxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/tfbqggwtdxtrrkfgbfr/4/438439/4026725/inservicelabel-vi.jpg

Some offices also put labels on the dash to indicate parking lot assignments.

[3cRider]

Thanks for posting that! I have one of those too! Though mine might be on the inside of the door. Sorry, can't remember, the car has been parked for far too long! But I'll take a pic this weekend!

[NoDrama43]

excellent. I got to get me one of those dymo tape label makers.

[mac88chp]

Thanks for posting that! I have one of those too! Though mine might be on the inside of the door. Sorry, can't remember, the car has been parked for far too long! But I'll take a pic this weekend!
Right, on the aero cars they have been found there and also on the left side of the dash facing the door:

http://media.fotki.com/1_p,brktwdfqdbtwrdxstkbkdwsrgwg,vi/bsssdrrfbxswqwwbrqt/4/438439/1955813/CHP2a-vi.jpg

[3cRider]

Sorry for the less that stellar photos, but I'll get some better ones in the sunlight when the car is moving under its own power soon.

Here's a pic of the instrument cluster that says "Stall 3." Has anyone else seen this? Was one department known for this? If so, maybe that would help me decipher where my car was in service?
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n100/3cRiders/282B8E32-CAE9-40EB-B446-846428576394_zpsqg4zzrib.jpg


Here's the in-service date Dymo sticker on the inside of the driver's door, which has been painted over. Below that you can see the faint "9186," my unit number, also painted over!
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n100/3cRiders/367B42F6-FF15-4641-8D81-AE48BC561D61_zpsbvmt5s9n.jpg

[NoDrama43]

Thanks! Good info.

[smunczen]

You can see where my label used to be. I might have to remake it. Not sure of my car's in service date though.