85 Idaho SSP

[xxtrpr]

Finally on it's way to Mass...

[GSPI]

?? 1985 ?? That is something new.

[xxtrpr]

?? 1985 ?? That is something new.

Yes only known 1 in batch of 5 vin's added to the vim project.

[28HopUp]

Safe journeys for your new SSP!

[nighthawk756]

I'm glad you finally found a reputable shipper!! Congrats! I know you're excited!

[MOstang]

Congrats on the new SSP.

[kapracing]

Congrats !

I know your very anxious :D

[xxtrpr]

Thank you all just noticed in wrong forum can we move to 4eye section ?? please Thank you

[xxtrpr]

Well after a whole day of rescheduling drop off times the car showed up while i was at work about 8:30 pm so had my 16 yr old neighbor meet him and drive car in my driveway.... But positive is it made it quickly. Left Indiana shiny and maroon here its more white and gray

[nighthawk756]

Congrats!! Even dirty, I know you're glad to finally have it in your possession!

[kapracing]

Congrats!
Nothing a good bath won't fix :D

[stangman86uhp]

Congrats on the new addition to the family

[xxtrpr]

Thank you all still out in rain soooo much salt

[xxtrpr]

Been doing research on car off to a good start but not sure i will get any paperwork on its ISP history. Got the vehicle history report from Idaho transportation dept. Reached out to the couple that were 1st listed owners in Idaho 1989. They bought it with 70k miles on it they called me back and were super excited it isnt scrap. Older couple but 29 yrs ago it was their fast lil "rigg" as they put it. They bought from whollesaler that got from ISP they informed me when they got it she was all black with super dark tint. They had it 5 yrs in which time they had accident pulling out of driveway. Said it was minor crease in drivers rear 1/4. Which explains the body work i can see and it seems to be failing 25+ yrs later. They asked for current pictures and they didnt hate the porno pimptastic interior lol. They are currently looking for possible photos. But all paperwork went with car in a box sadly. Keeping my fingers crosssed for pictures. They invited me to their place in Idaho but little long of a ride for a weekend. Maybe will head to a show over that way in future make few stops on the trip. But wont be until its gone through.

[VAFHP91]

cool pick up, can't wait to see the pics.

[jarhed123]

Nice to hear you are able to get some history behind the car.

[xxtrpr]

Nice to hear you are able to get some history behind the car.

Yeah great to hear about car but was long ago and their not recalling a 100% . So lets hope i can find more.

[GSPI]

Sorry for catching this late, I have histories on the ISP cars if you need them. I have been told by Fleet about the 1983, 1986 and 1989 purchases not about any 1985's... so you can take that for what it's worth. 1986 they purchased 22 according to their fleet guys with 12 in 1983 and an unknown amount in 1989. I will also have the decal size cutouts for mine ('86) in the next few weeks to verify the sizing. I can help you with finding the necessary clues for if it's a roll bar or non-roll bar car. I also have the radio supplier contact information for them in that era too. I spoke to the guy that used to prep those cars back in the day, he is now a service manager for the dealership that bought out the original SSP dealership.

Do you have a Marti report for the car? It should have been sold out of Bob Rice Ford there in Idaho.

Good luck with your SSP!

[xxtrpr]

Greg glad to hear somebody has info i do have marti report and it is from that dealer. In vin project only 5 in that group not sure if that makes it only 5 for 85? Sent you a email and appreciate any info you can share.

[xxtrpr]

Just posting this up to see what the thoughts are of all that respond. Its been said and its posted that the 86 ISP's used the GE phoenix radio and unitrol siren neither of them have a huge trunk unit that takes a tray. But in my trunk there is def evidence of a tray mount. Like i had in most of my past SSP's. I know my trunk super sexy like my interior try to see past it and give me your thoughts.. Thank you for any help.

[xxtrpr]

Picture of trunk to big for upload maybe Ron can help me out.

[NoDrama43]

email me the picture and i will resize it and post.

[xxtrpr]

email me the picture and i will resize it and post.

Email sent

[xxtrpr]

Got out 20 mins early today not my normal 13+ hr night so opened garage for few minutes wanted to look quick for build sheet where i found it on NC car but the rug is a replacement. So no luck but also no mark on floor from it so still hope. But dis find bolts that look like they went through original rug. They are carriage bolts i'm guessing shotgun rack 2 on driveshaft tunnel other 2 on floor by drivers door. I know ive read they kept shotguns on ISP's across tunnel. What you think? Def not rillbar holes wrong unless was single hoop fir driver.

[xxtrpr]

TTT. Anybody?

[NoDrama43]

No clue here. My isp has the holes for rollbar but not those.

[GSPI]

Shot gun was mounted on the trans hump on the 1991 and newer cars according to the Fleet guys and they also said that the shotguns were in the trunk (no specifics). I have found no evidence of that on mine either... then again, I do not have evidence of the roll bar either!?

[xxtrpr]

They seem like overkill for sure. I will know better when i start remving interior panels since i cant see holes since all panels covered in fabulous fabric.

[GSPI]

... since i cant see holes since all panels covered in fabulous fabric.

It is colorful! Good luck with the deconstruction! :thumbsup:

[xxtrpr]

Will be slow progression with the 1 yr old taking up all my time when im not doing my 13+ hr nights at work.

[xxtrpr]

Looking like i won't have time for this project thanks to my mini me... i will be listing for sale anybody interested email me at xxtrpr@yahoo.com will list in 4sale section asap i have about 4k in it will take offers don't be afraid to shoot offer .

[xxtrpr]

Looks like this 1 is staying with me for now, think interior svared most away. Well today will change that i bought a 1986 LX 6cyl 41k mile 1 owner donor car. Paint is fried off it but interior mint. I will also be taking bumper covers tail lights and bolt on body panels. The strut towers and floors are 95 % rust free. Maybe part rest out or if Joe needs for MSP maybe donate. Also made some friends in the ISP they got me correct state door seals the old style not thr 1 with star and current plates.

[kapracing]

Congrats on purchase of correct interior! I know you'll be a lot happier once that's swapped out :D

[nighthawk756]

Congrats on purchase of correct interior! I know you'll be a lot happier once that's swapped out :D

x2!!

[John Connor]

X3

[xxtrpr]

Yes can't wait i won't even drive it, been sitting since i got. Thank you all...

[xxtrpr]

Donor

[xxtrpr]

Donor

Donor photo's won't load sorry

[xxtrpr]

Try again

[28HopUp]

It worked! I can see it. Sometimes the attachment function requires you to rename and resize the photo in order for it to upload.

[xxtrpr]

Yes finally got that 1 to load.

[kapracing]

Can't wait to see it de- pimp a fied :2thumbs:

[xxtrpr]

My care package from ISP

[xxtrpr]

Can't wait to see it de- pimp a fied :2thumbs:

You and me both

[kapracing]

My care package from ISP

SWEEEEEET :2thumbs:

[nighthawk756]

My care package from ISP

Very nice!! ;)

[John Connor]

Nice! I might be interested in some of the parts off the parts car. I just need to see what is need for the FHP I am getting off Joe.

[xxtrpr]

Nice! I might be interested in some of the parts off the parts car. I just need to see what is need for the FHP I am getting off Joe.

Congrats on FHP i was talking with him about that car this week also but really needed this parts car .more than another project..can't wait to see your FHP done

[FoxChassis]

Can you post the VIN, door tag, buck tag, build sheet, owner card, and axle tag (if not the door tag) from the donor car, if any of those items are still available, and a list of options and mileage that it has? I would like to enter it in the database as parted. Thanks.

[xxtrpr]

Mick car still all together will get you all i can asap. I think good sacrifice to save a rare SSP

[xxtrpr]

Already looking better sold race wheels to buy donor.

[xxtrpr]

We all make fat finger type-o's but what can be said about this...

[xxtrpr]

So have a few questions maybe somebody can help with or just get us all thinking lol.. so a pict on here of a 83 Idaho car all black with white roof but if you lool at buck tags posted it said came from ford with white doors. Maybe the reason nobody knew of the 85 ISP's is because atleast mine came with those same 14" steel wheels with caps because it was ordered automatic and from what i read the 85 auto ssp's came with 14" steel and my marti report confirmed for my car. So other than the mouldings and double exhaust you wouldnt really notice the difference unless you look at interior of the 85? Mine was also ordered with a center console. If the batch of 5 mine falls in were the only 85 ISP'S maybe they just went unnoticed. Maybe some of you have pictures that were thought to be 83's but are posssibly the mysterious 85's? Hope this to be the case to help with my cars resto.

[xxtrpr]

The tags

[28HopUp]

Here is the enlarged version of that photo:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/Gallery/images/ID/ID1.jpg


As you said, the side moldings and exhaust say its an 83, but other pics may surface.

Here are some photos of two cars thought to be an 86 based upon the hub caps:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/Gallery/images/ID/ID2.jpg

http://images14.fotki.com/v219/photos/4/42477/2505011/JL_Idaho_86_SSPMark-vi.jpg

[ImEvil1]

The '83s had black interior, which wasn't offered in '85. Also, the '86s in the pic had CHMSLs, which was the first year for those.

Your '85 should be easy to spot with the 14 inch wheels and full size wheel covers.

[xxtrpr]

Here is the enlarged version of

As you said, the side moldings and exhaust say its an 83, but other pics may surface.

Here are some photos of two cars thought to be an 86 based upon the hub caps:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/Gallery/images/ID/ID2.jpg

http://images14.fotki.com/v219/photos/4/42477/2505011/JL_Idaho_86_SSPMark-vi.jpg
The picture in middle you can see 3rd brake light which is 86.

[xxtrpr]

The '83s had black interior, which wasn't offered in '85. Also, the '86s in the pic had CHMSLs, which was the first year for those.

Your '85 should be easy to spot with the 14 inch wheels and full size wheel covers.

Not sure it would be full size covers?

[FoxChassis]

Marti report for this ISP? And the VIN, door tag, buck tag, etc from the donor car? You holding out on me? :)

[xxtrpr]

Marti report for this ISP? And the VIN, door tag, buck tag, etc from the donor car? You holding out on me? :)

Possibly!! No haven't had time to touch donor car and ssp still up on stands have some old Eagle's a friend gave me i need to get mounted on the 15" steelies sorry but can't do the 14" hubcap route. its going to be a struggle for me to keep it auto. My guess is when 86's came to Idaho the 83's that weren't wrecked didn't stay in service much longer so i would bet they swapped the 85 to the 15" so they didn't have to keep 14" wheels and tires in stock..Mine looks to have been in service until 89.

[GSPI]

Here is the enlarged version of that photo:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/Gallery/images/ID/ID1.jpg


As you said, the side moldings and exhaust say its an 83, but other pics may surface.

Here are some photos of two cars thought to be an 86 based upon the hub caps:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/Gallery/images/ID/ID2.jpg

http://images14.fotki.com/v219/photos/4/42477/2505011/JL_Idaho_86_SSPMark-vi.jpg

The two bottom photos are confirmed 86's. A friend of mine from California actually took the middle photo in Idaho for reference and the other was confirmed by Idaho SP fleet. The Idaho SP fleet also confirmed the use of the 86's but I have not gotten feedback on 85's since I was told by them that they purchased in '83, '86, and '89 only and typically were kept in service for about 70,000+ miles then replaced. I have made contact with a road sergeant there in Idaho that used to drive the 86's maybe he can shed some light on the 85's.

[FoxChassis]

Here is a 1985 "Idaho" (FF213220), the first in a group of five consecutive: http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/ID/1985ID213220/info213220.htm

[ImEvil1]

Not sure it would be full size covers?

The '85s I have seen in-service pics of, that were CFI cars, all had full-size wheel covers. I'm sure exceptions exist, and departments/and/or officers might have switched things around, but an Eminger Invoice would show you what covers came on your car. Have you asked for one of those yet?

[xxtrpr]

The '85s I have seen in-service pics of, that were CFI cars, all had full-size wheel covers. I'm sure exceptions exist, and departments/and/or officers might have switched things around, but an Eminger Invoice would show you what covers came on your car. Have you asked for one of those yet?

I haven't yet Mike where do i request that?

[xxtrpr]

Here is a 1985 "Idaho" (FF213220), the first in a group of five consecutive: http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/ID/1985ID213220/info213220.htm

Mick, that is my car

[28HopUp]

I haven't yet Mike where do i request that?

Go here -

http://www.martiauto.com/itemselection.cfm?item=eminger&eid=49&selecteditem=yes

[ImEvil1]

Go here -

http://www.martiauto.com/itemselection.cfm?item=eminger&eid=49&selecteditem=yes


Thanks for getting that, Bill.

John,

Here is the one on my '85, for reference ("wheel ornaments" are the argent 85 center caps, per the special equipment parts list).

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3723&highlight=eminger

[xxtrpr]

Thank you i have deluxe marti report guess i need to order that invoice also

[xxtrpr]

Marti Report

[ImEvil1]

Thank you i have deluxe marti report guess i need to order that invoice also

No prob. They may or may not have yours....luck of the draw.

If you aren't going with the full size covers anyway, it probably doesn't matter as much.

[xxtrpr]

No prob. They may or may not have yours....luck of the draw.

If you aren't going with the full size covers anyway, it probably doesn't matter as much.

True Mike but be nice to have good document to have with car

[xxtrpr]

Here is a 1985 "Idaho" (FF213220), the first in a group of five consecutive: http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/ID/1985ID213220/info213220.htm
Any luck updating vin project with my Marti report?

[28HopUp]

The attachment is too small. PM sent...

[28HopUp]

Any luck updating vin project with my Marti report?

Thanks for the email. I love that Marti sends their reports as PDF files, because the quality is much better than scanning/photographing a printed copy. I updated your car's page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/ID/1985ID213220/info213220.htm


:)

[xxtrpr]

Thank you Bill.. the reports are much better that way.. still seems strange it was ordered with console is that rare on 4eye ssp's anybody?

[xxtrpr]

It was built so far behind schedule it must have been on lot with some 86's since those would have been on lots in september o believe.

[FoxChassis]

Console was an extra cost option in LX coupes, and yes, it is quite uncommon to see an SSP ordered with one.

[xxtrpr]

Console was an extra cost option in LX coupes, and yes, it is quite uncommon to see an SSP ordered with one.

Thank you for quick response yeah been looking on vin project at 85's the auto's ive looked at none have console and i've never seen it in 4eye 5spd.

[FoxChassis]

Out of 60 four-eyed SSP reports that I have seen, only six so far have a console listed as equipped:

DF175204
EF181823 (console not shown on build sheet)
EF184605
EF184704
FF213220 (your car)
GF221247

[xxtrpr]

Looking around in ISP yesterday found a White Castle stock fund receipt under drivers seat for a Scott. The name on fan shroud is Scott on my carfax car was in Indiana since 2005 so looked up on google white castles then the persons name. Found white castle and his address in Indianapolis and his wifes name Samantha which is also on fan shroud. On carfax color noted as red for 1st time in 2007 so my hope is they have pictures from before it was redor any additional information on history or past owners.. it was also titled in Washington and Illinois. Of course in Idaho. Fingers crossed

[28HopUp]

Good luck. The hunt for information is part of the fun... :)

[kapracing]

Good luck. The hunt for information is part of the fun... :)

X's 2

[xxtrpr]

X's 2
Thanks guys i agree it is part of the fun this car has been the biggest challenge out of all i have done in past. Not sure if it's because it's approaching 30 yrs old or because Idaho had so few or the combination.. Can't believe 85 almost 30 yrs ago feels like yesterday

[xxtrpr]

My wife wants driveway clean so donor needs to go asap so i was allowed some time in driveway today. I started on SSP removed the seats the center console and carpet. Found the holes for equipment mounting on passenger side of trans hump. Also tore off some of the velour from dash. Looks like the mic mounted above drivers right knee low on dash. Looks like mystery switch hidden on dash was wired to brake switch so my guess it was a kill switch like FHP and my KHP. Also dug around some mystery wires on radiator support looks like the head light harnesses were cut into. Found ground wire on passenger bumper reinforcement for siren i think. No pictures today my phone battery was dead. Will try to get some this week.

[nighthawk756]

Always good to make some progress! :thumbsup:

[xxtrpr]

Always good to make some progress! :thumbsup:

Thanks Brad, true even though very minimal progress "ANY" is good

[xxtrpr]

Just a question did the 85's have reinforced seat backs on SSP?

[xxtrpr]

Couple pictures 1 of the wiring cut into passenger head light harness. And 1 of equipment holes in passenger side of trans tunnel.. Anybody with thoights on holes for equipment lay out. The 2 vertical lines is the shifter position for perspective of hole placement.

[xxtrpr]

Putting in for a weeks vacation 1st or 2nd week of November so i can strip donor car the wife wants it out of driveway lol. So hope to have Joe pick it up for MSP project parts. I probably get 2 days out of that week to do car stuff. The rest will be buttoning up outside work before winter takes over up here. Not looking forward to the Snow it's getting old and so am i. But will be fun with my son he is 18 months now so we can enjoy some winter activities and get him shoveling by next year.

[FoxChassis]

Don't forget to snap pics of donor car door tag and buck tag(s), so I can put it in DB as parted. Thanks.

[xxtrpr]

Don't forget to snap pics of donor car door tag and buck tag(s), so I can put it in DB as parted. Thanks.

Mick, Not to worry i will.

[xxtrpr]

Some good info on it worth getting in my opinion.. To large to load here will have to send to VIN guru

[28HopUp]

Thanks for the emails, John! I added the Eminger Report to your car's page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/ID/1985ID213220/info213220.htm

Very cool! :cool:

[xxtrpr]

On marti report shows stripe but as you can see they eliminated it on Eminger and also shows door mouldings shipped loose on Eminger. Still no clarification on the hubcaps. Not that i will be running 14's with caps i just can't i might track some down to have for future. Thank you Bill for the quick response and update to page i don't think 5 minutes elapsedsince i sent when you had updated. Just want to say Thanks to you and others for all the time you put into this site and our hobby.

[ImEvil1]

On marti report shows stripe but as you can see they eliminated it on Eminger and also shows door mouldings shipped loose on Eminger. Still no clarification on the hubcaps. Not that i will be running 14's with caps i just can't i might track some down to have for future. Thank you Bill for the quick response and update to page i don't think 5 minutes elapsedsince i sent when you had updated. Just want to say Thanks to you and others for all the time you put into this site and our hobby.

Check out what one looks like with the 15 inch wheels and SSP hubcaps (it's listed on the Eminger).

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3723&highlight=eminger+1422

Your car had 14 inch wheels and stock 14 inch hubcaps, which is what they put on the AOD cars.

[xxtrpr]

Check out what one looks like with the 15 inch wheels and SSP hubcaps (it's listed on the Eminger).

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3723&highlight=eminger+1422

Your car had 14 inch wheels and stock 14 inch hubcaps, which is what they put on the AOD cars.
I thank you Mike guess im just hoping for different news lol.

[ImEvil1]

I thank you Mike guess im just hoping for different news lol.

You just have to be embrace the smaller ones! I'd love to know the production numbers on those. Two years only (maybe only one year).

[xxtrpr]

So she is going to new home a RI LEO picked the ISP and donor car up yesterday. It is his 1st SSP, he has been shopping for 1 a long time. He likes the idea of how rare the ISP is and it was close to home so shipping much less. He drove here about a hour and a half in ramp truck the SSP went on top and donor on tow bar behind. He is getting his community involved he already went to local trade school. The students will be in on restoration, paint and wiring the ISP.He also reached out to local TV about the project so they will be possibly covering it. He wants to do it close to original as possible i can't wait to see it done. He should be joining the forums and keep us all informed on progress. Should be good for our hobby. Thank you to all that were interested she went to good home..

[kapracing]

Congrats not only on the sale but for finding it a good home...

[xxtrpr]

Congrats not only on the sale but for finding it a good home...

Thanks Bobby and i think you know whats next for me

[ImEvil1]

Good deal...just saw your text. Glad it worked out.

[nighthawk756]

Congrats John! That's the biggest thing for us in this hobby, finding the right home for these cars!

[xxtrpr]

Congrats John! That's the biggest thing for us in this hobby, finding the right home for these cars!

Thanks Brad,
Very true hard to find right person but think i did

[28HopUp]

Congrats! 'Happy to hear you found a good home for the car. :)

[xxtrpr]

Congrats! 'Happy to hear you found a good home for the car. :)

Yeah Bill I was worried for awhile i wouldn't find good home he came across it on ebay and only hr and a half away.