1988 Pierce County Sheriff SSP - #1310

[Rhino]

All, Current owner asked if I would post his ad here on his behalf.

This car used to belong to me, and I sold it to Buddy a few years back. Has won a few awards at some of the shows. Rare car given PCSD only ran them one year in 1988 - and only had around 12 of them in total. The Cabernet Red color was used on their traffic cars.

Ad text from Buddy:
Selling my 1988 Pierce County Sheriff's (Washington State) traffic unit #1310.

I purchased this car from another member, Ryan (Rhino) in 2012. At the time, I was a Deputy with the Pierce County Sheriff's Department and since have lateraled to another agency.

Here is a link to the photographs for the car and gear I have in photo bucket.

http://s52.photobucket.com/user/buddy325i/slideshow/1988%20Pierce%20County%201310

I was able to obtain some gear from a detective that drove one of the mustangs when they were in-service. (Radio, in-service pics, "perp book" (pages containing info were removed) and pull over sweater).

The car runs and drives great and has been garaged the entire time I have had her.

I have photo's showing where the paint has cracked (hood, above the driver door and the rear driver side).

Lightbar and siren are connected/operational. The directional bar was not installed (was not in the car during service). Decals are magnetic.

I am asking $8,000 (or reasonable offer) for the car with all the gear. I am located in Bonney Lake, Washington.

Send me an email (buddy325i@yahoo.com) or text me (253-820-0832) if you have any questions.

[MOstang]

Cool car and price seems reasonable. I hope it finds a good home.

[PR93LXCOUPE]

Very nice car...

[28HopUp]

Cool car and price seems reasonable. I hope it finds a good home.

I'm a bit late on this thread, but I agree...

[MOstang]

Not sure if this is still up for sale, but in the event it is, I will give it a free bump for a cool car. :thumbsup:

[Rhino]

Car was sold to a "museum" in Florida to be part of their collection.

And...is now on EBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-LX-Sedan-2Door-SSP-/20157179336

[28HopUp]

Car was sold to a "museum" in Florida to be part of their collection.

And...is now on EBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Mustang-LX-Sedan-2Door-SSP-/20157179336

And now on CL with a MAJOR bump in price -

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5069113269.html

1988 SSP MUSTANG - $16500 (BROOKSVILLE)


This is your chance to own one of the best investment cars their is. The SSP mustang is the most collectible fox body ranking number 1.One of the reasons for this is their rarity. Departments would order them in the hundreds. Making a 1988 sold to a single department had all the goodies that a SSP Mustang would have with any changes a particular department would want such as door locks or power windows. This car is one of 636 ordered by this department. It has the lights and siren, radar gun all in working order, the communication system is their but not working, car had added sway bar, graphics are magnetic so the car can be driven. AutoTrader has put out a series of single issue magazines with at least two of them called Mustang Milestones. It's kind of a high end publication with very nice pages and feature cars that I don't recall seeing elsewhere. In the latest, they have an article on the Top 10 Collectible Fox Body Mustangs. I'm not so sure that I agree with their choices, but they do have good reasons for their choices. Often it's because of the general public not being aware of the existence of a given version (supply and demand). I don't intend to copy the article here, but I will list their choices, along with what they call Special Finds: variations of their choices that are more desirable. If there is interest, I'll post the Honorable mentions later.10. 1979 Indy Pace Car Replica (SF: Festival Cars)9. 1980-81 Cobra (SF: Bright Caramel)8. 1982 Mustang GT (SF: Automatic versions)7. 1984 20th Anniversary Special Edition (SF: Turbo-four convertibles)6. 1985-86 GT (SF: Canadian Cobra)5. 1986-93 Saleen (SF: Cancelled Oregon Highway Patrol SSP)4. 1987-93 LX 5.0 "Notchback" (SF: Sand Beige)3. 1992 LX 5.0 Summer Special Edition convertible (SF: 5-speed versions)2. 1993 Cobra (SF: R models)1. 1982-93 SSP (Early California Highway Patrol models or 1985 SSP)

:No no:

[MOstang]

PCSD really ordered 636 SSPS :rolleyes: . It always seems that people who aren't really that involved in the SSP hobby like to buy them low and try to flip them higher than market for the car :eek:. I guess if you can succeed in doing so, more power to you.

[MOstang]

BTW, I really like those PCSD SSPs, so I hope it will find a good next home to settle down for awhile. Probably a tougher sell in the Eastern part of the country than would be in the Northwest.

[Rhino]

Wow - nothing like that guy trying to make a $11K profit. Yikes!

Nothing to see here....keep on moving along...

[MOstang]

If a misrepresentation of Buyer intentions is what occurred here (and I'm making an assumption based upon posts I've read on Facebook and here) that is unfortunate. It seems that sort of thing is becoming a more frequent phenomenon.

[urustyone]

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5143565022.html

[MOstang]

Cool SSP, hope to see it find a good home.

[Rhino]

I see the seller's pricing is finally dropping down into more reasonable territory.

If anyone has an interest, Buddy or I can fill a prospective buyer in on the car and any quirks it had.

Was a nice car. Definitely needed some small things worked out on it, but showed well, and a somewhat rare unit with the color combo and history. Drove nice. Sounded good. Was a lot of fun.

Would be cool to see it land with someone in the group.

[smunczen]

I sure do like this car.

[kecurroj]

I live in Pierce County and remember seeing this car when it was in service.

(no, it didn't pull me over, lol).

[Rhino]

Wilson, I used to own the car that is for sale now. It's a nice car. Not perfect and needs a few things. But was fun to own when I had it. It left WA about 6 months ago from the owner I sold it to. And is now in FL. Would cost a bit to bring it back home. But....if you are interested, I can give you in-depth info on it.

[kecurroj]

I appreciate it, but I'm not looking for a restored cruiser, more of an unmarked type of SSP.

Thanks!

[Rhino]

Remove quick disconnects on lightbar and magnetic decal/badges = unmarked cruiser. :)

[28HopUp]

This is now listed on ebay without a reserve -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Mustang-SSP-notchback-/191720216566?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

As an FYI, I am the current high bidder. I offered what I think is a fair price for this car, and I will not be going higher. We'll see if it is higher than what anyone else is willing to pay (hopefully the seller will not have any of his buddies shill-up the price).

[ImEvil1]

Good luck, Bill.

[28HopUp]

Thanks Mike. I am not getting my hopes up about this one yet. I'm concerned that the seller may use shill bidders to ramp up the price of the auction. It's a shame because I am willing to buy this for the right price, but I am only going to spend so much.

There are a couple of other SSPs out there that I may pursue if this one falls through. I'd like something that I can get into for a decent price that I can enjoy driving/showing while making improvements along the way.

[28HopUp]

Thanks Mike. I am not getting my hopes up about this one yet. I'm concerned that the seller may use shill bidders to ramp up the price of the auction. It's a shame because I am willing to buy this for the right price, but I am only going to spend so much.

So there is recent bidding activity by someone with an ebay feedback of only 1. That sounds totally legit, right? Of course, a bidder who is friendly with the seller could have a feedback score in the thousands I suppose...

[NoDrama43]

we shill see........

memba 1 9 8 ?

[MOstang]

It would be nice to see it end up with an SSP hobbyist.

[28HopUp]

I called the number in the ebay ad so that I could ask a couple of questions. There are no good interior shots of the car in the listing, and there are no details about the car in the description (other than saying that SSP Mustangs are the #1 investment opportunity in the galaxy!). I want to make sure that the car still has the police equipment installed, and the sale includes the lightbar and magnetic markings. I just called (you know, during what I would consider normal business hours), and the answering machine kicked on. The seller is actually a golf cart retailer. I don't mind folks making a living for themselves, but that place is certainly not a MUSEUM like the previous owner in Washington was told.

It would be nice to see it end up with an SSP hobbyist.

I agree. The price is inching closer and closer to my max bid. Although I said I would hold fast, I will need to decide if I want to offer up a little more or make a play on another interesting SSP (if that window of opportunity is still open).

[28HopUp]

Well, I finally got a hold of the seller. The police equipment has been removed and is NOT included in the sale. :thumbsdown: He gave me an out-the-door price WITH the equipment, in which case he would end the ebay listing early. The price is not ridiculous, but I'm not sure if I would go that high either. Decisions... Decisions...

[kapracing]

:popcorn1: :popcorn1:

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Although I said I would hold fast, I will need to decide if I want to offer up a little more or make a play on another interesting SSP (if that window of opportunity is still open).

Waiting on a call today that may start that window on a downward path.

[kapracing]

:eek:

[28HopUp]

Waiting on a call today that may start that window on a downward path.

I fully understand, Bob. I will not retract my bid out of principle, and I cannot obligate myself elsewhere ;) until I am no longer the highest bidder on the PCSD car. Regardless, GLWS! :cool:

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

I fully understand, Bob. I will not retract my bid out of principle, and I cannot obligate myself elsewhere ;) until I am no longer the highest bidder on the PCSD car. Regardless, GLWS! :cool:

Understood and admirable choice. I'll keep you posted.:yes:

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

A deal for my smoke MSP has been reached this evening and will be completed early next week. Thanks for all the interest! I'm excited for the new owner (I truly enjoyed getting to know him this week) and I'll let him come forward with all his SSP enthusiasm.

[28HopUp]

Congrats Bob! :thumbsup:

[NoDrama43]

I must have missed it. I didn't know it was for sale.

congrats

[28HopUp]

It wasn't for sale for long, Jim. A little bird told me about it, but it was right after I placed my bid on the #1310 PCSD car on ebay. I figured that my modest bid would have been surpassed quickly, and I could have worked out something with Bob on the Minnesota SSP. However, with just over 2 hours to go, I am still the high bidder and Bob sold his car to another member (certainly no hard feelings). Knowing that Bob's SSP is off the table I decided to up my bid slightly, so we will see if it is enough.

[NoDrama43]

A N D ...............

we have a winner folks !!

congrats on a good price for a rare a$$ car.

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

It wasn't for sale for long, Jim. A little bird told me about it, but it was right after I placed my bid on the #1310 PCSD car on ebay. I figured that my modest bid would have been surpassed quickly, and I could have worked out something with Bob on the Minnesota SSP. However, with just over 2 hours to go, I am still the high bidder and Bob sold his car to another member (certainly no hard feelings). Knowing that Bob's SSP is off the table I decided to up my bid slightly, so we will see if it is enough.

Looks like you won (if I can decipher the cryptic eBay bidder name system correctly), Congrats!

[28HopUp]

Thanks guys! :D I upped my bids to a level I was comfortable spending (after discussing this car fully with Rhino first). This one will be saved and improved upon.

[MOstang]

Congratulations, are you receiving the emergency equipment, etc. with it?

[ImEvil1]

Congrats, Bill!!

[NoDrama43]

Good news Bill.

I never owned that one at one time......;)

[28HopUp]

Congratulations, are you receiving the emergency equipment, etc. with it?

The magnetic markings are included with the ebay purchase (along with the Buck Tags and documentation). The seller quoted me a price of $1,200 for the radio equipment and lightbar. :eek: I have spoken with Ryan, and I can get those pieces for quite a bit less if I am patient. The current lightbar is not exactly correct, and Ryan told me the following story about #1310 -

Apparently, one of the red PCSD Mustang patrol/traffic units had its lightbar stolen while in-service. The department then made it into a slicktop unit, much like the blue 88 PCSD Mustang was. It is thought that #1310 was that car. As such, I could equip #1310 much like the blue unit (i.e. no lightbar) and it be considered correct. ;)


Congrats, Bill!!

Thank you, Sir. This one just kinda fell together for me.


Good news Bill.

I never owned that one at one time......;)

Haha! The thing I like about this PCSD car is the uniqueness of the vehicle. Unlike CHP, TxDPS, FHP, SCHP, or GSP units (no offense intended), the chances of me running into another PCSD on the East coast are slim to none. Yet the agency is relatively recognizable to those in the hobby. Plus this car is complete enough that I can drive/show it as is while I fix the things that need to be done to it.

[Alan B]

Hello Bill,
I had a brief PPI done on the car. No surprises. Fluids looked good, probably older brake fluid. Leak in exhaust system "Drives like a 250K car." No rust, no evidence of body work. Underside very clean. Paint blister on hood, marks from light bar. Expected holes in dash. Cigarette burns on back seat, foam shifted and wear on driver's seat.
If I'd gotten it I would have done shocks and struts, fixed the exhaust, and driven the snot out of it.
Glad to know that it went to someone who will enjoy and appreciate it.
I'll be on the forum soon to get advice on what to look for as I look for another one.
Alan

[Alan B]

Engine and transmission OK. AC removed.

[28HopUp]

Alan, thanks for that add'l information. Ryan aka Rhino filled me in on most of that. It will need better tires too if I want to enjoy driving it (all in good time).

And welcome to the forum! :)

[28HopUp]

Ryan/Rhino, thank you for taking the time to answer all of my PCSD questions. I am loving the crash course to learn more about this agency.

[Rhino]

Bill - SO happy you ended up with the car. Welcome to the club! :) LMK if you need any info - very glad to assist on info.

[28HopUp]

Bill - SO happy you ended up with the car. Welcome to the club! :) LMK if you need any info - very glad to assist on info.

We'll see. For some reason the squirrelly seller put the car back up f/s on Craigslist this morning -

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5296433214.html


I just sent my payment, as mutually agreed, via UPS overnight, along with a UPS overnight return envelope for the title. I will be writing him shortly. I won't feel comfortable until I have the (Washington) title in-hand and the car has been picked up by the transportation company.

[NoDrama43]

I am not surprised Bill. I hope it works out the right way.

If not I would make his life a living hell on both eBay and Craigslist, not to mention mail fraud etc.

[ImEvil1]

Posting deleted by author.

SMH.

[28HopUp]

My level of comfort is higher after hearing that somebody contacted the name/number in the now-deleted CL ad, and was told that the car is sold.

[28HopUp]

The transportation arrangements have been confirmed. The car will be picked up later this week and shipped to the shop where Bobby works. The car will need some areas of the paint redone, which could easily turn into more work. But I am very comfortable with Bobby's work - I just hope he can paint a RED SSP as nice as the GSP cars he's done. :D Once he's finished with the paint, I will run down in my F150 with a trailer and bring it home.

It will need tires, shocks/struts, and maybe springs right away. I will remove the camber plates on the shock towers and strut brace at the same time. I will keep an eye out for the missing A/C parts this winter. I know of a few other minor details that will need attention, and surely there will be other items to fix along the way. But this will be a nice project that is much farther along than the SMPV I sold, and I will be able to stay active in the hobby and enjoy the PCSD car as I work on it. :)

[mac88chp]

Congrats, hope all the details work out. Post some photos of your progress!

[NoDrama43]

sounds like a good plan. It will probably be about 17 hours one way from your place to Bobby's. If you want to layover at my place you are more than welcome.

[28HopUp]

Thanks Jim! I appreciate the offer. It should be about 14 hours to Bobby's from here running down I-95 and I-85 towards Atlanta, but that is a ways off for now. Jack also suggested that I bring the SSP to Charleston for him to look after (he's such a thoughtful son!)

Congrats, hope all the details work out. Post some photos of your progress!

Thanks. I will certainly do that! :)

[28HopUp]

The PCSD car was picked up yesterday, and was headed to Tampa to be loaded on the northbound truck. I am hoping that the carrier gives Bobby plenty of notice as to when they expect to be arriving at the body shop (they are to give him a 2-hour window about 24 hours in advance). But the car has left the "museum"! :)

[NoDrama43]

big sigh of relief here. You got it right Bill. Hopefully it will make it in one piece !!

[kapracing]

:popcorn1:

[28HopUp]

In-service photos of the PCSD Mustangs are few and far between, but the attached photo of a white K-9 unit (#1312) sure looks great.

[Rhino]

Everyone sorta snickers when I mention that PCSD ran some Mustangs as K-9 cars. But...they did! Wild, eh? :)

We've never found one of the K-9 cars to date. I think there were 2-3 (possibly) from the research that I have done.

Glad the car is on it's way to Bobby. Awesome!

[28HopUp]

I love that PCSD had at least one K-9 Mustang! It would be cool to find one. Since it looks as though PCSD ran their unit numbers sequentially according to VIN order, then K-9 unit #1312 would be the VIN that is two cars after mine. I may pull a Marti Report on that VIN to confirm it as a white car. The in-service photo also helps a bit with some things on my car (like size and placement of the unit number on the fender). It would be great to find a better photograph of the scroll under the molding so that it could be accurately replicated. I am really looking forward to getting into the details on this car's further restoration.

Glad the car is on it's way to Bobby.

Me too! Me too!

[Switchcars]

Were any Cabernet red cars made in a 5spd? If so that would be my ideal find.

sorry to thread hijack. Thought this was interesting as I've been communicating with the same golf cart dealer "ssp museum" about his 93 CHP.

[28HopUp]

The PCSD Mustangs were all automatics. Good luck with the seller on the CHP. His knowledge on these cars appears to be only what previous owners have told him. I do not believe he has done any research on his own. I wouldn't go so far as to give him negative feedback based upon my purchase, but some of his follow through took longer than it should have in my opinion. He certainly thinks these cars are worth more than they are.