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94cobra
04-11-2015, 12:47 PM
Hi, guys I was looking for alittle help with finding out if my florida ssp mustang started out as a fhp car or just a sheriff car. it's missing one of the buck tags car was painted a couple of times but I know for sure it started its life in black with (gray interior ),has a spotlight , has the holes in the trunk for the radio equipment ,and small antenna hole in the trunk lid. Also has a property of levy county sheriffs sticker in the door jam. Did the vin check but wasn't any help.Hopefully someone point me in the direction . Thanks

kapracing
04-11-2015, 01:27 PM
I do not believe any 1988 FHP's came with gray int. post up a pic of the door sticker and that should be enough to decode it for you... Foxchassis should be able to decode it if you do...

94cobra
04-11-2015, 04:21 PM
[QUOTE=94cobra;49831]

Hi, guys I was looking for alittle help with finding out if my florida ssp mustang started out as a fhp car or just a sheriff car. it's missing one of the buck tags car was painted a couple of times but I know for sure it started its life in black with (gray interior ),has a spotlight , has the holes in the trunk for the radio equipment ,and small antenna hole in the trunk lid. Also has a property of levy county sheriffs sticker in the door jam. Did the vin check but wasn't any help.Hopefully someone point me in the direction . Thanks!!

FoxChassis
04-11-2015, 07:34 PM
First year that I have seen an FHP with grey interior trim is 1989.

ImEvil1
04-11-2015, 10:43 PM
Was your car painted white? I worked with a guy from LCSO who drove a white 88 or 89 former FHP.

Also, I got your message reference the pic upload. Should be fine if its a jpg or bmp.

94cobra
04-12-2015, 12:41 AM
Yes , believe one of the colors was white . Looks to me the car started black, was painted white then blue and then back to black

94cobra
04-12-2015, 11:42 AM
Door sticker

28HopUp
04-12-2015, 11:53 AM
Welcome to the forum. We have yet to confirm a SSP in that DSO from 1988, but the Orange County, Florida SSPs (different DSO #) are a few VINs ahead of it within the same consecutive batch of VINs. According to the Florida DMV site...

https://services.flhsmv.gov/MVCheckWeb/InquiryView.aspx


...your car also a police-branded title in Florida -

FoxChassis
04-12-2015, 05:57 PM
VIN
1FA = Ford passenger car manufactured in USA
B = active belts, no airbags
P = passenger car
40 = Mustang LX 2-dr coupe
E = SEFI H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
7 = VIN check digit
J = 1988 model year
F = Dearborn Assembly
245258 = 145,258th 1988 Ford scheduled for production at Dearborn Assembly

Door Tag
Date - 04/88 = April 1988 scheduled build
F0134 = 134 lbs front accessory reserve load
R0218 = 218 lbs rear accessory reserve load
Exterior Paint Colors - 1C = Black
DSO - 240270 = Jacksonville district sales office (24), 1988 special order #0270
Body - 66B = Mustang 2-dr convertible/LX 2-dr coupe
Mldg - XXX = Black bodyside molding, no stripe insert
Int Trim - FG = cloth seating, low-back front buckets (F), Medium Grey interior color (G)
Tape - P = Light Charcoal paint stripe
R - 8 = electronic search AM/FM stereo radio
Ax - Z = 3.08:1 axle ratio, Traction-Lok (limited slip) differential
Tr - 2 = manual Borg Warner transmission (5-speed T-5)
PP = front springs
SS = rear springs

ImEvil1
04-12-2015, 08:09 PM
First year that I have seen an FHP with grey interior trim is 1989.

Unmarked FHP?

94cobra
04-12-2015, 11:02 PM
Thanks for the info FoxChassis

28HopUp
04-13-2015, 09:20 AM
Also has a property of levy county sheriffs sticker in the door jam.

Can you post up a photo of the sticker? Does the car have any other tell-tale SSP signs? (relocated trunk release, grounding straps, etc)

FoxChassis
04-13-2015, 11:26 AM
First year that I have seen an FHP with grey interior trim is 1989.
Unmarked FHP?

Yes, all Black.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/FHP/1989FHP201526/info201526.htm

FoxChassis
04-13-2015, 11:50 AM
I have seen data on only 10 unmarked FHP with grey interior. One in 1989, two in 1992, and seven in 1993. The rest were black and tan.

Of course I do not have data on every FHP so there are bound to be more.

94cobra
04-13-2015, 12:29 PM
Can you post up a photo of the sticker? Does the car have any other tell-tale SSP signs? (relocated trunk release, grounding straps, etc)

Hi 28HopUp, thanks for the info . There is a picture of the door sticker in a earlier post. I'm 100% sure that it's a Florida ssp car has reinforced floor pans(changed out carpet) certified speedometer, and of course the relocated truck release will post more pics later

FoxChassis
04-13-2015, 02:24 PM
I think Bill (28HopUp) is asking for a pic of the Levy County Sheriff sticker.

ImEvil1
04-13-2015, 04:14 PM
I have seen data on only 10 unmarked FHP with grey interior. One in 1989, two in 1992, and seven in 1993. The rest were black and tan.

Of course I do not have data on every FHP so there are bound to be more.

Same here...figured you and I were on the same page.

All of the black and tan cars I saw at auction from '90-up had grey interiors, beige before that. No idea on any unmarked cars prior to '88.

94cobra
04-13-2015, 05:21 PM
Levy county sheriff sticker

94cobra
04-13-2015, 05:29 PM
Was your car painted white? I worked with a guy from LCSO who drove a white 88 or 89 former FHP.

Also, I got your message reference the pic upload. Should be fine if its a jpg or bmp.

What do you think ImEvil1 white over spray paint

94cobra
04-13-2015, 05:37 PM
Glove box sticker

ImEvil1
04-13-2015, 07:21 PM
Nice DHSMV sticker! The guy I worked with said his was a former FHP...but it was a 5 speed, so I assumed it had been a marked unit.

94cobra
04-13-2015, 10:56 PM
So is the dhsmv sticker a good clue that's its fhp..?

ImEvil1
04-13-2015, 11:21 PM
So is the dhsmv sticker a good clue that's its fhp..?

It's a good clue...but I'm not used to seeing the numbers handwritten on it.

FoxChassis
04-14-2015, 07:37 AM
Same here...figured you and I were on the same page.

All of the black and tan cars I saw at auction from '90-up had grey interiors, beige before that. No idea on any unmarked cars prior to '88.
Agreed on the probable interior trim colors of the marked cars. This is what the data is showing:

1983 = brown
1984-89 = tan
1990-93 = grey

Some of the unmarked cars had the same trim as the marked cars of the same model year. Others not so much, probably due to the fact that the paint color of the unmarked car would not allow the same interior color as the marked cars.

Ford didn't start putting special paint colors on the SSP door tags until the 1989 model year but I believe FHPs with no paint code on their door tag were marked cars and those those with a paint code were unmarked.

94cobra
04-14-2015, 08:47 AM
So it was probably just an unmarked patrol car ordered by Levy County Sheriffs Department..?

1989 Tx DPS SSP
04-14-2015, 08:51 AM
Look at an Auto check on this vehicle. Had an accident in 90 and 93 so you might be able to get info that way through the Accident report case numbers. Has had 3 or 4 owners.

Tom

FoxChassis
04-14-2015, 08:59 AM
MY guess is it was an unmarked FHP first, being that it has a DHSMV sticker, and then an LCSO car second. Some county and city/town/village departments got second-hand cars from states when the states were done with them.

The DSO buck tag would probably tell you whom ordered it, unless it just says "DSO POLICE", but since you said that's gone it's going to be more difficult to figure it out. Tom's suggestion on looking up the accident reports is a good start.

94cobra
04-14-2015, 09:13 AM
Anybody every seen a dash hole like this

ImEvil1
04-14-2015, 10:33 AM
Ford didn't start putting special paint colors on the SSP door tags until the 1989 model year but I believe FHPs with no paint code on their door tag were marked cars and those those with a paint code were unmarked.

Correct.....any of the special paint cars prior to that time had blank paint codes.

ImEvil1
04-14-2015, 10:35 AM
So it was probably just an unmarked patrol car ordered by Levy County Sheriffs Department..?

LCSO probably got it from FHP. I'd do a little more digging, though, on the crash reports that Tom mentioned.

That hole, while not the typical round one, is a common location that FHP used to route the radio wiring.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/images/FHP1187interior.jpg

94cobra
04-15-2015, 09:23 AM
Thanks for the help guys .. I will post more info when I get it

94cobra
07-19-2015, 01:25 PM
Hi guys, finally got around to do the carfax ,so tell me what you think .. I think the car came from troop B.

94cobra
07-19-2015, 01:27 PM
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28HopUp
10-25-2015, 11:28 AM
I'm bumping an old thread, but did you ever order a Marti Report for this car?

https://www.martiauto.com/reports2.cfm

94cobra
10-25-2015, 09:52 PM
No never did a marti report but I will look into it . But with all the proof i have posted already I was hoping to get it on the registry as a unmarked 1988 fhp

94cobra
10-25-2015, 10:02 PM
Here's another pic