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86NeSSP
11-01-2007, 09:01 AM
LINK (http://sspmustang.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5570)

Not a bad looking car.

Matt

predator20
11-01-2007, 09:54 AM
Pic for those not allowed over there.

FHP0665
11-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Pic for those not allowed over there.

I was a little slow and never good at math growing up... by that comment, it almost sounds like there is a little history with some here and that forum.

86NeSSP
11-01-2007, 10:26 AM
I was a little slow and never good at math growing up... by that comment, it almost sounds like there is a little history with some here and that forum.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=602

This should help clear some stuff up for you.

Matt

predator20
11-01-2007, 10:36 AM
Int. pic

mac88chp
11-01-2007, 12:18 PM
Yes, a nice looking car currently but I can't help but feel that it looked loads better in it's original form:

http://images30.fotki.com/v472/photos/4/438439/1955817/86COLO-vi.jpg

FHP0665
11-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Yes, a nice looking car currently but I can't help but feel that it looked loads better in it's original form:

I guess it started it's clone process prior to it's current owner?

ImEvil1
11-01-2007, 12:25 PM
I guess it started it's clone process prior to it's current owner?

The current owner decided to clone it.

I am surprised that it's up for sale. I agree with you, Mike, it was much better as a very rare, CSP car. Hopefully, someone will buy it and restore it.

jarhed123
11-01-2007, 04:01 PM
The current owner decided to clone it.

I am surprised that it's up for sale. I agree with you, Mike, it was much better as a very rare, CSP car. Hopefully, someone will buy it and restore it.

While it did look nice in white I also think it looks very nice as is. I would not have done it but I would not pass it up if I had the funds. He did a great job with it IMO.

ImEvil1
11-01-2007, 04:42 PM
While it did look nice in white I also think it looks very nice as is. I would not have done it but I would not pass it up if I had the funds. He did a great job with it IMO.


If it were one of the many, non-SSP coupes available out there for cloning, I'd agree (except the white needs to be grey, I think).

I wish I had usage numbers for CSP for '86. Personally, I only know of one other '86, and it's been heavily modded/raced. The only other one I knew of was crashed in '04 and totalled out.

NoDrama43
11-02-2007, 10:06 AM
barf

1992b4c
11-02-2007, 08:27 PM
Come on Jim, deep down inside you want the car dont you, but are too afraid to admit it.:Wow:

NoDrama43
11-02-2007, 09:05 PM
Come on Jim, deep down inside you want the car dont you, but are too afraid to admit it.:Wow:

If I didn't have an 86 then I would have liked to have it when it was a CSP car. I have the 86 Idaho car so I don't need another 86.

after the cloning process....I lost interest ....

predator20
11-03-2007, 05:29 PM
ebay link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-SSP-Mustang-5-0-LX-Coupe-Notchback-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ260178463138QQihZ016QQcategoryZ62 36QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

NoDrama43
11-03-2007, 08:40 PM
shame it ended up like that

1992b4c
11-03-2007, 08:50 PM
You know, I am not a big fan of the 1986's. If I was going to get a 4 eye, it would have to be a 1985 model w/ 5spd and 4bbl. Something about the last Mustang ever produced with a 4bbl does something for me. One day I will get one. I was chasing a 1985 Utah one here locally and left notes on the window to no avail though.

Oh well, nice looking clone if you want a clone.

FHP0665
11-03-2007, 10:13 PM
Before I got my '88, I was sitting in the seat of a '86 I believe that I could have got for a steal at the time. There was just something about 225 HP that made me go with the '88 instead.

ImEvil1
11-03-2007, 10:42 PM
I saw an '86 FHP sell at auction in Bartow, FL in 1990. I kick myself for bidding on the '87s (unsuccessfully) and not going after that lone '86.

jarhed123
11-04-2007, 09:48 AM
I am glad I got my '86 years and years later. Now look at it and it is not cloned. But this clone GSP car is a nice looking car eighter way.

scoutdrivinrebel
11-05-2007, 11:35 PM
If I were to buy it, does someone here know enough about the Colorado cars to help me return it to it's "natural state"?

ImEvil1
11-05-2007, 11:42 PM
If I were to buy it, does someone here know enough about the Colorado cars to help me return it to it's "natural state"?

I can help....I have been researching and putting together the equipment for my '83, which would be pretty much the same as this one.

scoutdrivinrebel
11-06-2007, 10:48 PM
I can help....I have been researching and putting together the equipment for my '83, which would be pretty much the same as this one.


Thank you sir. I plan to place a bid. Too bad it will need a repaint to make it right.

ImEvil1
11-06-2007, 11:04 PM
Thank you sir. I plan to place a bid. Too bad it will need a repaint to make it right.

No prob..I just realized...I didn't know the engine had been pulled and the whole compartment painted blue.

Have you seen the photos of the in-service '86s? Good stuff. :)

scoutdrivinrebel
11-06-2007, 11:37 PM
No prob..I just realized...I didn't know the engine had been pulled and the whole compartment painted blue.

Have you seen the photos of the in-service '86s? Good stuff. :)

Dang, you're right. I guess I didnt notice the newer engine bay pic. I did look at the older one with the bay still white. And as David P pointed out to me, the door jambs are blue as well. I like the blue interior though, and those steel wheels kick @$$. That car is going to need a lot of work to return to white. What a shame. Oh well, if I can get it for a reasonable price, it will still be a good deal. Do you know if the decals are permanent or statics?

I think I have seen the 86 in service shots before, but I will take a look again.

ImEvil1
11-06-2007, 11:54 PM
I think the decals are permanent. M-Squad did them for him (copcar.com). Good luck getting it. Good to hear it has a chance to be restored.:thumbsup:

scoutdrivinrebel
11-09-2007, 11:49 PM
I think the decals are permanent. M-Squad did them for him (copcar.com). Good luck getting it. Good to hear it has a chance to be restored.:thumbsup:


Hey Mike...or anyone else. Has anyone here ever run or seen a Carfax on this one. Has it ever been in any accidents? Does it have any rust issues, etc etc.? I am about to email the seller, but wanted to see if anyone here remembered anything about it from it's previous times being for sale. Looks like he really needs to sell it. The price keeps getting lower and lower. I would definitely return it to a Colorado car, so it wont be a cheap investment for me. :(

ImEvil1
11-10-2007, 01:28 AM
I remember the car...and I think it was pretty solid. John M. owned it, too (xxtrpr), so he could really tell you about it.

predator20
11-10-2007, 02:21 AM
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date:: 11/10/2007
Vehicle: 1986 Ford Mustang LX (1FABP26M9GF247072)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
06/27/1986 CO Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER
05/01/1994 LITTLETON, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/30/1994 LITTLETON, CO 737 Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
06/14/1995 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/15/1995 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/15/1995 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/06/1996 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/02/1998 CO Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
01/08/1998 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/09/1998 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/23/1999 CO Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
12/27/1999 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/29/1999 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/09/2000 CO Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
12/13/2000 DENVER, CO 22,551 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:11R484512)
12/13/2000 DENVER, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
06/11/2001 BLOOMINGTON, IL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
07/02/2001 BLOOMINGTON, IL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:T1183656345)
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
02/26/2002 BLOOMINGTON, IL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/06/2003 WISCASSET, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/21/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/02/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/01/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
12/27/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/15/2006 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
02/04/2006 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/03/2007 WOODLAND, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:3478070935124)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
04/24/2007 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/11/2007 WOODLAND, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

scoutdrivinrebel
11-10-2007, 09:24 AM
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date:: 11/10/2007
Vehicle: 1986 Ford Mustang LX (1FABP26M9GF247072)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
06/27/1986 CO Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER
05/01/1994 LITTLETON, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/30/1994 LITTLETON, CO 737 Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
06/14/1995 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/15/1995 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/15/1995 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/06/1996 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/02/1998 CO Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
01/08/1998 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/09/1998 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/23/1999 CO Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
12/27/1999 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/29/1999 ENGLEWOOD, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
12/09/2000 CO Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
12/13/2000 DENVER, CO 22,551 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:11R484512)
12/13/2000 DENVER, CO Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCEEDS MECHANICAL LIMITS
06/11/2001 BLOOMINGTON, IL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
07/02/2001 BLOOMINGTON, IL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:T1183656345)
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
02/26/2002 BLOOMINGTON, IL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/06/2003 WISCASSET, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/21/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/02/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
09/01/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
12/27/2005 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/15/2006 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
02/04/2006 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/03/2007 WOODLAND, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:3478070935124)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
04/24/2007 AUGUSTA, ME Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/11/2007 WOODLAND, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL

Thank You Brian, much appreciated.

86NeSSP
11-10-2007, 05:05 PM
Thank You Brian, much appreciated.

So did you snag this car? It appears that it went for $6500.00.

I hope some one here got it if not you.

Matt

scoutdrivinrebel
11-10-2007, 05:18 PM
So did you snag this car? It appears that it went for $6500.00.

I hope some one here got it if not you.

Matt

Sorry guys, I couldn't do it. I wanted to, but I couldnt make myself pull the trigger. I just didn't want to go through the stress of a complete repaint right now.

FHP0665
11-10-2007, 05:23 PM
Well someone has a new toy... at that price, I don't think they can complain.

scoutdrivinrebel
11-10-2007, 05:41 PM
Well someone has a new toy... at that price, I don't think they can complain.

Nope, it was certainly a good deal for someone. I should have jumped on it.

ImEvil1
11-12-2007, 08:37 PM
I can't say that I blame you. I think that the lack of bidding activity speaks volumes.

I was hoping whoever bought it would restore it, but I don't think it'll happen, from the looks of this thread:

http://www.sspmustang.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5579&page=1&pp=10

EXNODRAMANOTCH
11-13-2007, 10:24 PM
barf
Jim, now is that any way to talk about my latest 86 Mustang? It will be sitting right next to your old LX for the winter. I agree that it would have been better to have had it restored to its original state, but this way it just might be the only undercover SSP in existence! I'm an 86 Mustang collector who has had modified and stock 86 Mustangs since 1986 (8 so far including the clone). I sold 3 this year and bought 2, which brings my collection to 3 (small collection compared to some of you). I had an UHP car that needed a full restoration (sold it to SSPGARY who sold it to NODRAMA, who sold it to someone in FL), which was beyond my budget, patience, and skill set. Everyone enjoys their cars in different ways. I may restore this to its original glory someday, but for now I'll enjoy it as it is. I bet none of you will ever see it in person anyway, so why should it matter what I do with it. Its not like I took an SSP and turned it into a race car. It is still an SSP and I will not misrepresent what it is to anybody. I'm a graphic designer, and I think the GSP look is much more interesting than the plain white variety (no offense to any white SSP owners, and remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder). John did a nice job restoring the car and I think I got a hell of a deal on the car thanks to nobody else bidding on it (my wife was counting on me being outbid too!). If I would have kept the UHP car and spent the money I used on this one for the UHP I would have about a third of a restored SSP and would still have to find the interior equipment plus those dam center caps! I hope I'm allowed to participate here, even though I'm not the SSP purist that many of you seem to be. Thanks for the read,
Bob in MN

NoDrama43
11-13-2007, 10:29 PM
Bob,

my "barf" comment was not directed at you. I think the car should have been restored back to CO specs, not turned into something it isn't. Just my personal opinion.

I find it hard to understand why someone would want to do that to an original unmolested ssp. The guy could have done the same thing to a non ssp car and got the same result.

FHP813
11-13-2007, 10:43 PM
Coming to a show near you, A restored unmolested UHP SSP complete with center caps, radio, siren and plain white paint job. I agree with Jim, a non SSP car could have been used and gotten the same result. Anyway, you got a great deal on a very rare car.

ImEvil1
11-13-2007, 10:44 PM
+1 on the non-SSP car.

Bob,

You are definitely welcome to participate here, and no one will be excluded because of having a different opinion.

scoutdrivinrebel
11-13-2007, 10:55 PM
Jim, now is that any way to talk about my latest 86 Mustang? It will be sitting right next to your old LX for the winter. I agree that it would have been better to have had it restored to its original state, but this way it just might be the only undercover SSP in existence! I'm an 86 Mustang collector who has had modified and stock 86 Mustangs since 1986 (8 so far including the clone). I sold 3 this year and bought 2, which brings my collection to 3 (small collection compared to some of you). I had an UHP car that needed a full restoration (sold it to SSPGARY who sold it to NODRAMA, who sold it to someone in FL), which was beyond my budget, patience, and skill set. Everyone enjoys their cars in different ways. I may restore this to its original glory someday, but for now I'll enjoy it as it is. I bet none of you will ever see it in person anyway, so why should it matter what I do with it. Its not like I took an SSP and turned it into a race car. It is still an SSP and I will not misrepresent what it is to anybody. I'm a graphic designer, and I think the GSP look is much more interesting than the plain white variety (no offense to any white SSP owners, and remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder). John did a nice job restoring the car and I think I got a hell of a deal on the car thanks to nobody else bidding on it (my wife was counting on me being outbid too!). If I would have kept the UHP car and spent the money I used on this one for the UHP I would have about a third of a restored SSP and would still have to find the interior equipment plus those dam center caps! I hope I'm allowed to participate here, even though I'm not the SSP purist that many of you seem to be. Thanks for the read,
Bob in MN

Congrats on getting the car. I was watching it with a fast pulse at the end ready to bid. I just couldnt make myself do it. It wasn't the right car for me, but I'm glad it was for you. I have to agree with Nodrama though, it should have remained a CO car. If I wouldn't have been tasked with reversing all the recent work, it would have been much more attractive to me.

Anyway, Congrats on the fine buy.

Andy
11-14-2007, 12:39 AM
I hope I'm allowed to participate here, even though I'm not the SSP purist that many of you seem to be. Thanks for the read,
Bob in MN
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jarhed123
11-14-2007, 01:49 AM
Great buy whether blue and white or all white!! Anything can be redone just look at the UHP that Bernie (FHP813) has to redo and my car witch was also done. Welcome to the sight.