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28HopUp 03-14-2017 09:47 AM

Mick, I do not recall the reason behind identifying FF234785 as a civilian car. I thought that maybe we had run a Marti Report on it but I did not find one for it. I know we established the VIN range for DSO #72-0406 by finding the last VIN and counting backwards. I will update the Project tonight when I get home to add FF234785.

The Buck Tags were sent to me by a gentleman on Facebook. He also has a 90 CHP that I will be adding to the Project (actually, I have quite a few updates to make).

28HopUp 03-14-2017 10:56 AM

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He also has a 90 CHP that I will be adding to the Project.

To expand upon this, CHPMustang was EXTREMELY lucky to be able to obtain a photocopy of his car's Assignment Card before they were all tossed into the trash by the CHP. Attached is that card, which will be used to add his car to the Project. Note that his car replaced #E435221, which we know to be this car:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211371.htm

As a 1989 model, #E435221 was a run-out by May of 1991 and had racked up over 90K miles in about two years. That isn't remarkable, but it does show how hard these cars were used in a short period.

CHPMustang 03-14-2017 03:01 PM

You guys talkin about me? ;) It's been a whirlwind over the past few days after discovering documents I have had in storage for maybe 2 decades. I didn't know that my specific 85 was on the "wanted list" all this time ;)

28HopUp 03-14-2017 03:34 PM

Glad to see that you were able to iron out your log-in issues. I will get your cars added tonight to the Project. :)

28HopUp 03-14-2017 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55050)
Glad to see that you were able to iron out your log-in issues.

Gosh! You've had that account here since 2006. You've got some catching up to do!!! :D

28HopUp 03-15-2017 12:08 PM

The following pages were added or updated:

1FABP10F5CF234608 1982 "SSP Marketing Vehicle"
1FABP10F7CF234609 1982 "SSP Marketing Vehicle"
1FABP26F1DF165401 1983 Washington
1FAPB26M5FF234785 1985 CHP (DSO #72-0405)
1FABP26M7FF234786 1985 CHP (DSO #72-0406)
1FABP26M5GF257534 1986 Utah
1FACP40E0LF170264 1990 CHP #E389608
1FACP40E0LF163489 1990 NCSHP
1FACP40EXLF183667 1990 SCHP
1FACP40E4MF176490 1991 GSP
1FACP40E8NF140268 1992 SCHP
1FACP40E5PF194596 1993 City of West Jordan, UT



I may clean up the description on the pages for the two 1982 Marketing Vehicles and call each of them a "SSP Marketing Vehicle" since they do not list the SSP option on their Marti Reports. The wording on the Build Sheet for Mike's black 82 clearly shows that it was built in a similar way to the SSPs the CHP ordered earlier that model year.

:2thumbs:

mac88chp 03-15-2017 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55036)
To expand upon this, CHPMustang was EXTREMELY lucky to be able to obtain a photocopy of his car's Assignment Card before they were all tossed into the trash by the CHP. Attached is that card, which will be used to add his car to the Project. Note that his car replaced #E435221, which we know to be this car:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211371.htm

As a 1989 model, #E435221 was a run-out by May of 1991 and had racked up over 90K miles in about two years. That isn't remarkable, but it does show how hard these cars were used in a short period.

Yep, it took the Bakersfield office just over 16 months to roll 97k miles onto my car. Lots of wide open spaces out there in the Central Valley!

ImEvil1 03-15-2017 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55063)


I may clean up the description on the pages for the two 1982 Marketing Vehicles and call each of them a "SSP Marketing Vehicle" since they do not list the SSP option on their Marti Reports. The wording on the Build Sheet for Mike's black 82 clearly shows that it was built in a similar way to the SSPs the CHP ordered earlier that model year.

:2thumbs:

Thanks, Bill, but I wouldn't have spent that much time on it!

I'm good with the build sheet.

NoDrama43 03-16-2017 09:33 AM

It is my understanding that there is concrete documentation designating Mike's 1982 car as a marketing car right?

We know it was built as an SSP based on the build sheet right?

So therefore calling it an Marketing vehicle built to CHP SSP specs would be appropriate.

ImEvil1 03-16-2017 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoDrama43 (Post 55073)
It is my understanding that there is concrete documentation designating Mike's 1982 car as a marketing car right?

We know it was built as an SSP based on the build sheet right?

So therefore calling it an Marketing vehicle built to CHP SSP specs would be appropriate.


Here's my take on it (and why it's listed in my sig as an SSP).

The build sheets I have seen (and held in my hands) for '82 CHP cars do not list the SSP option; only '83-up has that wording on them. I haven't seen the wording on pre-'84 SSP buck tags, either.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info213096.htm

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...06/177006b.jpg

We've used the 4 digit DSO + bucktags, buildsheets, + other documentation to try and establish "SSP status" of many cars over the years. The only items that concretely identify a car with the option are an original window sticker, Eminger invoice, or post '82 build sheet. We are certainly not experts, but this is what we've figured out up to this point, correct?

While the Marti report is a great resource, there have been mistakes/omissions with them. The 16 inch wheels listed on many '92-'93 cars, or as in my '82, the 185/14 wheels, are examples. Not running them down, just pointing out that the reports aren't perfect.

Nowhere in the Marti report for 234608 do any of the SSP options my '82 car has on it appear. The car has single-key locking, for example. I have all 4 original 14 inch SSP wheels. It came with the '82-only certified speedometer. Remote relocated decklid release, etc. We know that these options were not available in regular-production cars. They were, however, included on the '82 CHP cars, as shown in this Eminger invoice:

http://images49.fotki.com/v629/photo...2SSPpg1-vi.jpg

That's why I'm good with the build sheet. It was built just like the CHP units, and we have accepted those are SSPs, with out the SSP nomenclature listed anywhere but the Eminger invoices.


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