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28HopUp 08-18-2013 09:57 AM

Got it! :) Thanks Bobby -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info225739.htm

28HopUp 08-21-2013 03:28 PM

Somebody recently asked how many SSPs we have documented so far. Here is the current count as of today:

1982 . . 22 SSPs
1983 . . 35
1984 . . 73
1985 . .246
1986 . .151
1987 . .389
1988 . .263
1989 . .403
1990 . .271
1991 . .148
1992 . .191
1993 . .377
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. . . 2,569 SSPs Total in Project



We ordered five more Marti Reports this week, thanks in part to Bobby who forwarded some scratch to run 3 reports on likely GSP Mustangs (thanks again Bobby!). I will post those up once they arrive. :)

28HopUp 08-23-2013 03:23 PM

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Thanks go out to Bobby for having three Marti Reports run. Two of them came back as SSP Mustangs, and are part of the GSP group from 1983 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info188925.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info188934.htm


The third report was for a possible GSP from 1987. It was an educated guess which did not pan out for us. Still, the Marti Report DID turn up something interesting (check out the second option listed). :)

nighthawk756 08-23-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 42133)
Thanks go out to Bobby for having three Marti Reports run. Two of them came back as SSP Mustangs, and are part of the GSP group from 1983 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info188925.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info188934.htm


The third report was on a possible GSP from 1987. It was an educated guess which did not pan out for us. Still, the Marti Report DID turn up something interesting (check out the second option listed). :)

Wow....McLaren....what a coincidence! :cool:

28HopUp 08-25-2013 07:43 AM

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I know! :) Not only is it a coincidence to have randomly found an ASC McLaren, but we confirmed that at least some of them were ordered with 6-digit DSO numbers. Attached is a VIN label for another 1987 ASC McLaren that also has a 6-digit DSO.

So a question comes up now regarding our VIN Project. We have been adding a notation to civilian VINs when found to say that they are not SSPs. Should we continue this practice with the ASC McLarens? The VINs for quite of few of them are known.

kapracing 08-25-2013 11:13 AM

I vote yes...

I know our PROJECT is for SSP's
But i think any info we find should be posted up for a more (complete) list.

Just my 2 cents worth:-)

MOstang 08-25-2013 11:56 AM

I agree with Bobby and say why not? Given one might mistake or misrepresent (without putting a little extra effort) a DSO on a car like this as being associated with an SSP.

FoxChassis 08-25-2013 02:38 PM

Until now I had not realized that 1987-1990 ascMclaren convertibles were build on the LX 5.0L coupe body (P40E). I had seen the VINs for these cars before I just had not payed attention that they were P40E. I sent Bill an email last night covering all of the aero asc VINs. The total is over 1800.

kapracing 08-25-2013 03:52 PM

Good stuff!

POOR BILL !!!! :-0
LOL

28HopUp 08-26-2013 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 42170)
I sent Bill an email last night covering all of the aero asc VINs. The total is over 1800.

Once I regained consciousness I was able to process that number in my head. I think I will start off with adding a comment like:

- [ascMcLaren, not a SSP]



...to the cars that are confirmed, as opposed to creating a registry for the cars by listing all of the VINs indicated so far. It is still quite a few cars. And identifying them as not being SSPs is still helpful to our efforts, especially since they came with 6-digit DSO numbers too.

1989 Tx DPS SSP 08-26-2013 08:33 AM

As an '88 ASC McLaren owner , I vote yes. There is interesting info on these cars on the ASC Forum. I have my Marti Report for mine.


Tom

28HopUp 08-26-2013 09:02 AM

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The confirmed 1987-1990 ascMcLaren VINs (those in batches of 3 or more) are now indicated in our Project. :) There was one batch of 1988 VINs which included a SSP Mustang (so far) in addition to the ascMcLaren VINs.

28HopUp 08-30-2013 08:54 AM

This 93 GSA car just popped up for sale, and the seller included pictures of the VIN label and Buck Tags -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info166937.htm


:)

ImEvil1 08-30-2013 10:02 AM

Didn't see the ad. eBay or Craigslist?

28HopUp 08-30-2013 10:23 AM

I found it on ebay using www.dailylister.com to search for "SSP Mustang". Here is the listing -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...orcev4exp=true


As an aside, I just noticed that this thread now has over 20K views with 50 pages of posts! :cool:

28HopUp 09-06-2013 09:53 AM

2 Arizona Mustangs added
 
We just added two Arizona Mustangs to the Project. The first is a 1986 Arizona DPS Mustang, which popped up recently for sale in Michigan (includes a copy of the build sheet) -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info208340.htm


...and the second one is a 1987 in Bright Regatta Blue belonging to 67gt500 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info206337.htm

:)

28HopUp 09-06-2013 02:27 PM

As a follow up to the previous post, Rob aka 67gt500 contacted me about his 87 SSP. He has been unable thus far to verify that his SSP went to the Arizona Department of Public Safety. So I changed the car's page so that the header matches what it says on the Buck Tag - ARIZONA. Hopefully, the car's exact pedigree can be determined in the future.

v8only 09-08-2013 06:59 PM

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i took these off of a very early car in the junkyard years back...not sure if it shows the vin but if this helps at all...the car was around an 83 in a so cal yard

28HopUp 09-08-2013 08:48 PM

On the upper tag in the picture, can you confirm the six numbers starting with 213xxx?

kapracing 09-08-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8only (Post 42444)
i took these off of a very early car in the junkyard years back...not sure if it shows the vin but if this helps at all...the car was around an 83 in a so cal yard

Dang...
Guess that's one less 82 CHP :-(

kapracing 09-08-2013 08:50 PM

Looks lik DSO 72 0102 also Bill :-(

NoDrama43 09-08-2013 08:56 PM

1982 CHP

FoxChassis 09-08-2013 09:44 PM

Looks like 213392.

v8only 09-08-2013 10:19 PM

I was horrified when I saw it in the yards...no rust..body 100% clean...just junked out of someones ignorance


213398


if anyone collects these tags, free to good home...I had to tear them up to remove them, as u see..but the screw was stripped and it was either that or let them go down with the car

v8only 09-08-2013 10:23 PM

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better pic

FoxChassis 09-08-2013 10:33 PM

VIN
1FA = Ford vehicle manufactured in USA
B = active belts, no airbags
P = passenger car
10 = Mustang 2-dr coupe
F = H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
3 = VIN check digit
C = 1982 model year
F = Dearborn Assembly
213398 = 113,398th 1982 Ford scheduled for production at Dearborn Assembly

Buck Tag
MUSTANG = Mustang model line
213398 = 113,398th 1982 Ford scheduled for production at Dearborn Assembly
66B = Mustang 2-dr coupe
F = H.O. 5.0L V8 engine
ST
AC = manual air conditioner
02 = rear glass with defrost, no rear spoiler
HB = heated backlite (rear defrost)
MOD = manual overdrive transmission (Tremec 4-speed SROD)
05 = forward-facing hood scoop
-V = Vanilla interior trim color

1989 Tx DPS SSP 09-08-2013 10:37 PM

Did you notice it saying Drill Quarter Roof I believe?

Tom

v8only 09-08-2013 11:14 PM

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great info...to this day I wish I could have saved it..yes it does say drill

28HopUp 09-09-2013 10:36 AM

THANK YOU for sharing those pictures with us. This car has now been added to our Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info213398.htm

:)


Quote:

Originally Posted by 1989 Tx DPS SSP (Post 42456)
Did you notice it saying Drill Quarter Roof I believe?

Tom, that is consistent with other 82 CHP Mustangs we have seen, like this one:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info213356.htm

Pretty cool! :cool:

ImEvil1 09-09-2013 10:42 AM

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Or this one:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net.../82dsobuck.jpg


Jeremy,

If you don't have any takers for them, I'm game.

28HopUp 09-10-2013 10:03 AM

There is a 1991 South Carolina SSP for sale locally. I have not seen the car (yet), but I have been corresponding with the seller. Once he gives me more details, I plan to post a thread in our for sale section. He did send me some pictures for our Project, which I used to create the following page:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info155984.htm

There are two other SC cars confirmed in the same DSO. It looks like a nice car too. I may catch up with him this weekend at the Faulkner Police Cruise Night in West Chester, PA. Here is the info on that show:

http://www.faulknerauto.com/CruiseNight


:D

28HopUp 09-14-2013 08:30 AM

So while I was attending the Faulkner police car cruise last night, I had the opportunity to speak with a retired Maryland State Police Trooper, who was there to help with the driving duties of one of the several tasty Maryland State Police vehicles on display. He informs me that Maryland actually bought SSP Mustangs, which was news to me. He said that they bought roughly 50 SSPs in 1989. These were not used as patrol vehicles, but instead by detectives and other officers. He was certain of the year, but said the number could have been less than 50, as he remembered it.

Soooooo, it appears as though there is a batch of 1989 Maryland SSPs that are yet to be found. ;) Looking at our VIN Project, there are quite a few possibilities:

-40 VINs starting at 136342
-83 @ 191970
-50 @ 220499
-65 @ 224093
-61 @ 230502
150 @ 238561
100 @ 242294
-46 @ 264885
-43 @ 271841
-39 @ 283972


I think a little time spent researching VIN histories has the potential to identify a block of previously unknown SSPs. We can then order a Marti Report(s) to confirm them as such. How cool would THAT be!?!?! :cool:

FoxChassis 09-14-2013 08:43 AM

Great...more detective work to be done. :( Thanks, Bill! :p

Just kidding. :D I love doing this stuff! :D :D

I love excessive use of smilies too. :yes:

FoxChassis 09-15-2013 08:00 AM

This is not much but none of those 677 VINs have current inspection info in the state of MD.

28HopUp 09-15-2013 08:14 AM

I was hoping that something would "jump of the page" in terms of the research. Since the information came from a retired Trooper, he may be a bit fuzzy on the details (i.e. off by a year or two). Regardless, thank for putting the time in to look for them.

FoxChassis 09-16-2013 10:40 AM

My pool of "free" resources for checking VINs has dropped by one, and that one change is significant. :( On a positive note, I was able to find a VIN check on the MD DOT site. :) http://mva.mdveip.com/

28HopUp 09-16-2013 11:43 AM

Mick, do you want to divide the list of possible VINs and email them to me? It will get done twice as fast that way. We can divide it further if anyone else wants to run VINs to see if a pattern turns up. :)

FoxChassis 09-17-2013 07:44 AM

Bill: I have no VINs on my plate right now to check. Did you have some in mind?

28HopUp 09-17-2013 08:57 AM

None specifically, other than the groups I posted earlier. Of course the Maryland State Police could have purchased the cars under more than one DSO number, with smaller batches of VINs.

FoxChassis 09-17-2013 09:11 AM

Here are the VINs that I have checked on MD DOT site:

http://foxchassis.com/files/ssp/MDInspectionCheck.xlsx

If you have more groups of VINs in mind I can add them to that file.


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