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28HopUp 05-18-2016 11:35 AM

Just added a buck tag photo to this 1988 CHP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info221448.htm

bosskraft.com 05-19-2016 12:16 AM

Cheers, Bill. Thanks for keeping a record of all of this. It's a lot of work.

28HopUp 05-26-2016 03:49 PM

A 1990 NCSHP Mustang recently popped up, which I just added to the VIN Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info135012.htm


And here is another 1990 NCSHP Mustang with the same DSO number, but with a VIN that is over 1,000 numbers earlier -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info133563.htm

So it's the same DSO number, but from different batches of VINs. I've seen this before with some 1984 SSPs, but none this late in production that I can recall. It's an oddity in terms of how Ford sequenced their orders. With there being civilian cars in between these two VINs, it sadly demonstrates that finding a VIN in between two SSPs with the same DSO number does not guarantee that the car is a SSP as well. That is one of the reasons we do not make any assumptions when we add a car to the Project.

28HopUp 05-27-2016 03:47 PM

I wanted to revisit a 1998 SCHP Mustang that we already added to the VIN Project. I believe that it has changed hands (again). Photos of the VIN label and Buck Tags were available, so I added them to the page. It is worth noting that the Buck Tag on this SCHP Mustang says "NORTH CAROLINA" -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info247945.htm

As a refresher, DSO 22 is Charlotte, NC. The other two SSPs in that batch of VINs (which are unconfirmed SCHP cars) also have the same DSO number.

kapracing 05-28-2016 11:24 AM

I wonder how many "typos" we're going to discover? I remember my Dad having a all original 65 coupe that had a "A" code stamped on body but a "C" code on door tag and buck tag. Car was 100% original and never wrecked. I wish he had kept it... I've even owned one of the 1970 Boss mustangs that were misstamped with a 4 instead of 0 for first digit in vin... But anyway I'm sure they're some out there which will be very confusing as they're discovered...

kapracing 06-13-2016 04:54 PM

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Bill,
Here is a Utah SSP I found over on the other site while looking at old threads. Pretty good documentation:2thumbs:

28HopUp 06-13-2016 07:03 PM

Thank you, Bobby!

EDIT: Here is the new link

28HopUp 06-14-2016 03:54 PM

Here is a 1990 Nebraska SSP which we added using photos that appeared online -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info161468.htm


The Buck Tags confirmed this DSO as being ordered by Nebraska, which allowed us to change the page for another SSP with the same DSO number to confirm its agency usage. :)

28HopUp 08-05-2016 10:44 AM

1993 MSHP
 
As most folks here know, Mike recently purchased the silver 1993 Missouri State Highway Patrol Unit #666 SSP. The car was already in our Project with older photos provided by one one of our members a couple of years ago. Mike forwarded along some great agency information and the Marti Report, which I have added to the page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info138824.htm

:2thumbs:

28HopUp 08-05-2016 03:19 PM

For those who are interested, here's the latest break-down by year of the SSP Mustangs confirmed in the Project -

.1982. 28
.1983. 48
.1984. 73
.1985 264
.1986 169
.1987 413
.1988 402
.1989 523
.1990 395
.1991 214
.1992 269
.1993 482
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Tot 3,280

MOstang 08-05-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 53641)
As most folks here know, Mike recently purchased the silver 1993 Missouri State Highway Patrol Unit #666 SSP. The car was already in our Project with older photos provided by one one of our members a couple of years ago. Mike forwarded along some great agency information and the Marti Report, which I have added to the page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info138824.htm

:2thumbs:

Thanks for the update! :thumbsup:

MOstang 08-05-2016 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 53641)
As most folks here know, Mike recently purchased the silver 1993 Missouri State Highway Patrol Unit #666 SSP. The car was already in our Project with older photos provided by one one of our members a couple of years ago. Mike forwarded along some great agency information and the Marti Report, which I have added to the page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info138824.htm

:2thumbs:

Thanks again, Bill....a suggestion would be to re-word the MSHP vehicle number info listed on the page for this new one of mine to be like my white 1993 MSHP SSP...they don't really have a unit number, per se, but the Inventory Number stayed with the vehicle regardless of assigned Trooper.

Missouri State Highway Patrol, Inventory No. P-993

Perhaps as time permits for the 1990 MSHP SSP VIN 1FACP40E2LF141249) Missouri State Highway Patrol P162 I just sold revise it as well Missouri State Highway Patrol P162 to include Inventory No. before the P number listed. Might help viewers to no what that letter/number combo means.

Thanks again!

FoxChassis 08-06-2016 05:38 AM

I am only asking this because others obviously know more about MSHP that I do.

On some of the pages I see "SHP #" which I would assume is an acronym for "State Highway Patrol #". On the other pages I see "P Number" or "P#" which I assume the "P" is shortened from the "SHP" on other pages.

Where did "inventory" come from? I don't see that on any of the pages for this unit. Is that something that came from research on another unit?

28HopUp 08-06-2016 09:16 AM

EDIT:
I just updated the page to change the unit number to an inventory/plate number. I also added some new photos from Fotki. This SSP now has one of the nicest pages in the Project. Reposting the link for convenience -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info138824.htm

28HopUp 08-19-2016 11:35 AM

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A car popped up on FB that is interesting. According to Bobby it served with the Camden County Sheriffs Dept along the most Southern part of Georgia along I-95. Pretty cool! It is the second car in a group of 12 consecutive VINs with some TxDPS cars at the end of the batch.

28HopUp 08-19-2016 01:41 PM

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Here's an in-service photo of one of their two units (50% chance it is the car here). Black-wheel SSPs are my favorite!

kapracing 08-19-2016 02:28 PM

Camden S/O "Drug Iterdiction Team" on I95 bought both with seized drug money. Pretty cool:2thumbs:

nighthawk756 08-20-2016 12:24 AM

Very cool! I swear, it never ceases to amaze me what turns up!

dougphillips48 08-31-2016 03:59 PM

Marti Report for my 93 NCSHP SSP
 
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I've attached the Marti report to add to the file for my car in the VIN Registry. Thanks for all the hard work you do to keep this up to date.

28HopUp 09-01-2016 08:55 AM

The Marti Reports certainly adds to the nice documentation you have on your NC SSP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info198380.htm


Thanks for sharing! :)

FoxChassis 09-05-2016 08:49 PM

Possible 1989 NCSHP
 
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Was searching for LX coupe specific parts on HolladerParts.com to see if I could come up with some P40E VINs and I got a hit...1FABP40E5KF179858. It's in a group of 13 with one unconfirmed NCSHP coming later in the group.

Ref# 424762
Year Model 1989 MUSTANG
VIN 1FABP40E5K5179858
Stock #FG0399
Body Code SDN 2DR
Date Acquired
6/22/2016 4:00:00 AM
Location RIGHTSIDE
Notes 0T1, 2DR, C/R


1FABP40E1KF179856
1FABP40E3KF179857
1FABP40E5KF179858 <<<<<
1FABP40E7KF179859
1FABP40E3KF179860
1FABP40E5KF179861 - North Carolina State Highway Patrol (unconfirmed agency use)
1FABP40E7KF179862
1FABP40E9KF179863
1FABP40E0KF179864
1FABP40E2KF179865
1FABP40E4KF179866
1FABP40E6KF179867
1FABP40E8KF179868
---------13---------

It is being parted out at a salvage yard.

R Strouds Inc. Used Auto
6118 HWY 96 West
Youngsville, NC

FoxChassis 09-05-2016 09:05 PM

Same thing as above but this one is a probable GSA. It is between two from 1990 that have the same DSO. I sent an email to the yard to see if they would send me a pic of the door tag. No pics of the car on the website.

Ref# 361091
Year Model 1990 MUSTANG
VIN 1FACP40E2LF191682
Stock #11116
Body Code SDN 2Dr
Date Acquired 6/9/2011 4:00:00 AM
Location H-25
Notes 1HR DENT, GRAY

...
1FACP40E0LF191678
1FACP40E2LF191679
1FACP40E9LF191680
1FACP40E0LF191681 - F.B.I. (DSO #83-0115)
1FACP40E2LF191682 <<<<<<
1FACP40E4LF191683
1FACP40E6LF191684
1FACP40E8LF191685 - General Services Admin. (DSO #83-0115)
1FACP40EXLF191686
1FACP40E1LF191687
1FACP40E3LF191688
1FACP40E5LF191689
1FACP40E1LF191690
1FACP40E3LF191691
--------86-------

Rick's Used Auto Parts
724 Brandy Camp Road
Kersey, PA 15846

28HopUp 09-06-2016 07:54 AM

Nice job finding those SSPs!

28HopUp 09-12-2016 06:09 PM

DavidC sent me some photos of a rare find - a 1987 Nevada Highway Patrol SSP Mustang, which I added to the VIN Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211193.htm


This is the first 1987 NHP to surface. Note that the now white car also has color-matching wheels. BTW, what is paint code 7B? I did not find it when I did a quick search.

FlyinTiger 09-12-2016 06:23 PM

7B is Dark Shadow Blue, which makes more sense.

28HopUp 09-12-2016 09:15 PM

Thank you!

MOstang 09-13-2016 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 53654)
I am only asking this because others obviously know more about MSHP that I do.

On some of the pages I see "SHP #" which I would assume is an acronym for "State Highway Patrol #". On the other pages I see "P Number" or "P#" which I assume the "P" is shortened from the "SHP" on other pages.

Where did "inventory" come from? I don't see that on any of the pages for this unit. Is that something that came from research on another unit?

I missed this earlier. The MSHP is the initials for the Missouri State Highway Patrol. I've seen people use SHP as a general abbreviation for State Highway Patrol. The MSHP assigns P Numbers to their vehicles and my understanding is is an Inventory. I don't know how they mark them today, but with the SSPs a metal rectangular plate was affixed in the inside driver side door frame (engine side) and that plate was stamped with the P Number.

The P Number is not a unit number or something a dispatch would use to call out to a certain vehicle on their radio. The number on the MSHP license plates is the Badge Number of the respective Trooper assigned to the vehicle. The MSHP SSP paperwork I have for 1993 and 1990 have hand written P Numbers, by the MSHP, written along side VIN numbers. The MSHP no longer has Trooper Assignment records for SSP Mustangs. So...on the surface you can't correlate a P Number to a specific assigned Trooper. But if the vehicle was in an accident and you obtain an Accident Report it will have the P Number, Plate Number and Assigned Trooper info. Photographic evidence can help, in some cases or in some cases verbal input from Troopers who knew a certain P Number and the Assigned Trooper.

For my recently acquired 1993 MSHP, I know the P Number as the plate is still present in the car with the stamping. More importantly, I have direct documentation from when they sold the SSP, from the MSHP Purchase Order paperwork and service documentation confirming that P Number to this VIN number. I have also spoken with the Assigned Trooper gathering much info on this MSHP SSP. Hope this helps.

28HopUp 11-06-2016 11:10 AM

I do not post up every time a SSP is added to the Project, but I did put a few more in this weekend -

1985 OSP
1986 OSP (w/ Special Equip Parts List on DSO 74-0126)
1990 TxDPS
1991 GSP
1993 GSA (1st car found in a batch of 8 VINs)
1993 NC


:2thumbs:

kapracing 11-06-2016 12:23 PM

As always awesome job Bill ! :2thumbs:

kapracing 11-20-2016 10:28 AM

FHP to add
 
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FHP that showed up at Moultrie as well. No signs of ever being SSP remained...

kapracing 11-20-2016 10:31 AM

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Vin . No visible buck tag but haves aluminum cover filling gap between core support and headlight mounting panel...

kapracing 11-23-2016 02:36 PM

Bill,
In the case of the FHP above. It is already verified by paperwork in the vin project. I was not able to get any pics of buck tags or anything other than vin # but would it not be a good idea to post pics in the project for documentation in the future? In case it gets restored in the future and was claimed to be a "all original SSP" for example... Just a thought...

28HopUp 11-23-2016 02:49 PM

Bobby, I agree but I do have a question (or two). Why is the VIN on the dash painted like that in your opinion? The owner would have needed to drop the dash to paint the raised numbers, wouldn't he? It makes me question if the VIN on the dash is original to the car.

ImEvil1 11-23-2016 03:28 PM

Almost looks like it was brought out by sandpaper.

28HopUp 11-23-2016 03:32 PM

You may be right, Mike.

kapracing 11-23-2016 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 54264)
Bobby, I agree but I do have a question (or two). Why is the VIN on the dash painted like that in your opinion? The owner would have needed to drop the dash to paint the raised numbers, wouldn't he? It makes me question if the VIN on the dash is original to the car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 54265)
Almost looks like it was brought out by sandpaper.

Interior was switched out to black, dash and all. Id sayMike is spot on... Looked like the guy sanded the tops of the letters and numbers to make them stand out more...

kapracing 11-29-2016 03:21 PM

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Buck tags from a 84 CHP SSP...

kapracing 11-29-2016 05:42 PM

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Perm 9245
Badge 791
Trooper Chuck Ulveling
post 47
sold 6/30/94
with 109,100 miles

kapracing 12-03-2016 02:21 PM

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Another GSP from Facebook

cars info
Perm/trunk #8319
Trooper Bob Daniels
Badge/ roof # 613
Troop D
Post 4 villa rica
Counties: Carroll, Douglas
Sold with 87,265
cars info
Perm/trunk #8319
Trooper Bob Daniels
Badge/ roof # 613
Troop D
Post 4 villa rica
Counties: Carroll, Douglas
Sold with 87,265

kapracing 12-03-2016 03:49 PM

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Buck tags


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