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28HopUp 05-09-2020 06:46 PM

Jefferson County Kentucky
 
Here are two 1987 SSP Mustangs from Jefferson County Kentucky -

HF151352
HF151353

28HopUp 05-09-2020 06:53 PM

...and here's another interesting pair that we were able to confirm with Marti Reports -

1988 Wisconsin SSP
1989 Thurston County (WA)

28HopUp 05-09-2020 07:54 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here is a likely 1993 Utah SSP -

PF194585

This one was listed for sale in 2009, as seen in the attachments. That would be a STEAL if you could buy it now for $4,700! 'Hope it's still in good condition.

28HopUp 05-09-2020 08:14 PM

3 Attachment(s)
This last one (tonight) is part of the same DSO number as that unconfirmed 1993 Utah SSP in the previous post. This one is far from stock -

PF194594


This SSP was listed on ebay in 2009, as seen on the attachments.

28HopUp 05-13-2020 11:08 AM

Here is an SSP from Pineville, NC that we already had in the Project -

PF202869



We had a folder of images from a 2007 ebay auction on a car that is two digits away from the above car. There was nothing to confirm it as an SSP until we ordered a Marti Report for it. So we can now confirm it as having the same DSO number as the above car. There is nothing to confirm with certainty that it was used by Pineville PD, so it is listed as unconfirmed usage -

PF202871



You may find it interesting that the car in between these VINs has the same DSO number (from the Atlanta office), but this SSP was originally sold to a different agency (Clayton County GA) -

PF202870

28HopUp 05-14-2020 11:25 AM

Here is an interesting car in which we waited 9 years to confirm as it being an SSP -

1992 SSP from Doņa Ana County, NM


This SSP was listed on Ebay in 2011. This car was noted as being in/near Las Cruces, New Mexico, and it has a property tag from Doņa Ana County, New Mexico. Both door moldings also show a cut-out where an agency logo/seal would have been located. We ordered a Marti Report, which is linked on the car's page. Note that it was equipped with the High Altitude Emission System, which is something you rarely see on a SSP option sheet. Pretty cool! :cool:

28HopUp 05-14-2020 11:31 AM

Here's a sad looking SSP that we were able to save through the VIN Project -

1992 SCHP


In 2008, it sold on Ebay for $260. I wonder if this one still looks the same (or worse!), or if it was brought back to life?

28HopUp 05-14-2020 11:41 AM

Here is another one -

1992 Albuquerque SSP (unconfirmed agency usage)


Although there's nothing to confirm the use by this agency, we now know through a Marti Report that it is indeed a SSP.

JerryPHX 05-14-2020 02:06 PM

Good morning Bill,
After seeing all the information you uncovered on the SSP's on this thread alone, I have to ask; were you a Detective during a past life. Man you're GOOD! Keep up the good work, Jerry

28HopUp 05-15-2020 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossed (Post 57213)
Attachment 9753
Here is my son's 1992 SSP Mustang. I believe it was a marked NCSHP car. It was solid black when purchased, the paint was in poor condition, almost stove black. The top of the car looked like the paint was down to the metal, which turned out to be silver paint. It has the NC division of crime prevention sticker on the dash, also the badge/card holder was there also. The last 6 digits of the VIN are 119618. We repainted it, while sanding the car we found silver on the sail panel and in the center, but not above or below. I don't know how to verify that the car was a marked patrol car, but the silver makes me think it was. Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

The above post goes back to page 125 of this thread. I missed adding this SSP til now -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info119618.htm

28HopUp 05-15-2020 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryPHX (Post 57785)
Good morning Bill,
After seeing all the information you uncovered on the SSP's on this thread alone, I have to ask; were you a Detective during a past life. Man you're GOOD! Keep up the good work, Jerry

I don't know about that. :) Thanks for the compliment. I have certainly enjoyed documenting these cars.

28HopUp 05-15-2020 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac88chp (Post 57208)
Working through a bunch of my old photos, I can now match up shots I have of a 1989 CHP that's in the VIN list - 1FABP40E2KF211181 (CHP plate E435128) was converted to a race car and as of 2013 still exists in that form.

Sorry about the delay. I have now added most of your photos to the page for this CHP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211181.htm


Let me know if you'd like for me to add photo credit to you for the pics.

28HopUp 05-18-2020 08:44 AM

1 Attachment(s)
The attached document from Ford is called a "Trailer", which lists some of the information for a car being ordered. In this instance, its for a 1992 Nebraska SSP. Note that the last 8 digits of the VIN are listed, along with two more digits. In this case, '10' is the 10th consecutive VIN as part of this DSO.

I'll get this one added to the Project soon. I just wanted to share this unique document with you.

28HopUp 05-18-2020 09:15 PM

3 Attachment(s)
1990 Utah (unconfirmed)

Attached are some other files that Marcos had saved on this one.

28HopUp 05-18-2020 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 57791)
The attached document from Ford is called a "Trailer", which lists some of the information for a car being ordered. In this instance, its for a 1992 Nebraska SSP. Note that the last 8 digits of the VIN are listed, along with two more digits. In this case, '10' is the 10th consecutive VIN as part of this DSO.

Here's the link to this one -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info148733.htm

So with this car being confirmed as the 10th consecutive VIN in this DSO, we can use this document to confirm the preceding 9 VINs as part of this DSO and add those remaining SSPs to the Project as well.

maxwedge5281 05-30-2020 12:28 PM

93 postal ssp
 
how does one add their ssp to the vin project blue letters list? my number is on the list but not highlighted in blue. thanks

28HopUp 05-31-2020 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwedge5281 (Post 57826)
how does one add their ssp to the vin project blue letters list? my number is on the list but not highlighted in blue. thanks

I used the photo you posted to add your SSP to the Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info166925.htm


If you have any USPS documentation you can post up, I will gladly add it all to your car's page, and update the listing from "General Services Administration" to "United States Postal Service". :)

maxwedge5281 06-01-2020 06:13 AM

3 Attachment(s)
thank you. a couple of pics...unit number id, bill of sale when sold out of service, and a verification of vehicle id stating owner of the vehicle at time of retirement? from the usps.

28HopUp 06-01-2020 08:26 PM

Perfect! Thanks for sharing those photos. I added them to the page and updated the header to USPS. If you have a good, full 3/4 shot of the car, I will add that too.

28HopUp 06-01-2020 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 57793)
Here's the link to this one -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info148733.htm

So with this car being confirmed as the 10th consecutive VIN in this DSO, we can use this document to confirm the preceding 9 VINs as part of this DSO and add those remaining SSPs to the Project as well.

Here is one of the eight new pages we were able to add because of the "Trailer" for the 10th VIN in that batch -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info148724.htm

maxwedge5281 06-02-2020 04:28 AM

1 Attachment(s)
bill here is a pic of the car...93 ssp assigned to the usps. thank you, maxwedge I don't know why the picture is so large!

28HopUp 06-02-2020 08:53 AM

Thanks. I never knew the USPS ran satellite antennae on their rear decklids?!?! ;)

I added the pic to the page.

ssp5.0 06-02-2020 07:59 PM

That's probably why you folks in the USA have better mail service than we do in Canada!

28HopUp 06-30-2020 07:42 PM

We passed another threshold!
 
Here is one of the latest additions to the Project; a 1992 NCSHP SSP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info119588.htm


What makes these latest additions of particular interest is the total cars in the Project -

1982 --- 28
1983 --- 51
1984 --- 82
1985 -- 275
1986 -- 180
1987 -- 442
1988 -- 425
1989 -- 558
1990 -- 419
1991 -- 228
1992 -- 304
1993 -- 513
------------
. . . 3,505 SSP Mustangs confirmed




I'm pretty excited about that number. If you are feeling nostalgic, check out the first few pages of this thread to see how things started out. Mick was EXTREMELY instrumental in getting the data assembled and adding additional information. MANY members submitted photos and research. Several members contributed money to run Marti Reports. This ties in with our efforts with Kevin Marti of Marti Auto Works, which has been a mutually beneficial relationship.

So here's a HUGE SHOUT OUT to everyone involved! Thank you!!!

28HopUp 07-01-2020 11:46 AM

After a discussion on FB with GregW, I went through our VIN pages and counted the consecutive unit number batches where a SSP has been documented. Knowing that SSPs were generally produced in batches, I figured that we could identify the batches with known SSPs to come up with an estimate for how many SSPs may be grouped together using the information in our VIN Project.

It is important to note that there are three critical flaws with this logic:
  1. We know that civilian V8 coupes were sometimes thrown into the mix of known SSP batches. So far, we have seen this occur prior to or just after Ford ran a batch of specific DSO cars. So it is reasonable to believe that there are an unknown quantity of civilian cars as part of the CUN batches containing SSPs.
  2. For the most part, our Project only lists CUN batches for 3 or more cars. We know that Ford also produced SSP Mustangs in singles or pairs, but it is uncertain how many SSPs were produced in single/double groups. Only known singles or doubles are included in the estimate.
  3. There are surely CUN batches that we have not identified yet as containing SSP Mustangs, so obviously those batches cannot be included in the estimate at this time.

So using this flawed estimate, we can account for an estimated 10,404 SSP Mustangs.

Despite the flaws, this estimate provides a quick glimpse into how many cars our VIN Project may be able to document. This number will only increase as more SSP Mustangs turn up. When I did this same exercise in 2012, there were only 8,300 SSP Mustangs estimated. But even at 10,404 units we are still quite a bit short of the 15K units that have been widely accepted for SSP production.

NOTE: This is only an estimate and should not be taken as a claim that only 10K were produced by Ford. Unless some documentation miraculously is discovered, we will never know the exact number of SSP Mustangs produced by Ford.

28HopUp 07-12-2020 09:46 AM

NOT the movie car!
 
Thanks to MikeM for providing two vintage photos of a true FBI Mustang. It is a SSP that has the same DSO number as other confirmed Government cars. This one is interesting because it was used at Quantico for EVOC training purposes.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info161602.htm


Note, this is not the car used in the movie "Silence of the Lambs", which was a civilian coupe. As I understand it, that car and this SSP were both crushed.

28HopUp 07-12-2020 12:19 PM

32 Newly-Found "Likely" 1988 FHPs
 
2 Attachment(s)
The first attached photo was posted on FB (thanks Mick!). It is the Buck Tags from a 1988 FHP which is contained in a batch of SSP Mustangs from various agencies. Thirty-two of the VINs near this FHP have "POLICE" branded titles according to the Florida DMV website. By getting Marti Reports to confirm matching DSO numbers, we should be able to add all 32 VINs to the Project.

:)

28HopUp 08-01-2020 12:15 AM

GSA Car Estimate
 
I was messaging with a guy on FB who recently bought a 1990 SCHP Mustang (it's already in the Project). In talking about order quantities by agencies, it got me thinking about the Federal / GSA cars. Although it is unknown how many of these mostly mysterious cars were ordered, we can make an educated guess. By looking at VIN groups with known GSA cars, we can add up the batches to estimate how many SSPs may have been ordered. Using this method, an estimated 474 SSP Mustangs were ordered by the Federal government. That would make the Federal government the 5th largest single purchaser of SSP Mustangs (behind CHP, FHP, TxDPS, and SCHP).

It's just a guess based upon current information. As more cars surface this number may change. But pretty cool, huh?

28HopUp 08-10-2020 10:01 AM

1983 Sequatchie County Sheriff SSP
 
This 1983 SSP was posted on FB, being owned by the son of the former Sequatchie County Sheriff -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info182433.htm

28HopUp 08-10-2020 10:07 AM

Marti Report Added to 1990 NCSHP
 
The Marti Report popped up for a SSP already listed in the Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info163493.htm

28HopUp 08-10-2020 10:17 AM

SCHP #2-12-183 Update
 
SCHP #2-12-183 recently changed hands. The car had been posted up in 2019, as seen here:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=6854

I've been chatting with the new owner, who is really into the new car and its history. I encouraged him to join up here. Although the car was already listed in our Project, he sent me the VIN label which I added to the car's page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info183650.htm

28HopUp 08-10-2020 10:36 AM

1988 CSP
 
This 1988 Colorado State Patrol SSP popped up for sale on FB. A tree fell on it during a recent storm, causing damage to the passenger side 1/4 panel and roof. The car is a roller and isn't too far gone to be saved. The owner is struggling whether to fix it, sell it, or part it out. Regardless, it will be preserved in our Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info220636.htm

For fun, I decided to count the VINs in each batch of confirmed CSP Mustangs, as follows:

1983 - 06 VINs
1985 - 08
1986 - 20
1988 - 23
1989 - 26
1990 - 19
-----------
. . . 102 Est'd Colorado State Patrol SSP Mustangs


Keep in mind that it is possible and likely that not every VIN in each batch was ordered by the CSP. Also, it is entirely possible that we do not know of all VIN batches ordered by the CSP. The above number is only an estimate.

NOTE: This method can be used to estimate how many units were ordered by other agencies as well. Look for future posts on this subject.

28HopUp 08-10-2020 10:52 AM

1993 Fruitland Park, Florida PD
 
This 1993 SSP was recently listed for sale. The seller claims it was purchased originally by the police department in Fruitland Park, FL -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info205173.htm

The seller's wife reportedly did not like the car and had it painted blue. :eek: It looks to be a solid project for the new owner.

28HopUp 08-11-2020 08:31 AM

Here's a 1988 FHP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info240811.htm

The owner has had the car almost 20 years and contacted me on FB to ask about it. :)

28HopUp 08-11-2020 10:38 AM

Let's Look at Nevada HP SSP Mustangs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 57947)
NOTE: This method can be used to estimate how many units were ordered by other agencies as well. Look for future posts on this subject.

1985 - 03 VINs
1986 - 10
1987 - 10
1988 - 08 *
1989 - 13
1990 - 09
1992 - 21
1993 - 08
-----------
. . . .82 Est'd Nevada Hwy Patrol SSP Mustangs


Most of the confirmed 1988 NHP cars are part of a much larger batch of VINs, so I only counted the immediate VINs that are part of the three confirmed cars. There is another confirmed 1988 NHP car ordered/produced later that is part of a larger batch of VINs. So it is highly probable that there were more than 8 units ordered that year (someone with CARFAX access could run those VINs to see which ones have ties to Nevada in their title history). Also, the same disclaimers listed for the estimate on the Colorado cars apply here as well - it's only an estimate. But it is fun to consider.

28HopUp 08-21-2020 02:04 PM

1991 CHP #E__8998
 
For whatever reason, 1991 CHP Mustangs are fairly uncommon in the SSP hobby despite there having been 230 supposedly ordered that year. The car below is the 7th one added to the Project, but 2 of those were added through use of Marti Reports alone. This one popped up for sale on FB -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info192842.htm

The only other 1991 CHP with confirmation of its unit number is actually one digit off of this car (#E__8997), as seen here. Can someone identify what would have been the 2-digit prefix number for the E-plates on 1991 CHP Mustangs?

28HopUp 09-06-2020 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 57971)
The only other 1991 CHP with confirmation of its unit number is actually one digit off of this car (#E__8997), as seen here. Can someone identify what would have been the 2-digit prefix number for the E-plates on 1991 CHP Mustangs?

One of our long-time members came through! Mick C. aka mac88chp confirmed that the 1991 CHP Mustangs had an E-plate prefix of 38, so the two 91's in the Project have been updated. Thanks Mike!

28HopUp 09-10-2020 10:47 PM

1990 Louisville Division of Police SSP
 
This one was posted for sale -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=6964


...and was added to our Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info141233.htm

28HopUp 09-18-2020 12:10 PM

This 1988 CHP car showed up for sale on FB. The seller had a photo of the original Permit To Transfer Legal Ownership of State Vehicle, which names the CHP and identifies the VIN and Unit Number. I have not seen that type of documentation before.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info221545.htm

MOstang 09-19-2020 11:49 AM

As much as people complain about Facebook, it has surfaced countless SSP photos and info, due to accessibility/ widespread adoption.


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