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GSPI 10-03-2011 09:22 PM

1986 Idaho SSP
 
...and so it begins... the mystery... the intrigue... the project has landed...

... look what showed up today...

http://images51.fotki.com/v103/photo...SC_1858-vi.jpg
http://images59.fotki.com/v684/photo...SC_1859-vi.jpg
http://images51.fotki.com/v102/photo...SC_1860-vi.jpg
http://images51.fotki.com/v628/photo...SC_1863-vi.jpg

...yeah I know... the tire is flat... needs a new one...

http://images15.fotki.com/v2/photos/...SC_1864-vi.jpg

... a little cleanup and it should be good..

http://images59.fotki.com/v255/photo...SC_1866-vi.jpg
http://images54.fotki.com/v627/photo...SC_1867-vi.jpg

...and so begins another project for me!
http://images108.fotki.com/v360/phot...SC_1868-vi.jpg

Thanks to ChrisL for a wonderful starting point!:thumbsup:

...and a sneak peek at what else I got delivered on friday..

http://images54.fotki.com/v627/photo...SC_1857-vi.jpg
http://images57.fotki.com/v256/photo...SC_1849-vi.jpg

I figure I should throw this one in too...

http://images46.fotki.com/v1441/phot...SC_7292-vi.jpg

Now if I can get them all done by next show season...I must have lost my marbles.:cool:

badbrad 10-03-2011 09:26 PM

awsome looking ssp
 
love the colour, cant wait for the progress.

GSPI 10-03-2011 09:33 PM

Thanks! It actually is supposed to be black with a white roof and should look something like this when it's done:

http://images54.fotki.com/v627/photo...86_SSPM-vi.jpg

NoDrama43 10-03-2011 09:39 PM

very nice....glad to see it made it ok !!

ImEvil1 10-03-2011 09:57 PM

Congrats!

MOstang 10-04-2011 08:01 AM

Congrats...will be fun to see that one returned to in-service specs.

28HopUp 10-04-2011 08:37 AM

Greg, congrats on the new SSP!!! :D That'll be beautiful when you are done with it.

GSPI 10-04-2011 09:40 AM

Thank you guys for the comments! I have been doing a considerable amount of research so far and found a few pertinent items for this car.

1. I found that the property tag was on this one at one point on the left side of the dash of the car. I need to do some more work with my CSI sirchie light to see if I can pull the numbers off of the dash.
2. I found the abrasion from the trunk lip mounted antenna on the rear window trim. I also was looking for an antenna mount on the roof of the car but I might be mistaken on that one as it's where the dome light frame work is at not the divot for the antenna. If that is the case, it looks like ISP used 150 mHz VHF frequencies not like the current UHF channels that they have now and as told to me by the fleet garage. Looks to be that the car would have been equipped with a beige colored casing GE Phoenix SX VHF radio (dark gray casing wasn't in production until after 1987) and the trunk lip mounted antenna with the GE microphone clip mounted on the driver's side of the shifter console. No signs of a CB radio mounted in there either confirming my suspicion of the VHF radio setup.
3. I found the divot on the transmission hump from the gun lock that is behind the front seats and in front of the back seat.
4. I found the mounting points for the roll bar that was in this car.
5. I found that this car had a fuel pump replaced in it and has a cutout in the trunk floor from ISP.

Parts I have so far:
1. Door hinge rebuild kit.
2. Trooper KR radar
3. Rear Deck lights (they were actually fog lamps with wig/wags in the circuit)
4. Unitrol control head
5. High beam wig/wag control for front lights
6. Wig/wag control for deck lights
7. Replacement exhaust with DynoMax turbo mufflers. (mac88chp, this is the news release as to where the exhaust is going on!)
8. Gun Lock

Parts I still need:
1. Unitrol 80 series Amplifier/Siren
2. Blue Whelen Responder with reflector (I'm chasing a few but if you got one speak up!)
3. Dash pad
4. Hood cable release assembly
5. Driver's seat upholstery
6. Carpet
7. Emblem kit (I found it new at FMR)
8. SSP Hubcaps
9. Spare SSP rim and tire
10. Trunk Mat
11. Tires!!
12. New battery cables

I'm sure that I'm missing stuff too but I'll keep working on my list of fixes. Get it rolling first so that we can get bodywork done and then go gangbusters on the rest!

Time to get to work! :thumbsup:

ChrisL 10-04-2011 11:03 AM

Great to see this car finally in your hands Greg! Your detective work is incredible, and will really pay dividends once you start the restoration. I sure can't wait to see it all come back together!

ssp91ssp 10-04-2011 11:06 AM

Congrats! Greg
Thats a great looking 86!

You may of mentioned already???? But is this the first SSP for ya? and may I say it won't be your last ! you are hooked my friend!;)

GSPI 10-04-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ssp91ssp (Post 30032)
Congrats! Greg
Thats a great looking 86!

You may of mentioned already???? But is this the first SSP for ya? and may I say it won't be your last ! you are hooked my friend!;)

Thanks again and yes this is my first SSP. I've had an 88 Saleen (#218) for a short while many years ago. I was talking with ChrisL yesterday and was telling him what an adrenalin rush I got when the car was running. The exhaust tone makes you want to drive it, and its a copcar too! What more could you want right? I've built many police sedans but this is my first SSP. I wanted to give this a try with an unusual state agency too.

By the way, I also see that this car was in service for 10 years from my initial title search. Also, I've got Idaho SP trying to locate the correct group of trooper ID numbers (license plates) for this batch of cars.

Pretty exciting stuff to hunt down!

ssp91ssp 10-04-2011 11:51 AM

Best of luck on the history hunt! the fun part.:D

mac88chp 10-04-2011 01:33 PM

Great news, this should be a wonderful project for you...let the fun begin! :2thumbs:

Rhino 10-04-2011 04:25 PM

Greg - congrats!! You finally got one!!

Enjoy. :D

Mustang Kid 10-04-2011 04:45 PM

I love the long stripes on the IHP cars! Neat SSP too:2thumbs:
I'd like to find an early 80s (80, 81) IHP Gran Fury. They are neat cars.

OSP959(R) 10-05-2011 11:24 AM

Greg!!!

I'm glad to see you finally got a SSP. With your background, I'm sure it's going to turn out fantastic!

Yours will be done before mine. I have a couple of vehicle projects ahead of it, and my 16 year old daughter is bugging me to buy her a car.

Can't wait to see the updates on your skunk patrol. (J/K)

GSPI 10-06-2011 10:00 AM

Thanks Jim and the rest!

I look forward to getting this one done as it's a cool car! Skunk Patrol eh? Interesting... might make for a nickname maybe??

ChrisL 10-06-2011 10:53 AM

Why isn't the car completely torn apart yet Greg? What are you waiting for? :D

GSPI 10-06-2011 12:40 PM

Smart aleck...:headscratch:

OSP959(R) 10-06-2011 11:56 PM

Ya Greg,

Shouldn't there be a primered car on the Spydar by now???

J/K

Rhino 10-06-2011 11:58 PM

Yeah yeah....Spydar...that's the ticket.

GSPI 10-07-2011 12:55 AM

Geez... I haven't even introduced the Spydar® MIS® system to this area here!?

The car was hooked and sent to get a usable tire and fluids changed. I want to make sure I have a reliable car available! That portion should be done as I get back from Michigan.

GSPI 10-08-2011 05:12 PM

Did some digging around the car today...

http://images51.fotki.com/v303/photo...SC_1884-vi.jpg

http://images58.fotki.com/v156/photo...jpg?1318107718

http://images58.fotki.com/v279/photo...SC_1887-vi.jpg

http://images9.fotki.com/v178/photos...SC_1888-vi.jpg

http://images108.fotki.com/v205/phot...SC_1889-vi.jpg

Could not find the roll bar mounting points for some reason!? Looks like the support was being removed too for some reason...

However did find the demarkation of the line for the white roof though...

http://images32.fotki.com/v1110/phot...1877Mod-vi.jpg

Looked at the damage around the battery tray and have to say that it's battery acid...

http://images107.fotki.com/v71/photo...SC_1893-vi.jpg

Started looking for the build sheet too...

http://images51.fotki.com/v282/photo...SC_1896-vi.jpg

http://images15.fotki.com/v2/photos/...SC_1897-vi.jpg

...marks from the trunk lip mounted antenna...

http://images51.fotki.com/v103/photo...1908Mod-vi.jpg

.....found the catalytic recall so it's already been changed..

http://images51.fotki.com/v299/photo...1921Mod-vi.jpg

more to come... just got to do some honey do's now...

Rhino 10-08-2011 08:43 PM

If a Setina roll bar mount, you should have two to three holes from the lower mounts where the floor pan wells come up right in front of the lower part of the rear seat.

And they would have had L shaped brackets that would have gone over the seatbelt bolt up on the trim panel of the B pillar along with two screw holes such as this:
http://images24.fotki.com/v872/photo...1407056-vi.jpg

ImEvil1 10-08-2011 09:04 PM

Is that a partition bracket?

Rhino 10-08-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 30206)
Is that a partition bracket?

It is. Shot when we mounted up my 87 with one. They used it both with the roll bars and the partitions.

GSPI 10-08-2011 10:07 PM

Very cool information Ryan. I have to look more closely...

http://images108.fotki.com/v191/phot...SC_1883-vi.jpg

Nope, not there. I see no indication that this specific car had a roll bar in it.

Looks like the carpet was sprayed black too...

http://images58.fotki.com/v513/photo...jpg?1318125093

I also have to wonder if the radio was mounted where the AM/FM radio should have been too?

http://images110.fotki.com/v1585/pho...SC_1901-vi.jpg

Demarkation on the passenger side was not as pronounced but is there...

http://images108.fotki.com/v191/phot...SC_1904-vi.jpg

Also found where it ran up over something too..

http://images58.fotki.com/v156/photo...SC_1939-vi.jpg

Now I have to figure if I can even use the exhaust system that is on it at all...

http://images57.fotki.com/v221/photo...SC_1941-vi.jpg

I do have another one though...

http://images58.fotki.com/v154/photo...aust001-vi.jpg
http://images44.fotki.com/v1448/phot...aust002-vi.jpg
http://images57.fotki.com/v81/photos...aust006-vi.jpg

Even have the catalytics too...

http://images51.fotki.com/v282/photo...aust007-vi.jpg

So what say you? Should I go with "offroad" or not?? :headscratch:

GSPI 10-08-2011 10:19 PM

... oh yeah, forgot to mention it... It's getting worked on mechanically right now...

http://images59.fotki.com/v683/photo...SC_1949-vi.jpg

Exhaust will be put on and a temporary tire to get the car to roll around for now. New tires will be on it after the paint and body work get done...

GSPI 10-09-2011 12:03 AM

More research...

http://images57.fotki.com/v80/photos...041MOD2-vi.jpg

No roll bar apparent in this car... and it has mudflaps too. Makes me wonder...:headscratch:

Mustang Kid 10-09-2011 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSPI (Post 30209)
So what say you? Should I go with "offroad" or not?? :headscratch:

I say factory exhaust. Just looks better IMO.
I spy a 71 GTO in the mech. shop photo:) and that shift knob is a keeper:thumbsup:

ImEvil1 10-09-2011 12:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhino (Post 30208)
It is. Shot when we mounted up my 87 with one. They used it both with the roll bars and the partitions.


Good for cages, not so much for bars. Setina's partitions aren't truly roll-bars, though. Here is the Lakewood bar in my CSP for comparison. It's a 4-point bar (bare minimum, no forward supports). and is routed out through the rear package tray and welded in.

GSPI 10-09-2011 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30212)
I say factory exhaust. Just looks better IMO.
I spy a 71 GTO in the mech. shop photo:) and that shift knob is a keeper:thumbsup:

Actually a Lemans convertible that's been there for years. I guess the question is more if I should use the h-pipe or the cats in that extra exhaust system that I'm planning on mounting up.

mac88chp 10-09-2011 12:15 PM

Greg, did you reach up under the RH interior quarter panel cover and feel around for a build sheet? They have been located there taped to the sheet metal.

GSPI 10-09-2011 12:19 PM

I've pulled the carpet back some but found padding packets only so far while feeling around in the footwell. I figure once I get the mechanicals done on it, I'll have a better time getting to the build sheet. I did try in the RH side but didn't try the LH side. I'll find it if it's there just have to dig in deeper. Looks like it's the original carpet and has only been dyed black so I think it's got to still be there.

ssp91ssp 10-09-2011 12:29 PM

Greg ..... That build sheet is hiding from you.. soon you will find it.;)

Here are more mounting examples of roll bars.. my 88 CSP
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/s...P/101_3996.jpg
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/s...P/101_4003.jpg
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/s...P/101_4001.jpg
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/s...P/101_3995.jpg

GSPI 10-09-2011 12:44 PM

Hector,

Setina indicated to me that they are the supplier of record for the "rollbar" and it was supposed to be a 4 point bar mounted somewhat like this:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...0&d=1315364872

No matter, I cannot find the divots or holes or anything associated with a rollbar so my best guess is that this car was not equipped with one at all.

...but I will find that buildsheet... it can run but it can't hide!;)

GSPI 10-11-2011 09:02 PM

As a brief update for those that mentioned it, I got the direct word from ISP today that the skull shift knob is definitely not something added by a trooper (they were very emphatic about that too). They were only allowed to install a CB radio and nothing more in their vehicles! So time to get a factory correct shift knob. I just got the Whelen Responder, mike clip and rear antenna on eBay in the past day or so and I'm only needing the GE radio itself that I see on eBay and the reflector of course for the responder light. I can say that I'm done with getting equipment from what I see in general. Now for more pressing matters!

Mustang Kid 10-11-2011 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSPI (Post 30323)
As a brief update for those that mentioned it, I got the direct word from ISP today that the skull shift knob is definitely not something added by a trooper (they were very emphatic about that too). They were only allowed to install a CB radio and nothing more in their vehicles! So time to get a factory correct shift knob. I just got the Whelen Responder, mike clip and rear antenna on eBay in the past day or so and I'm only needing the GE radio itself that I see on eBay and the reflector of course for the responder light. I can say that I'm done with getting equipment from what I see in general. Now for more pressing matters!

Like finding te build sheet:)

GSPI 10-11-2011 09:44 PM

That and the mysterious missing time between June 27, 1986 delivery at the Ford dealership (I'm asking that question too as to who was the supplier of these cars) and May 31, 1996 where the car did not show any title, registration or any activity at all on Autocheck. Any other suggestions for finding this information?

NoDrama43 10-11-2011 10:02 PM

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that is the time it was in service....... Idaho SP and then maybe somewhere else (local or county, or college for example like my 91 GSP car) ........... prior to being sold to the first civilian owner.

My 91 GSP was taken out of service and transferred to a Georgia State owned college and in service there until sold in 2006.


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