Total 1982-93 SSP Production Numbers
 

According to a Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords article there were 5,767 (plus the unknown 1983 number out of the 448 sedan total) SSPs built. Article has total for each year except 1982-83 (I added in the 406 for 1982).
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...les/index.html
Other sources (2 main SSP web sites) state approx. 15,000. Anybody know the real number?

Total for '83 is there. Says 356. Where did you see 448 total sedans? That article says 1,170.

Those MM&FF articles were written by Peter C. Sessler. Same guy that put out the Fox-Body Mustang Recognition Guide (co-authored with the late Thomas A. Shreiner) and the Mustang Red Book. Sessler also put out another book I have, the Illustrated Mercury Buyer's Guide.

I've been working on collecting VINs over the past couple of years. I have gone through 1981 through 1986 Capri and 1981 through 1987 Mustang. Out of all of the VINs I have, the ONLY number that matches is the total '84 Turbo GTs (but even the total hatchbacks and convertibles don't match).

Sorry, I meant 1984 (SSP N/A, LX 5.0 - 448 sedans)

The numbers in that article are definitely skewed. Stew Jones, before he closed down shop, put them together based on the data he has (or had). He sorted the VINs by blank paint code. That means that he only captured special paint cars (either solid or two-tone) and that also means he captured ANY special paint car; not necessarily SSPs. It also doesn't take into account all of the non-special paint (stock, solid colors) cars. We talked about it before he disappeared.

You're looking at the incorrect columns and rows.

The first column (where you see "N/A") is for 5.0L convertibles (P27M).
The second column (where you see "448") is for 5.0L sedans (P26M).
The last row is for totals and it says 1,395 for P26M.

Yes, I see they changed the order of the headers at the top of the chart from 1983 to 1984.
448 is the total for 1984 SSPs.

No...it isn't. Those numbers aren't correct.

I was referring to the info in the article. Obviously NOBODY knows the real numbers at this time.

THANKS for the clarification. If ANYONE knew the REAL numbers at this time, it would have been posted HERE long ago.

SORRY, that bringing up the topic got you SO upset.

I'm not upset. This issue has been discussed here previously. If you haven't figured it out by now, we are all about trying to post the most correct information that we can on this site.

All I was trying to do was find out why there was such a big difference between the numbers from different sources. I have figured out that this site is all about the most correct information, as that is why I posted the question here in the first place. If the issue was discussed earlier and I missed it, I apologize.

No prob....do a search for Stew Jones and you can look at the old thread (s). As for the difference, I explained it in my post in this thread. Many agencies ordered solid color cars, such as your old CSP car, that weren't counted in those numbers that were posted in the article.

I searched under "Stew Jones" and this is the only post of 3 that has info on the solid color cars, for which I thank you. The other 2 posts only mention his name in reference to a specific SSP and 83 door panels.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ght=stew+jones

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ght=stew+jones

You might want to do the same search over on the other SSP forum. We talked about it awhile ago, so it may have been when I was still over there.

Stew used to sell sheets sorta like what Marti puts out for the older cars. I heard he got jammed up and had to stop.

Stew got his info from Ford's archives through somebody that worked there. He didn't get it through any "legal" channels (i.e. paid Ford royalties for it) like Marti Auto Works did and does. When Ford found out about it they told him in order to continue, he had to give production numbers by paint and interior trim type/color for free to anyone that requested it via e-mail. That was done through his website, the Third Generation National Registry (thirdgenerationnewsandbeyond.com). If anyone requested a more detailed report (production start and stop for that body type, how many of the same car were made on that day, etc.) he could charge only a nominal fee (no more than $10?) for "time and materials". He stopped doing it maybe 7 years ago? There is now another guy doing the same thing. His name is Terry McCoy. He and Stew are associated in one way or another. I know they were both third generation MCA judges at the same time a few years back. Don't know how else they know each other. Terry McCoy runs at least one registry (1985 GT Convertible), maybe more. I have only seen the form to fill out to request a report from him, not any actual reports. He currently charges $25 for a report.

Thanks for that info, Mick. I ordered reports for all of my cars from Stew a few years back, which is how I got to talking with him about his SSP numbers. Oddly enough, he used to live on the same street that my mom did.

I'd be interested to know if Terry could help us with our VIN project (has any DSO data with what he has).

Terry McCoy's contact email is hot35ann at aol dot com.

I'll shoot him an email, thanks.