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MOstang 11-02-2010 07:57 PM

1993 Georgia SSP on CL
 
This is not my listing....presently on Craigslist

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/2035655108.html

1993 Mustang LX Coupe SSP - $6450 (Woodstock)

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Date: 2010-10-31, 8:17PM EDT
Reply to: sale-rzp3k-2035655108@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

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1993 Mustang LX Coupe SSP #119 Georgia State Patrol, DSO POLICE buck tags present on core support

112k miles, 5.0 Liter V8, Automatic, Power Windows, Locks, AM/FM Radio (also wired for Police radio but not installed)

Black Cloth Interior, in very good shape.

Exterior is Navy. Clayton County Georgia Police painted the vehicle navy blue to use in undercover operations.

The Georgia State Patrol graphics are static cling and are not permanent on the vehicle.

The blue lights have been reinstalled but are not hooked to a switch (per Georgia law). Both sets are only bolted into their original housing are also very easily removed (both sets still work).

Vehicle runs well with no mechanical issues, A/C works.

There are many historical and vehicle specific Police documents with the car, including the Severe Service manual, many Clayton County Police documents, GSP inspection sheet from 1993, and the GSP Emergency Light Certification sticker, also the original "Property of Clayton County" sticker is still on the vehicle.

It's a nice car, especially for prior Police use, no holes in the dash or roof because of the undercover use.

Feel free to ask any questions. I would be more than happy to show the vehicle any time.

(7)-235-8444 (please text first or leave a voicemail)
Location: Woodstock
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

ImEvil1 11-02-2010 08:09 PM

Ummm....that's not a Georgia Highway Patrol car.

FHP813 11-02-2010 08:33 PM

Did GSP even buy Mustangs in 1993?

MOstang 11-03-2010 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FHP813 (Post 22531)
Did GSP even buy Mustangs in 1993?

I don't know the answer to that but sounds like it has Buck Tags and some other documentation that could be used for verification. Mentions a municipality as well in the listing.

ImEvil1 11-03-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOstang (Post 22553)
I don't know the answer to that but sounds like it has Buck Tags and some other documentation that could be used for verification. Mentions a municipality as well in the listing.

Buck tags say "DSO Police", and the documentation the seller posted is a GSP emergency light permit which can be explained here:
http://www.dps.georgia.gov/00/articl...627488,00.html

Since he found pay stubs in the vehicle from Clayton County, I'd bet it was a Clayton County PD car. A call to the PD would probably help clear it up. http://www.claytoncountyga.gov/depar...ic-safety.aspx

BTW....officers in GA are not allowed to run traffic out of unmarked cars.
http://law.justia.com/georgia/codes/...0/40-8-91.html

MOstang 11-03-2010 08:45 PM

Nice detective work! :2thumbs:

FHP813 11-03-2010 08:48 PM

Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Getting to the bottom of things and learning something in the process.

ImEvil1 11-03-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOstang (Post 22556)
Nice detective work! :2thumbs:

Thanks...I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ;)

Seriously, someone over there might want to help him out with it a little. It's only been two months since he first posted it up.

ImEvil1 11-03-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FHP813 (Post 22557)
Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Getting to the bottom of things and learning something in the process.

x1000. I learn new stuff here all the time, too. Probably one of my favorite parts of this hobby.

MOstang 11-09-2010 07:52 PM

I inquired several days in the .org thread that I started if he had any GSP documentation that included his VIN as confirmation. Haven't noticed a reply.

ImEvil1 11-09-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOstang (Post 22632)
I inquired several days in the .org thread that I started if he had any GSP documentation that included his VIN as confirmation. Haven't noticed a reply.

Not surprising. I think the guy may have genuinely been confused by the GSP permit paperwork and was just rolling with that info.

MOstang 11-09-2010 09:22 PM

That would be my guess as well Mike.

FHP813 11-20-2010 12:05 AM

Apparently it doesn't matter what anyone says, the car is on ebay listed as a GSP\Clayton county car. If it sells I hope the new owner isn't too upset when it doesn't turn out to be legit. :No no:

ImEvil1 11-20-2010 01:00 AM

Well, I'll give Mike P. credit for asking the guy TWICE, in two separate threads.

Here's the link to the extremely rare, "undercover", only marked, white, slick-top, GSP ever in-service, unit #119. :No no:

Nice plate, too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...item3cb2aa4f3f

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/a...P/IMG_2393.jpg

MOstang 11-20-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 22856)
Well, I'll give Mike P. credit for asking the guy TWICE, in two separate threads.

Here's the link to the extremely rare, "undercover", only marked, white, slick-top, GSP ever in-service, unit #119. :No no:

Thank you Mike...hopefully it will keep someone from making an unintended mistake buying something they don't want.

I think given he started another thread instead of keeping the original one going pretty much gives us the answer. Figured, though, I better get the same question repeated in his new thread. Maybe it will get answered one day. :rolleyes:

FHP813 11-20-2010 12:56 PM

You would think someone over there (other than Mike) would have the same questions.

CNTLOSE 11-20-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FHP813 (Post 22870)
You would think someone over there (other than Mike) would have the same questions.

I think most know it is not a true GSP car and just do not bother. Mike asked....and with the lack of response I would say the owner knows the true story... by this point at least. For what he is willing to sell it to a member I do not think the price is too far off. Regular coupes today in solid condition can bring $4-5k easily. The new owner can consider it is a bonus for it to be an SSP and maybe that will spark the research for the correct history on the car.

ImEvil1 11-20-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNTLOSE (Post 22875)
I think most know it is not a true GSP car and just do not bother. Mike asked....and with the lack of response I would say the owner knows the true story... by this point at least. For what he is willing to sell it to a member I do not think the price is too far off. Regular coupes today in solid condition can bring $4-5k easily. The new owner can consider it is a bonus for it to be an SSP and maybe that will spark the research for the correct history on the car.

I don't think so, at least not judging by the amount of "great find", "nice car", and other congratulatory comments.

Bottom line is that the car is being advertised as something that it isn't over there and on eBay, and Mike P. is the only one attempting to point it out.

Again, kudos to Mike.

MOstang 11-20-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skywalker (Post 22881)
No, it was a scam. The "buyer" said he was sending a cashiers check for more than the sale price and I would have to wire back the difference. I hate people.

My only purpose was to provide the owner with an opportunity to articulate what kind of documentation he has or does not have. It is what it is and if someone has an interest in the actual agency that appears to have used it then that would be great. However, he is using as his "fastball" to sell the car that it was a GSP SSP and that is furthered by all the photos with GSP emblem magnets pasted on the car (and listing an in-service GSP SSP photo in his ad). If it in fact was they let's put the facts out there and put that open question to rest. If it isn't than we need to get those facts out there and on the record. If it is then the same thing goes.

I think for those of us in the the hobby...we need to look out for each other and not assume that everyone has picked up on the situation that is going on. The beauty of this relatively small group of SSP enthusiasts is that we do try and look out for each other. If we don't, who will?

The comment by the Seller after his last eBay ad (I've posted it above) has such a level irony in it that is really just too much :puke: . It just goes to show that he is not part of the "we" when it comes to looking out for each other in the hobby. If he can't answer basic questions about his car we shouldn't further his effort to sell it.

If these posts keep someone from making a (possible) mistake than it has been worth it. We will have then looked out for each other and maybe they can focus on buying an SSP from one of the productive members of the SSP enthusiast family.

ImEvil1 11-20-2010 09:06 PM

Very nicely done.


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