1982 CHP car oddities.... ?? - Page 5

ImEvil1 · #41 09-04-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxChassis

What we might be able to do with the Eminger Invoices is ask Marti Auto if any are available within the batch of the 400 consecutive P10F VINs and if there are, pay for a photocopy (or PDF, etc.) of one of them. That way, they can keep with their policy of only giving the actual paper copy of the invoice to the owner of the vehicle and we could see what one of the invoices says. They might have better luck finding a sample if they're looking for any of a possible 400, instead of just one.

Sounds like a great idea.

ImEvil1 · #42 09-04-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp

On the Marti report the "test mule" is identified as a "Marketing Vehicle". You would have to imagine that Ford was getting the SSP program geared up at that point, so add'l police demos would be needed for evaluation purposes by Ford and other departments. Didn't Arizona have a 1982 SSP/demo for evaluation purposes? I'm not trying to take anything away from the "Emil Loeffler 1982 Engineering Mule", as the owner calls it. It was a police demo that pre-dated the SSP's which came out later that same year. So it is an interesting car, no doubt.

I'm hoping that an Eminger Invoice for a 1982 SSP will be found and we can see the correct wording of the SSP option (Severe Service Package or Special Service Package) as listed on the original Ford document. Not taking anything away from Mr. Marti, but having an Eminger Invoice for a 82 SSP would remove all doubt.

Yes to the AZ car...it's in the gallery here. It looks like tan interior in it as well. The '82 tested in TX had black interior.

Ford still does "police demos". You would think there would be several Mustangs that year, as well as some in subsequent years. They are cars loaned out to departments for testing/evaluation and you can imagine what kind of abuse they endure.

FoxChassis · #43 09-04-2011, 11:14 AM

I wonder if the Eminger Invoice for the GL hatchback also says "police demo".

NoDrama43 · #44 09-04-2011, 12:07 PM

CHP required Ford to build mustang "pilot" cars every year. Ford would ship the pilot car to CHP and they would inspect, test, and evaluate the car, then make changes to the order if needed. An example would be the addition of oil coolers because the oil temps ran to high without them.

yes I have documents from CHP to prove these statements. I have the corespondence between Ford and CHP about the oil coolers, and I have several original "pilot" car inspection sheets.

ImEvil1 · #45 09-04-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NoDrama43

CHP required Ford to build mustang "pilot" cars every year. Ford would ship the pilot car to CHP and they would inspect, test, and evaluate the car, then make changes to the order if needed. An example would be the addition of oil coolers because the oil temps ran to high without them.

yes I have documents from CHP to prove these statements. I have the corespondence between Ford and CHP about the oil coolers, and I have several original "pilot" car inspection sheets.

We've talked about these before. The problem we recently discussed was whether or not these pilot cars were part of the order (same DSO numbers) or one-offs. Unfortunately, unless you have something that I do not, there aren't VINs listed on the inspection sheets to compare with the batches to be able to tell one way or the other.

Also...I know we were discussing test cars and engineering probes and the like, so are you saying that you have found one of the pilot cars now??

litsnsirn · #46 09-04-2011, 06:41 PM

Wasn't there a magazine ad in which Ford said that it was the severe service package?

NoDrama43 · #47 09-04-2011, 07:33 PM

I will dig thru my stuff and see what years I have info on the pilot cars and see if there is any documentation that identifies them by vin etc.

28HopUp · #48 09-04-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by litsnsirn

Wasn't there a magazine ad in which Ford said that it was the severe service package?

Was this the one you were thinking about?

This ad confirms that there were 400 cars for 1982 (not 406). However, the ad does not specifically say anything about them being SSP's.

ImEvil1 · #49 09-04-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoDrama43

I will dig thru my stuff and see what years I have info on the pilot cars and see if there is any documentation that identifies them by vin etc.

I already did that.

28HopUp · #50 09-04-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NoDrama43

CHP required Ford to build mustang "pilot" cars every year. Ford would ship the pilot car to CHP and they would inspect, test, and evaluate the car, then make changes to the order if needed.

Jim, that is consistent with what I found in the documentation supplied to me by the seller of the 1985 CHP Mustang in New Orleans. Here is an Special Equipment Parts List which we discussed here.

In the upper right hand corner, it says there were 154 cars in DSO 72-0406, but there were 155 cars ordered by the CHP in 1985. So the missing car was likely the pilot car for the new model year.