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Old 08-31-2011, 10:43 PM
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Default Marti Report: 1982 CHP Hatchback

As most of us know by now, the Deluxe Marti Reports are different than the Eminger Invoices in that you do not need to own the vehicle to get the Deluxe Report. Anybody can run this report on any vehicle they want to, as long as they have the VIN and are willing to pony up the money for the report.

There was a recent thread on Four Eyed Pride about the 82 CHP hatchback. In that thread, FoxChassis suggested that somebody could run the report for this car, since the VIN was known (and listed in the thread). So last week I ordered the report, which is attached herein.



EDIT: The Marti report was removed because it contained an error. A new report will be provided shortly.

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Old 08-31-2011, 10:49 PM
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Here are a few comments about the information:
  • This car has a 6-digit DSO.
  • There is no paint code on the door sticker, and the car is said to have "special paint".
  • There were only 4 hatchbacks painted in this manner in 1982. So would it be fair to say that there were only 4 CHP hatchbacks that year?
  • The letter ends with the best statement possible - that the car was used by the California Highway Patrol for evaluation purposes.

Very cool stuff, IMO!
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:17 PM
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Way cool....and verifies lots of things.
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'82 SSP (Marketing Order)
'83 Colorado State Patrol #202
'83 Texas DPS
'85 Florida Highway Patrol #1422
'93 Florida Highway Patrol #1187
'93 Florida Highway Patrol #1363
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:27 AM
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That "one of 4 ... for the 1982 Mustang 3-door sedan", or any of those other statistics for that matter, only covers the P16 (GL/GT) hatchback, not the P13 (GLX) hatchback. So it is possible that one or more P13 hatchbacks also had "special paint".

I wonder if the other three are 224461, 224462, and 224463.
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excellent information straight from from Ford's database. Doesn't get any better than that !
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That "one of 4 ... for the 1982 Mustang 3-door sedan", or any of those other statistics for that matter, only covers the P16 (GL/GT) hatchback, not the P13 (GLX) hatchback. So it is possible that one or more P13 hatchbacks also had "special paint".

I wonder if the other three are 224461, 224462, and 224463.

Would the CHP have ordered any GLX hatchbacks for evaluation purposes? If the general concensus is that they would not have, then would it be safe to say that there were only 4 CHP hatchbacks?

Also, we know the list of consecutive VIN's shows that there were 400 V8 notchbacks, and that the known 82 SSP's are contained within that batch of VIN's. There have been other reports stating that the CHP ordered 400 SSP's in 1982, yet other "sources" have claimed there were 406 SSP's in 1982. Are we to the point where we can state with confidence the correct number of 1982 SSP's?
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:05 AM
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The "source" that claims there were 406 SSPs in '82, does that include hatchbacks (which were not SSP) and notchbacks OR is that (supposedly) notchbacks only?
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:58 AM
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I think what is important is that we not make assumptions. We have a great resource in Kevin Marti who has the hard data. The best way to determine how many 1982 Mustangs (all versions) ordered by the CHP is to have documentation from the CHP.

An example of this is the original documentation we have from CHP regarding the order, PO#, purchase history and delivery paperwork for EVERY 1987 CHP car purchased, including the pilot car inspection paperwork. Without documentation from CHP isn't the numbers just our "best guess"?

I think what is critically important is that if we DO have a number in mind we should always publish it as an "estimate based on" not just print it as fact on the internet.

My "best guess" is 400 notchback, and 4 hatchback, based on the documentation I have seen thus far. I give zero weight to the hype, smoke and mirror theories that are published in various forums....

If you own a 1982 mustang that you believe was a CHP car it is now very easy to confirm. Buy a Marti Report that specifies special service package, DSO 72-0102, DSO 72-0187, CHP testing, etc., or produce an assignment card.
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Very well said.
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thank you. I was in a definitive state of mind.
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