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nighthawk756 04-24-2014 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 45768)
Be sure to order the deluxe report if you want the dealer number and name. The basic report has the dealer number but no name.
Roger that.

Bullitt1609 04-25-2014 12:25 PM
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Need some help identifying this '90 SSP. Owner claims one of the buck tags states Massachusetts, but can't get a good enough picture for me. Wouldn't 11-xxxx DSO be out of Boston? VIN is not listed in the VIN project. Will be looking at the car in person later this afternoon. Does anyone have an active Autocheck and wouldn't mind running one for me? Thank you.

Jonathon

jarhed123 04-25-2014 01:18 PM
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Here is a pic of the buck tag on that car. It sold on Ebay in Feb. of 2007 Then again in Feb of 2011 for $3K. The add claimed Never in Serv. I have more pics of the car. Contact me

FoxChassis 04-25-2014 03:47 PM
LF192182 is not in the VIN Project because it is in a group of two consecutive. I did not supply consecutive groups of two VINs, or single VINs. When they come I go back through my records and see what I have, and post them and give them to Bill. When Bill has a chance I am sure he will add these two VINs and the door and buck tags to the VIN Project.

I do not have a AC account right now but I did run them through MA RMV...

Vehicle ID Number ... Title # .... Issued
1FACP40E7LF196182 ... BD289425 ... 6/16/2006
1FACP40E9LF196183 ... No Record
---------2---------

There is no record of an Alabama title application via the AL DOR site.

Bullitt1609 04-25-2014 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 45793)
LF192182 is not in the VIN Project because it is in a group of two consecutive. I did not supply consecutive groups of two VINs, or single VINs. When they come I go back through my records and see what I have, and post them and give them to Bill. When Bill has a chance I am sure he will add these two VINs and the door and buck tags to the VIN Project.

I do not have a AC account right now but I did run them through MA RMV...

Vehicle ID Number ... Title # .... Issued
1FACP40E7LF196182 ... BD289425 ... 6/16/2006
1FACP40E9LF196183 ... No Record
---------2---------

There is no record of an Alabama title application via the AL DOR site.
I had a feeling it was in a smaller batch, but wanted to post the info up. Marcos forwarded me a copy of the eBay listing from 2007. The seller at the time stated it never went into service.

I apologize, the car is actually located just outside Louisville, KY. My father was in Frankfort today and said he would run by and look at the car. He's going to try and take a better picture of the buck tags for the VIN project.

Here is the current Craigslist ad. It has been modified more than my liking.

http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/4438301213.html

Bullitt1609 04-25-2014 05:46 PM
Unfortunately, wasn't able to get any better pictures of the buck tags. With is as modified as it is and as previously mentioned, not in-service, this is something we aren't interested in. Just wanted to make sure the info made it to the VIN project.

28HopUp 04-28-2014 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nighthawk756 (Post 45710)
Mick, I have a friend that has an SSP that is trying to determine agency. He knows it's a long shot since the tag only says DSO Police. It has an Atlanta DSO....21-0815. VIN is 1facp40e8pf202867

Thanks Mick and Bill!
Here is the new page for this SSP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info202867.htm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 45494)
It is also interesting to note that there is another batch of VINs from 1985 that we believe contain some CSP Mustangs:
1FABP26M7FF235050 - [AC report is inconclusive]
1FABP26M9FF235051 - [AC report is inconclusive]
1FABP26M0FF235052 - [AC report is inconclusive, but was first titled in CO]
1FABP26M2FF235053 - [AC report is inconclusive, but was first titled in CO]
1FABP26M4FF235054 - [AC report is inconclusive, but was first titled in CO]
1FABP26M6FF235055 - [AC report is inconclusive]
1FABP26M8FF235056 - [AC report is inconclusive, but was first titled in CO]
1FABP26MXFF235057 - [AC report is inconclusive, but was first titled in CO]
----------8---------
We hope to someday pinpoint with certainty which of the above VINs are SSP Mustangs used by the CSP. :)
One of the above cars was recently listed on CL, and the photos can be used for to confirm it as a CSP Mustang -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info235051.htm

nighthawk756 04-28-2014 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 45821)
Here is the new page for this SSP -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info202867.htm



One of the above cars was recently posted on CL, and the photos can be used for to confirm it as a CSP Mustang -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info235051.htm
Thanks Bill. He ordered a deluxe Marti report for the car so I'll post a copy of it when he gets it.

28HopUp 04-28-2014 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 45793)
LF192182 is not in the VIN Project because it is in a group of two consecutive. I did not supply consecutive groups of two VINs, or single VINs. When they come I go back through my records and see what I have, and post them and give them to Bill. When Bill has a chance I am sure he will add these two VINs and the door and buck tags to the VIN Project.

I do not have a AC account right now but I did run them through MA RMV...

Vehicle ID Number ... Title # .... Issued
1FACP40E7LF196182 ... BD289425 ... 6/16/2006
1FACP40E9LF196183 ... No Record
---------2---------

There is no record of an Alabama title application via the AL DOR site.
I have added the two VINs to the 1990 page, but I have not created a page for LF196182 yet. The photo of the Buck Tags is not clear enough to confirm the SSP option, so we cannot add it yet.

28HopUp 04-28-2014 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nighthawk756 (Post 45822)
Thanks Bill. He ordered a deluxe Marti report for the car so I'll post a copy of it when he gets it.

Thanks Brad! :)

28HopUp 05-02-2014 11:29 AM
Broward County Sheriff's Office
 
Marcos sent me a PDF file (which we are allowed to use) with agency documentation on five Mustangs used by Broward County Sheriff's Office (a 1990 model, and four 1993s). I made them into a picture file for each car for future use in the Project:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...162624pic1.jpg
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...168993pic1.jpg
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...168994pic1.jpg
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...168995pic1.jpg
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...168996pic1.jpg


You should be able to zoom into the picture files, depending on your browser. Each page lists when the cars were purchased and sold, and what the costs and selling prices were. The only error is they claim that the cars had 3.8L engines, but the VINs confirm them to be 5.0L cars. Strangely, none of these cars show a police-branded title on the Florida DMV website, but they all have title history in Florida. We will need to add these cars to the list for Marti Reports to confirm them as being equipped with the SSP option. Pretty cool stuff - thank you Marcos!

jarhed123 05-02-2014 12:49 PM
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I saw most of these cars while in service and I have pictures of one of them (Attached). They were SSPs, but a Marti Report is always good to have. On the top of each vehicle report is the Unit # for example 9501 or 9503, ect... Where it is writen "Sheriff" that was the official tag number for the sheriff's office which is yellow with a star, yet the florida tag assigned by the state but not kept in the system would by the "Confid Tag". All of these units were unmarked.

Also notice that on unit 9503 it is stated as white but the pictures I posted of it show it silver. Our records keeper was not a big car guy at the time so he did not do a great job at keeping records.

28HopUp 05-02-2014 03:01 PM
Marcos, I should have looked through your folders more closely to find the one for this car. Those pictures you sent me are larger and more clear. I can easily see that the Buck Tag says "DSO PO", so I am confident that the tag says DSO POLICE to confirm this as a SSP. Here's the new page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info168996.htm

nighthawk756 05-02-2014 03:21 PM
Wow, very cool cars. Have any of these ever surfaced for sale?? Or does anyone have one of them?

FoxChassis 05-02-2014 03:35 PM
I Googled all five VINs but nothing came back. Don't know if anyone has ever run CF or AC reports on them but I haven't.

jarhed123 05-03-2014 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by nighthawk756 (Post 45891)
Wow, very cool cars. Have any of these ever surfaced for sale?? Or does anyone have one of them?
When they were sold at auction, one of the mechanics beet me to the punch and bought it. He still has it and he is a Mustang fan so it's in good hands. A second is not far from where I live and soon I plan on passing by and talking with the owner. The others must be out of state because I can't find a thing on them in Florida.

kapracing 05-03-2014 09:29 PM
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Bill here's another 90 GSP to add to the Vin Project...
Along with the 88 I posted in for sale section...

28HopUp 05-04-2014 08:35 AM
Thanks Bobby! I added/updated the pages for that 1988 GSP you looked at, and here is the new page for the above VIN label -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info188114.htm


;)

28HopUp 05-07-2014 09:56 AM
Here is an instance where the photos from Marcos (jarhed123) added additional documentation on an existing SSP in our Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info213224.htm


Previously, there were only the first two photos on the page. The additional photos came form the records that Marcos had kept and submitted. Because of this, we were able to confirm the Unit Number for this car. :thumbsup:

nighthawk756 05-10-2014 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 45768)
Be sure to order the deluxe report if you want the dealer number and name. The basic report has the dealer number but no name.
He got his Marti report back....here it is....

nighthawk756 05-10-2014 09:44 AM
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I also received mine for my 86 Nevada if we could add it to the project. Thanks Bill!

FoxChassis 05-10-2014 02:42 PM
For the unknown 1993 I have seen that dealer name a couple other times but with a slightly different dealer number. The other two times that I have seen that dealer name the dealer number has been 21A022. 1991 GSP MF176501 was ordered through that same dealer (dealer # 21A022).

nighthawk756 05-10-2014 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 46045)
For the unknown 1993 I have seen that dealer name a couple other times but with a slightly different dealer number. The other two times that I have seen that dealer name the dealer number has been 21A022. 1991 GSP MF176501 was ordered through that same dealer (dealer # 21A022).
Hmmmmmm, strange bird this one is. I'm beginning to wonder if it was a GBI car....

28HopUp 05-11-2014 08:29 AM
Thanks Brad (x2) :)

28HopUp 05-14-2014 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 45557)
I went through and organized the USB drive that Marcos filled with folders of SSP pictures. I can readily post (as time allows) 72 new SSPs to the Project. Then there are 77 new photos I can add to existing SSPs in the Project. Finally, there are 65 cars which have weak documentation (like only having a VIN label). These are interesting because in 32 instances they are in batches with no other documented SSP Mustangs so far. This allows us to look at VINs that we otherwise might not have considered. :)

Thanks Marcos!!!
Here are a few examples of the pages we were able to add or improve using the photos that Marcos submitted:

1982 CHP #E870366
1986 CHP
1986 CHP #E413732
1986 CSP
1986 FHP
1987 Orlando
1988 MA
1988 Orange County FL
1988 OR
1989 FHP
1989 FHP
1989 GSP
1989 Hall County
1989 WSP
1990 AzDPS
1990 CSP
1990 GSA/GOVT
1990 Santa Clara
1990 Nevada Hwy Patrol
1991 GSP
1991 Utah
1992 Kansas
1992 MSP
1992 Mississippi
1992 North Carolina
1993 City of Rome PD
1993 LSP
1993 Broward County Sheriff's Office
1993 Unknown Agency
1993 Pensacola, FL
1993 Clayton County, GA
1993 Longwood, FL
1993 RCMP
1993 US Fish & Wildlife


THANK YOU, Marcos!

kapracing 05-14-2014 10:03 AM
Good stuff !
:2thumbs:

28HopUp 05-14-2014 02:23 PM
Agreed! I just ran a quick tally, and we have 2,876 SSP Mustangs confirmed in the Project now. :D

kapracing 05-14-2014 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 46133)
Agreed! I just ran a quick tally, and we have 2,876 SSP Mustangs confirmed in the Project now. :D
Soooo
If the rumors are true... only a little over 12,000 to go :shrug:


;)

28HopUp 05-15-2014 09:01 AM
Haha, Bobby! You're funny! :D I don't plan on finding them all, but we certainly have made a good run at them so far. :thumbsup:

nighthawk756 05-15-2014 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 46145)
Haha, Bobby! You're funny! :D I don't plan on finding them all, but we certainly have made a good run at them so far. :thumbsup:
Yes you have!! Congrats on all the hard work! ;)

kapracing 05-15-2014 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 46145)
Haha, Bobby! You're funny! :D I don't plan on finding them all, but we certainly have made a good run at them so far. :thumbsup:
Yes you have Bill :2thumbs:

Nearly 3k SSP's is alot of work :eek:

I just couldn't resist :D


As always Bill Your doing an AWESOME JOB !!!

jarhed123 05-15-2014 10:34 AM
Great Work!!

dougphillips48 05-15-2014 12:52 PM
I second what everybody else says Bill; you've done a great job!

28HopUp 05-15-2014 02:42 PM
Thanks guys! It really has been a group effort on this Project. It's been a lot of fun, too!

28HopUp 05-16-2014 11:52 AM
We ordered a few more Marti Reports this week which we should receive before the end of May, as follows:
  • The two remaining 1985 Nevada Highway Patrol SSP Mustangs, including the one that was wrecked when being driven to its initial post.
  • From the same batch, we ordered a Marti Report on a Colorado State Patrol Mustang, which should confirm an adjacent VIN for the known race car that is painted like a CHP (assuming that the DSO numbers are the same).
  • A 1990 GSA car where the cars in that DSO show "GOVT" on the Buck Tags with no mention of the SSP option. We have always assumed those were SSP Mustangs, but now we can confirm them with 100% certainty.
  • A likely 1990 Nebraska car that is at the end of a batch of FHP Mustangs.
  • A 1993 Wisconsin SSP.
  • The 1993 SSP from Winslow, AZ.


We are nearing the end of being able to use Marti Reports to confirm huge blocks of VINs, because we have found most of the big batches. Now we will be targeting specific small ranges with cars that have insufficient documentation but are of particular interest. Here is the current list of those cars (year,agency,VIN):

82 CHP . . . . 213093
84 GOV . . . . 224519
84 UT. . . . . 206937
86 UT. . . . . 257534
87 CT. . . . . 170655
87 DE. . . . . 156132
87 JeffCounty. 151352
87 JeffCounty. 230969
87 OSP . . . . 169353
87 UT. . . . . 230025
88 AZ. . . . . 221352
88 GOV . . . . 266131
88 LakeWorthFD 216685
88 BrooksvlPD. 247983
88 CT. . . . . 252011
88 Phx AZ PD . 255636
88 LA Cty SO . 298061
88 NC. . . . . 231301
88 NY. . . . . 258841
88 UNK . . . . 172863
88 PCSD. . . . 256153 (may be a different agency)
88 PCSD. . . . 256155
88 PCSD. . . . 256156
88 PCSD. . . . 256158
88 WI. . . . . 255987
89 DEA . . . . 283812
89 FHP . . . . 201526
89 FHP . . . . 212051
89 FHP . . . . 289909
89 ID. . . . . 135776
89 IN. . . . . 172098
89 NeverInServ 165691
89 RCMP. . . . 179578
89 SC. . . . . 210399
89 TxDPS . . . 290422 (unconfirmed)
89 UNK . . . . 261436
89 WA. . . . . 247444
90 BrowardCty. 162624
90 FBI . . . . 191682
90 MO. . . . . 141235
90 MO. . . . . 141249
90 NC. . . . . 163503
90 NeverInServ 196182
90 UKN . . . . 158119
90 UKN . . . . 211092
90 UT. . . . . 150331
90 UT. . . . . 200921
91 CHP . . . . 172308 (unconfirmed)
91 DaviePD . . 151902
91 GOV . . . . 161590
91 NY. . . . . 141582 (unconfirmed)
91 UKN . . . . 107457
91 UKN . . . . 158396
91 SC. . . . . 158377
91 VA. . . . . 155513 (unconfirmed)
91 VA. . . . . 161595
92 East Bay. . 176851
92 Chico, CA . 176858
92 HermosaBch. 176853
92 MISC. . . . 119642 (poss Dona Ana County NM)
92 MISC. . . . 132636 (poss Tx)
92 MISC. . . . 147041
92 MISC. . . . 148732
92 NC. . . . . 119588
92 NC. . . . . 132247
92 SC. . . . . 142859
93 GOV . . . . 142859
93 MISC. . . . 150331
93 MISC. . . . 164132 (poss Greensboro PD)
93 MISC. . . . 177869 (MD agency?)
93 MISC. . . . 182331 (Gilchrist Cty SO)
93 MISC. . . . 194594
93 MISC. . . . 198419 (poss Bristol VA PD)
93 MISC. . . . 202278
93 MISC. . . . 202871 (Pineville NC)
93 MISC. . . . 214866
93 NC. . . . . 189066
93 SC. . . . . 144234 (poss Sheriff's Dept car)
93 TX. . . . . 209470 (Unit M3-407)
93 UT. . . . . 194585



If anyone is interested in learning more about any of the above cars, shoot me a PM with your email addy and I will send you the pictures we have. Also, if anyone is interested in ordering a Marti Report for any of the above cars on behalf of the VIN Project, please let me know. ;)

kapracing 05-18-2014 11:13 AM
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Bill here's a pic of the vin label Fromm a 88 CHP posted over on org. Of CHP 3085.

kapracing 05-18-2014 11:15 AM
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Pic 2

28HopUp 05-19-2014 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kapracing (Post 46223)
Bill here's a pic of the vin label Fromm a 88 CHP posted over on org. Of CHP 3085.
Thanks Bobby (and Mick ;)). Here is the new page in our Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info221464.htm

Quote:
Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 46180)
We ordered a few more Marti Reports this week which we should receive before the end of May, as follows:
  • The two remaining 1985 Nevada Highway Patrol SSP Mustangs, including the one that was wrecked when being driven to its initial post.
  • From the same batch, we ordered a Marti Report on a Colorado State Patrol Mustang, which should confirm an adjacent VIN for the known race car that is painted like a CHP (assuming that the DSO numbers are the same).
  • A 1990 GSA car where the cars in that DSO show "GOVT" on the Buck Tags with no mention of the SSP option. We have always assumed those were SSP Mustangs, but now we can confirm them with 100% certainty.
  • A likely 1990 Nebraska car that is at the end of a batch of FHP Mustangs.
  • A 1993 Wisconsin SSP.
  • The 1993 SSP from Winslow, AZ.

The Marti Reports are in -

1985 Nevada Highway Patrol FF206188
1985 Nevada Highway Patrol FF206190 (wrecked in-service)
1985 Colorado State Patrol FF206193 (DSO match to the next VIN)
1985 Colorado State Patrol FF206194
1990 GSA LF191613 (so GOVT on the Buck Tag does mean it's a SSP)
1990 Nebraska State Patrol LF 161470 (unconfirmed agency usage)
1993 Wisconsin State Patrol PF144888
1993 Winslow, AZ P.D. PF147249 (the next VIN after a bunch of FHPs)

:D

nighthawk756 05-19-2014 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 46235)
The Marti Reports are in -

1985 Nevada Highway Patrol FF206188
1985 Nevada Highway Patrol FF206190 (wrecked in-service)

:D
That's great info on the 85 NHP's! Confirms the story of them all being white and painted blue once NHP took possession. I was also wondering what DSO they would've been ordered through since they were Federal grant test cars. And Denver was the DSO. Very interesting stuff!

28HopUp 05-19-2014 11:56 AM
Brad, this one rounds out the 1985 NHP cars...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info206189.htm


...which is now owned by Ken. :)


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