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Thank you, Bobby! Here are the three new pages:
1984 CHP 1988 GSP, Perm #9319 1989 GSP, Perm #9245 Bobby, I can add the line shots from the record books for each car. For now, I have ID'd the Perm Number for both cars. |
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Attached is the first of three Marti Reports I recently ordered (the other two have not yet arrived). I also attached a photo of the VIN label, which shows DSO 83-0809.
The Marti Report does NOT list the SSP option. That was disappointing, but it was a factory two-tone Four-Eyed Mustang. Pretty cool! :cool: |
1991 GSP Perm# 1184 Roof number 797 Cecil Ramone Rucker Post 48 Sold 01/22/96 103,800. Was then put in service by Grantville PD.
Vin 1facp40e4mf176490. I tired to upload the pics of the buck tag and all but it would not let me stating they had already been uploaded in this thread. http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=6497 |
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Another 1982 SSP Marketing Vehicle
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Previously we identified a black SSP "Marketing Vehicle" that was equipped the same as the 1982 CHP Mustangs (except as noted on its Build Sheet). Here is a link to that car in our VIN Project, which includes its Marti Report -
http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info234608.htm We pulled a Marti Report on the second car in that 2-car batch of VINs to see if it was also a Marketing Vehicle. Attached is a copy of that report. Sure enough, it was a WHITE Marketing Vehicle equipped almost identically to the black car (except this one had the high altitude emissions option), and it was ordered by Ford in Arizona. I wonder if this car happens to be the one pictured below? http://www.specialservicemustang.net...es/AZ/82AZ.jpg http://www.specialservicemustang.net...s/AZ/82AZ4.jpg http://www.specialservicemustang.net...s/AZ/82AZ2.jpg Pretty cool stuff! :cool: |
"Special Service Package" is not in the 'Equipment' list but the special order number (0102) is the same as the 394 CHP coupes?
1FABP10F6CF213038 - California Highway Patrol (first VIN assigned in this DSO) DSO 72-0102 . . . 1FABP10F8CF213431 - California Highway Patrol (final VIN assigned in this DSO) DSO 72-0102 1FABP10FXCF213432 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford] 1FABP10F1CF213433 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford] 1FABP10F3CF213434 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford] 1FABP10F5CF213435 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford] 1FABP10F7CF213436 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford] 1FABP10F9CF213437 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford] -----------400----------- 1FABP16F7CF224461 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187 1FABP16F9CF224462 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187 1FABP16F0CF224463 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187 1FABP16F2CF224464 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187 -------------4----------- 1FABP10F5CF234608 - Agency Usage is Unconfirmed DSO 26-0200 1FABP10F5CF234609 - Agency Usage is Unconfirmed DSO 75-0102 -------------2----------- EDIT: I think the special order number for CF234609 should be 0201, not 0102. I would contact Marti to confirm. |
Thank you, Mick! I just sent them an email to ask them to doublecheck the DSO. ;)
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I miss-typed the sales office above for CF234609. I typed "76" but it should be "75".
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I just fixed it for ya. :)
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Good stuff, Bill. Ordered 2 days before the other. Interesting to see it was sent to AZ, and the color combo sure does match the one that AZ tested.
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Exciting information! Thanks guys.
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So I learned something about how the DSO numbers were assigned. It's fun to learn new things about these cars. :) |
I have also learned something new about special order numbers. I thought they were cumulative independent of office. Did not know there could be same special order number in different offices.
Now I need to change the buck tag decoder. :o |
All fixed. Instead of saying "nnnnnn = _______ district sales office (nn), 19nn special order #nnnn" it will now say "nnnnnn = _______ district sales office (nn), 19nn _______ DSO special order #nnnn".
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I love it when new information surfaces, even if it is only new to us (if you know what I mean).
It would make sense that the order numbers from different DSOs would similarly increase in number as the model year progressed. And given the range of orders I could see why we would not have picked up on this on our own. Kevin was very kind in his emails, given that this tidbit of information was probably something he would consider to be common knowledge. Cool stuff! :cool: |
Great stuff....I've never seen it before, either.
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/DSO.html I got that from a Ford manual, but it doesn't mention the order sequence at all. Learn something new every day! |
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Recently picked up an original '85 UHP SSP. It came with the attached documentation I wanted to share for the VIN project.
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http://foxchassis.com/decoders/ownercard/ssp/
1FABP26M5FF206811 76 = Seattle district sales office 9L = Oxford White exterior paint color FY = cloth seating, low-back front buckets (F), Sand Beige interior trim color (Y) 14E = May 14th scheduled build M2 4 = 2.73:1 rear axle ratio w/ Traction-Lok differential (M), Borg Warner 'T-5' 5-speed manual overdrive transmission (2), AM/FM stereo radio (4) |
Sorry that DSO should be 76 = Denver.
Bill, Please fix if you can. :) |
The "Application For Fleet Contracts" PDF that Jonathon attached lists five VINs (in red below), one of which was already a known UHP in the VIN Project (FF206809). Also interesting is the "Unit No./Operator Name" next to the VINs. Wonder if that's a car #, or badge #, or plate #, etc?
1FABP26M8FF206804 1FABP26MXFF206805 - Utah Highway Patrol 1FABP26M1FF206806 1FABP26M3FF206807 1FABP26M5FF206808 1FABP26M7FF206809 - Utah Highway Patrol 1FABP26M3FF206810 1FABP26M5FF206811 1FABP26M7FF206812 ------------9------------ The "Special Equipment Parts List" that Jonathon also attached shows 25 units under DSO 76-0507. All but three of the above nine are now confirmed UHP. Assuming 804, 806, and 808 are also UHP -- I did run AC reports on that group of nine a few years ago and they all went to UT originally -- there are 16 remaining under DSO 76-0507. Could it be these?..... 1FABP26M8FF216667 1FABP26MXFF216668 1FABP26M1FF216669 1FABP26M8FF216670 1FABP26MXFF216671 1FABP26M1FF216672 1FABP26M3FF216673 1FABP26M5FF216674 1FABP26M7FF216675 1FABP26M9FF216676 1FABP26M0FF216677 1FABP26M2FF216678 1FABP26M4FF216679 1FABP26M0FF216680 1FABP26M2FF216681 1FABP26M4FF216682 ------------16----------- Or these?..... 1FABP26M4FF227228 1FABP26M6FF227229 1FABP26M2FF227230 1FABP26M4FF227231 1FABP26M6FF227232 1FABP26M8FF227233 1FABP26MXFF227234 1FABP26M1FF227235 1FABP26M3FF227236 1FABP26M5FF227237 1FABP26M7FF227238 1FABP26M9FF227239 1FABP26M5FF227240 1FABP26M7FF227241 1FABP26M9FF227242 1FABP26M0FF227243 ------------16----------- |
The remaining cars from that DSO number must be somewhere on the list of 1985 VINs. This is not the first time we've seen Ford divide a DSO into more than one batch of VINs with civilian cars in-between (in the early years of SSP production, at least).
Jonathon, thank you for posting up that information and congrats on the new SSP! |
cool information !!
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Good stuff, thanks for posting.
Anyone want to guess what these are? |
possible 1984 OSP or WSP or other?
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https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=...2&RowNumber=21
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1FABP26M0EF210683 1FABP26M2EF210684 1FABP26M4EF210685 1FABP26M6EF210686 1FABP26M8EF210687 1FABP26MXEF210688 1FABP26M1EF210689 - Oregon State Police (Eminger Invoice) 1FABP26M8EF210690 - Oregon State Police 1FABP26MXEF210691 1FABP26M1EF210692 1FABP26M3EF210693 1FABP26M5EF210694 1FABP26M7EF210695 1FABP26M9EF210696 1FABP26M0EF210697 1FABP26M2EF210698 1FABP26M4EF210699 1FABP26M7EF210700 1FABP26M9EF210701 1FABP26M0EF210702 ------------20----------- 1FABP26M2EF210703 ?? 1FABP26M4EF210704 <<<<< 1FABP26M6EF210705 ------------2------------ 1FABP26M8EF210706 ?? 1FABP26MXEF210707 ?? 1FABP26M1EF210708 1FABP26M3EF210709 1FABP26MXEF210710 1FABP26M1EF210711 1FABP26M3EF210712 1FABP26M5EF210713 1FABP26M7EF210714 - Washington State Patrol (Eminger invoice) 1FABP26M9EF210715 1FABP26M0EF210716 1FABP26M2EF210717 - Washington State Patrol 1FABP26M4EF210718 - Washington State Patrol 1FABP26M6EF210719 1FABP26M2EF210720 1FABP26M4EF210721 1FABP26M6EF210722 1FABP26M8EF210723 1FABP26MXEF210724 1FABP26M1EF210725 1FABP26M3EF210726 1FABP26M5EF210727 1FABP26M7EF210728 1FABP26M9EF210729 1FABP26M5EF210730 1FABP26M7EF210731 1FABP26M9EF210732 1FABP26M0EF210733 1FABP26M2EF210734 1FABP26M4EF210735 1FABP26M6EF210736 1FABP26M8EF210737 1FABP26MXEF210738 1FABP26M1EF210739 1FABP26M8EF210740 1FABP26MXEF210741 ------------34----------- |
Mick,
I think you are probably right about the skipped VINs in that batching sequence and that they are all part of one batch. GF257563 is another one of those missing VINs which has confirmed SSPs with the same DSO number on either side of it in the Project. |
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So there is a 154-car batch of 1985 CHP cars (DSO #72-0406) that has two VINs just prior to them in the same batch. Both of those cars were thought to be civilian vehicles. That year the CHP ordered 155 cars, so we knew there was another 1985 CHP car that is not part of that DSO batch. It is my understanding that the CHP would order a single Pilot Car to test the upfitting requirements of the new model year. Well, it turns out that the missing car was the VIN immediately positioned before the group of 154 cars. FF234785 was ordered under DSO #72-0405. I just received the attached photo of that car's Buck Tags and will add it to the Project. :)
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Cool! :cool:
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FF234785 is currently marked in the VIN Project as "not a SSP". Was a Marti report run on this VIN before that showed it with a non-special order DSO and without 'Special Service Package' in the equipment list?
Where did those buck tags show up? This is very cool. :) |
Mick, I do not recall the reason behind identifying FF234785 as a civilian car. I thought that maybe we had run a Marti Report on it but I did not find one for it. I know we established the VIN range for DSO #72-0406 by finding the last VIN and counting backwards. I will update the Project tonight when I get home to add FF234785.
The Buck Tags were sent to me by a gentleman on Facebook. He also has a 90 CHP that I will be adding to the Project (actually, I have quite a few updates to make). |
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http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211371.htm As a 1989 model, #E435221 was a run-out by May of 1991 and had racked up over 90K miles in about two years. That isn't remarkable, but it does show how hard these cars were used in a short period. |
You guys talkin about me? ;) It's been a whirlwind over the past few days after discovering documents I have had in storage for maybe 2 decades. I didn't know that my specific 85 was on the "wanted list" all this time ;)
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Glad to see that you were able to iron out your log-in issues. I will get your cars added tonight to the Project. :)
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1FABP10F5CF234608 1982 "SSP Marketing Vehicle" 1FABP10F7CF234609 1982 "SSP Marketing Vehicle" 1FABP26F1DF165401 1983 Washington 1FAPB26M5FF234785 1985 CHP (DSO #72-0405) 1FABP26M7FF234786 1985 CHP (DSO #72-0406) 1FABP26M5GF257534 1986 Utah 1FACP40E0LF170264 1990 CHP #E389608 1FACP40E0LF163489 1990 NCSHP 1FACP40EXLF183667 1990 SCHP 1FACP40E4MF176490 1991 GSP 1FACP40E8NF140268 1992 SCHP 1FACP40E5PF194596 1993 City of West Jordan, UT I may clean up the description on the pages for the two 1982 Marketing Vehicles and call each of them a "SSP Marketing Vehicle" since they do not list the SSP option on their Marti Reports. The wording on the Build Sheet for Mike's black 82 clearly shows that it was built in a similar way to the SSPs the CHP ordered earlier that model year. :2thumbs: |
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It is my understanding that there is concrete documentation designating Mike's 1982 car as a marketing car right?
We know it was built as an SSP based on the build sheet right? So therefore calling it an Marketing vehicle built to CHP SSP specs would be appropriate. |
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Here's my take on it (and why it's listed in my sig as an SSP). The build sheets I have seen (and held in my hands) for '82 CHP cars do not list the SSP option; only '83-up has that wording on them. I haven't seen the wording on pre-'84 SSP buck tags, either. http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info213096.htm http://www.specialservicemustang.net...06/177006b.jpg We've used the 4 digit DSO + bucktags, buildsheets, + other documentation to try and establish "SSP status" of many cars over the years. The only items that concretely identify a car with the option are an original window sticker, Eminger invoice, or post '82 build sheet. We are certainly not experts, but this is what we've figured out up to this point, correct? While the Marti report is a great resource, there have been mistakes/omissions with them. The 16 inch wheels listed on many '92-'93 cars, or as in my '82, the 185/14 wheels, are examples. Not running them down, just pointing out that the reports aren't perfect. Nowhere in the Marti report for 234608 do any of the SSP options my '82 car has on it appear. The car has single-key locking, for example. I have all 4 original 14 inch SSP wheels. It came with the '82-only certified speedometer. Remote relocated decklid release, etc. We know that these options were not available in regular-production cars. They were, however, included on the '82 CHP cars, as shown in this Eminger invoice: http://images49.fotki.com/v629/photo...2SSPpg1-vi.jpg That's why I'm good with the build sheet. It was built just like the CHP units, and we have accepted those are SSPs, with out the SSP nomenclature listed anywhere but the Eminger invoices. |
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