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28HopUp 12-04-2016 10:57 AM

Thank you, Bobby! Here are the three new pages:

1984 CHP
1988 GSP, Perm #9319
1989 GSP, Perm #9245


Bobby, I can add the line shots from the record books for each car. For now, I have ID'd the Perm Number for both cars.

28HopUp 02-15-2017 05:09 PM

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Attached is the first of three Marti Reports I recently ordered (the other two have not yet arrived). I also attached a photo of the VIN label, which shows DSO 83-0809.

The Marti Report does NOT list the SSP option. That was disappointing, but it was a factory two-tone Four-Eyed Mustang. Pretty cool! :cool:

modracer 02-16-2017 12:36 AM

1991 GSP Perm# 1184 Roof number 797 Cecil Ramone Rucker Post 48 Sold 01/22/96 103,800. Was then put in service by Grantville PD.
Vin 1facp40e4mf176490. I tired to upload the pics of the buck tag and all but it would not let me stating they had already been uploaded in this thread.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=6497

28HopUp 02-16-2017 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modracer (Post 54759)
1991 GSP Perm# 1184 Roof number 797 Cecil Ramone Rucker Post 48 Sold 01/22/96 103,800. Was then put in service by Grantville PD.
Vin 1facp40e4mf176490. I tired to upload the pics of the buck tag and all but it would not let me stating they had already been uploaded in this thread.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=6497

Thanks for the "bump". We need to add your SSP to the Project. 'Will get that taken care of shortly.

28HopUp 02-16-2017 11:23 AM

Another 1982 SSP Marketing Vehicle
 
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Previously we identified a black SSP "Marketing Vehicle" that was equipped the same as the 1982 CHP Mustangs (except as noted on its Build Sheet). Here is a link to that car in our VIN Project, which includes its Marti Report -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info234608.htm

We pulled a Marti Report on the second car in that 2-car batch of VINs to see if it was also a Marketing Vehicle. Attached is a copy of that report. Sure enough, it was a WHITE Marketing Vehicle equipped almost identically to the black car (except this one had the high altitude emissions option), and it was ordered by Ford in Arizona.

I wonder if this car happens to be the one pictured below?


Pretty cool stuff! :cool:

FoxChassis 02-16-2017 12:06 PM

"Special Service Package" is not in the 'Equipment' list but the special order number (0102) is the same as the 394 CHP coupes?

1FABP10F6CF213038 - California Highway Patrol (first VIN assigned in this DSO) DSO 72-0102
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1FABP10F8CF213431 - California Highway Patrol (final VIN assigned in this DSO) DSO 72-0102
1FABP10FXCF213432 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford]
1FABP10F1CF213433 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford]
1FABP10F3CF213434 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford]
1FABP10F5CF213435 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford]
1FABP10F7CF213436 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford]
1FABP10F9CF213437 - [VIN not assigned - car not built by Ford]
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1FABP16F7CF224461 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187
1FABP16F9CF224462 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187
1FABP16F0CF224463 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187
1FABP16F2CF224464 - CHP hatchback (w/ SSP option) DSO 72-0187
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1FABP10F5CF234608 - Agency Usage is Unconfirmed DSO 26-0200
1FABP10F5CF234609 - Agency Usage is Unconfirmed DSO 75-0102
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EDIT: I think the special order number for CF234609 should be 0201, not 0102. I would contact Marti to confirm.

28HopUp 02-16-2017 03:13 PM

Thank you, Mick! I just sent them an email to ask them to doublecheck the DSO. ;)

FoxChassis 02-16-2017 03:28 PM

I miss-typed the sales office above for CF234609. I typed "76" but it should be "75".

28HopUp 02-16-2017 03:36 PM

I just fixed it for ya. :)

ImEvil1 02-16-2017 09:22 PM

Good stuff, Bill. Ordered 2 days before the other. Interesting to see it was sent to AZ, and the color combo sure does match the one that AZ tested.

chp1982 02-16-2017 11:46 PM

Exciting information! Thanks guys.

kapracing 02-17-2017 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 54779)
Good stuff, Bill. Ordered 2 days before the other. Interesting to see it was sent to AZ, and the color combo sure does match the one that AZ tested.

Interested to see if its still on the road and around... That would be another cool restoration:cool:

28HopUp 02-17-2017 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kapracing (Post 54783)
Interested to see if its still on the road and around... That would be another cool restoration:cool:

That is quite true! Especially since there are vintage photos of the car.

28HopUp 02-17-2017 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 54772)
"Special Service Package" is not in the 'Equipment' list but the special order number (0102) is the same as the 394 CHP coupes?

The other black car CF234608 does not list the SSP option on the Marti Report either, but the Build Sheet does state that this car was to be built with the same options as the 1982 SSP Mustangs for the CHP (except as noted on the sheet). Given the wording and the six digit DSO number, the black car should be considered a SSP. The white car appears to be optioned the same way as the black car, but without knowing the wording on the Build Sheet we may not be able to call it a SSP despite the six digit DSO number (even though it is likely the car in the Arizona DPS photos).

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 54772)
I think the special order number for CF234609 should be 0201, not 0102. I would contact Marti to confirm.

Kevin replied back last evening to say that the DSO is correctly listed on the report as 750102. He said that it is irrelevant that CHP used 0102 because the last four digits are assigned within a district sales office. He said that each office could use 0102 if they wanted for their own independent use. Kevin agreed that since this was a marketing vehicle, it may have been for ordered to convince the Arizona DPS to buy some SSP Mustangs.

So I learned something about how the DSO numbers were assigned. It's fun to learn new things about these cars. :)

FoxChassis 02-17-2017 01:50 PM

I have also learned something new about special order numbers. I thought they were cumulative independent of office. Did not know there could be same special order number in different offices.

Now I need to change the buck tag decoder. :o

FoxChassis 02-17-2017 02:11 PM

All fixed. Instead of saying "nnnnnn = _______ district sales office (nn), 19nn special order #nnnn" it will now say "nnnnnn = _______ district sales office (nn), 19nn _______ DSO special order #nnnn".

28HopUp 02-17-2017 02:19 PM

I love it when new information surfaces, even if it is only new to us (if you know what I mean).

It would make sense that the order numbers from different DSOs would similarly increase in number as the model year progressed. And given the range of orders I could see why we would not have picked up on this on our own. Kevin was very kind in his emails, given that this tidbit of information was probably something he would consider to be common knowledge.

Cool stuff! :cool:

ImEvil1 02-17-2017 04:33 PM

Great stuff....I've never seen it before, either.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/DSO.html

I got that from a Ford manual, but it doesn't mention the order sequence at all. Learn something new every day!

Bullitt1609 02-23-2017 02:41 PM

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Recently picked up an original '85 UHP SSP. It came with the attached documentation I wanted to share for the VIN project.

FoxChassis 02-23-2017 02:48 PM

http://foxchassis.com/decoders/ownercard/ssp/

1FABP26M5FF206811

76 = Seattle district sales office
9L = Oxford White exterior paint color
FY = cloth seating, low-back front buckets (F), Sand Beige interior trim color (Y)
14E = May 14th scheduled build
M2 4 = 2.73:1 rear axle ratio w/ Traction-Lok differential (M), Borg Warner 'T-5' 5-speed manual overdrive transmission (2), AM/FM stereo radio (4)

FoxChassis 02-23-2017 02:56 PM

Sorry that DSO should be 76 = Denver.

Bill, Please fix if you can. :)

FoxChassis 02-23-2017 03:28 PM

The "Application For Fleet Contracts" PDF that Jonathon attached lists five VINs (in red below), one of which was already a known UHP in the VIN Project (FF206809). Also interesting is the "Unit No./Operator Name" next to the VINs. Wonder if that's a car #, or badge #, or plate #, etc?

1FABP26M8FF206804
1FABP26MXFF206805 - Utah Highway Patrol
1FABP26M1FF206806
1FABP26M3FF206807
1FABP26M5FF206808
1FABP26M7FF206809 - Utah Highway Patrol
1FABP26M3FF206810
1FABP26M5FF206811
1FABP26M7FF206812

------------9------------

The "Special Equipment Parts List" that Jonathon also attached shows 25 units under DSO 76-0507. All but three of the above nine are now confirmed UHP. Assuming 804, 806, and 808 are also UHP -- I did run AC reports on that group of nine a few years ago and they all went to UT originally -- there are 16 remaining under DSO 76-0507.

Could it be these?.....

1FABP26M8FF216667
1FABP26MXFF216668
1FABP26M1FF216669
1FABP26M8FF216670
1FABP26MXFF216671
1FABP26M1FF216672
1FABP26M3FF216673
1FABP26M5FF216674
1FABP26M7FF216675
1FABP26M9FF216676
1FABP26M0FF216677
1FABP26M2FF216678
1FABP26M4FF216679
1FABP26M0FF216680
1FABP26M2FF216681
1FABP26M4FF216682
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Or these?.....

1FABP26M4FF227228
1FABP26M6FF227229
1FABP26M2FF227230
1FABP26M4FF227231
1FABP26M6FF227232
1FABP26M8FF227233
1FABP26MXFF227234
1FABP26M1FF227235
1FABP26M3FF227236
1FABP26M5FF227237
1FABP26M7FF227238
1FABP26M9FF227239
1FABP26M5FF227240
1FABP26M7FF227241
1FABP26M9FF227242
1FABP26M0FF227243
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28HopUp 02-23-2017 04:09 PM

The remaining cars from that DSO number must be somewhere on the list of 1985 VINs. This is not the first time we've seen Ford divide a DSO into more than one batch of VINs with civilian cars in-between (in the early years of SSP production, at least).

Jonathon, thank you for posting up that information and congrats on the new SSP!

NoDrama43 02-23-2017 06:05 PM

cool information !!

ImEvil1 02-23-2017 06:33 PM

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Good stuff, thanks for posting.

Anyone want to guess what these are?

FoxChassis 02-24-2017 09:37 PM

possible 1984 OSP or WSP or other?
 
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https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=...2&RowNumber=21

Quote:

1984 Ford Mustang L
Stock#: 19332562
VIN: 1FABP26M4EF210704

VIN Details

VIN (Status): 1FABP26M4EF210704 (OK)
Vehicle: Automobile
Manufactured In: United States
Body Style: Sedan 2 Door
Vehicle Class: Non Luxury Sport Mid Size
Model: Mustang
Series: L
Engine: 5.0L V8 CRB OHV C
Fuel Type: Gasoline
Cylinders: 8 Cylinders
Transmission: Unknown
Drive Line Type: Rear Wheel Drive
Exterior/Interior: White / Gray
Entertainment: Tape Deck

IAA Condition Details

Loss: Other (Remarketing Division)
Primary Damage: Right Side
Secondary Damage: Roof
Odometer: 13,408 mi (Not Required/Exempt)
Start Code: Cannot Test Start
Key: Key(s) Present
Vehicle Wheels: Spare Tire Present, Alloy Wheels
It's not in the VIN project because it's in a group of 2 consecutive. BUT...when I was going through all the 1984 VINs I found 0 records for all body/engine combinations for EF201703, EF210706, and EF210707. It very well may be that those three VINs are also 5.0L coupes and all from EF210683 through EF210741 are one group of 59.

1FABP26M0EF210683
1FABP26M2EF210684
1FABP26M4EF210685
1FABP26M6EF210686
1FABP26M8EF210687
1FABP26MXEF210688
1FABP26M1EF210689 - Oregon State Police (Eminger Invoice)
1FABP26M8EF210690 - Oregon State Police
1FABP26MXEF210691
1FABP26M1EF210692
1FABP26M3EF210693
1FABP26M5EF210694
1FABP26M7EF210695
1FABP26M9EF210696
1FABP26M0EF210697
1FABP26M2EF210698
1FABP26M4EF210699
1FABP26M7EF210700
1FABP26M9EF210701
1FABP26M0EF210702
------------20-----------

1FABP26M2EF210703 ??

1FABP26M4EF210704 <<<<<
1FABP26M6EF210705
------------2------------

1FABP26M8EF210706 ??
1FABP26MXEF210707 ??

1FABP26M1EF210708
1FABP26M3EF210709
1FABP26MXEF210710
1FABP26M1EF210711
1FABP26M3EF210712
1FABP26M5EF210713
1FABP26M7EF210714 - Washington State Patrol (Eminger invoice)
1FABP26M9EF210715
1FABP26M0EF210716
1FABP26M2EF210717 - Washington State Patrol
1FABP26M4EF210718 - Washington State Patrol
1FABP26M6EF210719
1FABP26M2EF210720
1FABP26M4EF210721
1FABP26M6EF210722
1FABP26M8EF210723
1FABP26MXEF210724
1FABP26M1EF210725
1FABP26M3EF210726
1FABP26M5EF210727
1FABP26M7EF210728
1FABP26M9EF210729
1FABP26M5EF210730
1FABP26M7EF210731
1FABP26M9EF210732
1FABP26M0EF210733
1FABP26M2EF210734
1FABP26M4EF210735
1FABP26M6EF210736
1FABP26M8EF210737
1FABP26MXEF210738
1FABP26M1EF210739
1FABP26M8EF210740
1FABP26MXEF210741
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28HopUp 03-13-2017 01:44 PM

Mick,

I think you are probably right about the skipped VINs in that batching sequence and that they are all part of one batch. GF257563 is another one of those missing VINs which has confirmed SSPs with the same DSO number on either side of it in the Project.

28HopUp 03-13-2017 01:48 PM

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So there is a 154-car batch of 1985 CHP cars (DSO #72-0406) that has two VINs just prior to them in the same batch. Both of those cars were thought to be civilian vehicles. That year the CHP ordered 155 cars, so we knew there was another 1985 CHP car that is not part of that DSO batch. It is my understanding that the CHP would order a single Pilot Car to test the upfitting requirements of the new model year. Well, it turns out that the missing car was the VIN immediately positioned before the group of 154 cars. FF234785 was ordered under DSO #72-0405. I just received the attached photo of that car's Buck Tags and will add it to the Project. :)

MOstang 03-13-2017 08:19 PM

Cool! :cool:

FoxChassis 03-14-2017 08:15 AM

FF234785 is currently marked in the VIN Project as "not a SSP". Was a Marti report run on this VIN before that showed it with a non-special order DSO and without 'Special Service Package' in the equipment list?

Where did those buck tags show up? This is very cool. :)

28HopUp 03-14-2017 09:47 AM

Mick, I do not recall the reason behind identifying FF234785 as a civilian car. I thought that maybe we had run a Marti Report on it but I did not find one for it. I know we established the VIN range for DSO #72-0406 by finding the last VIN and counting backwards. I will update the Project tonight when I get home to add FF234785.

The Buck Tags were sent to me by a gentleman on Facebook. He also has a 90 CHP that I will be adding to the Project (actually, I have quite a few updates to make).

28HopUp 03-14-2017 10:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55034)
He also has a 90 CHP that I will be adding to the Project.

To expand upon this, CHPMustang was EXTREMELY lucky to be able to obtain a photocopy of his car's Assignment Card before they were all tossed into the trash by the CHP. Attached is that card, which will be used to add his car to the Project. Note that his car replaced #E435221, which we know to be this car:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211371.htm

As a 1989 model, #E435221 was a run-out by May of 1991 and had racked up over 90K miles in about two years. That isn't remarkable, but it does show how hard these cars were used in a short period.

CHPMustang 03-14-2017 03:01 PM

You guys talkin about me? ;) It's been a whirlwind over the past few days after discovering documents I have had in storage for maybe 2 decades. I didn't know that my specific 85 was on the "wanted list" all this time ;)

28HopUp 03-14-2017 03:34 PM

Glad to see that you were able to iron out your log-in issues. I will get your cars added tonight to the Project. :)

28HopUp 03-14-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55050)
Glad to see that you were able to iron out your log-in issues.

Gosh! You've had that account here since 2006. You've got some catching up to do!!! :D

28HopUp 03-15-2017 12:08 PM

The following pages were added or updated:

1FABP10F5CF234608 1982 "SSP Marketing Vehicle"
1FABP10F7CF234609 1982 "SSP Marketing Vehicle"
1FABP26F1DF165401 1983 Washington
1FAPB26M5FF234785 1985 CHP (DSO #72-0405)
1FABP26M7FF234786 1985 CHP (DSO #72-0406)
1FABP26M5GF257534 1986 Utah
1FACP40E0LF170264 1990 CHP #E389608
1FACP40E0LF163489 1990 NCSHP
1FACP40EXLF183667 1990 SCHP
1FACP40E4MF176490 1991 GSP
1FACP40E8NF140268 1992 SCHP
1FACP40E5PF194596 1993 City of West Jordan, UT



I may clean up the description on the pages for the two 1982 Marketing Vehicles and call each of them a "SSP Marketing Vehicle" since they do not list the SSP option on their Marti Reports. The wording on the Build Sheet for Mike's black 82 clearly shows that it was built in a similar way to the SSPs the CHP ordered earlier that model year.

:2thumbs:

mac88chp 03-15-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55036)
To expand upon this, CHPMustang was EXTREMELY lucky to be able to obtain a photocopy of his car's Assignment Card before they were all tossed into the trash by the CHP. Attached is that card, which will be used to add his car to the Project. Note that his car replaced #E435221, which we know to be this car:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info211371.htm

As a 1989 model, #E435221 was a run-out by May of 1991 and had racked up over 90K miles in about two years. That isn't remarkable, but it does show how hard these cars were used in a short period.

Yep, it took the Bakersfield office just over 16 months to roll 97k miles onto my car. Lots of wide open spaces out there in the Central Valley!

ImEvil1 03-15-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 55063)


I may clean up the description on the pages for the two 1982 Marketing Vehicles and call each of them a "SSP Marketing Vehicle" since they do not list the SSP option on their Marti Reports. The wording on the Build Sheet for Mike's black 82 clearly shows that it was built in a similar way to the SSPs the CHP ordered earlier that model year.

:2thumbs:

Thanks, Bill, but I wouldn't have spent that much time on it!

I'm good with the build sheet.

NoDrama43 03-16-2017 09:33 AM

It is my understanding that there is concrete documentation designating Mike's 1982 car as a marketing car right?

We know it was built as an SSP based on the build sheet right?

So therefore calling it an Marketing vehicle built to CHP SSP specs would be appropriate.

ImEvil1 03-16-2017 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoDrama43 (Post 55073)
It is my understanding that there is concrete documentation designating Mike's 1982 car as a marketing car right?

We know it was built as an SSP based on the build sheet right?

So therefore calling it an Marketing vehicle built to CHP SSP specs would be appropriate.


Here's my take on it (and why it's listed in my sig as an SSP).

The build sheets I have seen (and held in my hands) for '82 CHP cars do not list the SSP option; only '83-up has that wording on them. I haven't seen the wording on pre-'84 SSP buck tags, either.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...info213096.htm

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...06/177006b.jpg

We've used the 4 digit DSO + bucktags, buildsheets, + other documentation to try and establish "SSP status" of many cars over the years. The only items that concretely identify a car with the option are an original window sticker, Eminger invoice, or post '82 build sheet. We are certainly not experts, but this is what we've figured out up to this point, correct?

While the Marti report is a great resource, there have been mistakes/omissions with them. The 16 inch wheels listed on many '92-'93 cars, or as in my '82, the 185/14 wheels, are examples. Not running them down, just pointing out that the reports aren't perfect.

Nowhere in the Marti report for 234608 do any of the SSP options my '82 car has on it appear. The car has single-key locking, for example. I have all 4 original 14 inch SSP wheels. It came with the '82-only certified speedometer. Remote relocated decklid release, etc. We know that these options were not available in regular-production cars. They were, however, included on the '82 CHP cars, as shown in this Eminger invoice:

http://images49.fotki.com/v629/photo...2SSPpg1-vi.jpg

That's why I'm good with the build sheet. It was built just like the CHP units, and we have accepted those are SSPs, with out the SSP nomenclature listed anywhere but the Eminger invoices.


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