1993 SSP Mustang...anyone know what these tags are?

[merriampd4763]

Does anyone have an idea where this Mustang was from. The manufacture tag shows "OSO Police"

See listing here: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=270175394&dealer_id=1149173&car_year=1993&rdm=1258384180649&lastStartYear=1981&model=MUST&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1989&keywordsfyc=__c3BlY2lhbCBzZXJ2aWNl__&keywordsrep=11511210109910509710803211510111411810 5099101&engine=8%20Cylinder&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=used&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&sownerid=68345&showZipError=n&make=FORD&keywords_display=special%20service&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=66202&advanced=y&end_year=1993&doors=Two%20Door&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=1346&standard=false

[ImEvil1]

It's a government car (DSO 83).

[USPS SSP]

I own VIN #'s 614, 617, and 623 all of which were owned by the USPS and used by Postal Inspectors. This car along with the other one (listed on dealers website) just came out of service within the last two weeks.
Post Office cars were gently used. No high speed chases, no curb jumping, no countless hours just sitting with the engine idleing. Makes them a wise choice when looking for an SSP IMO.

Also, NO rust California cars !

[merriampd4763]

That is amazing that they were used in service for so long. Thanks for the information.

[USPS SSP]

Picked up my car on Wednesday and am very happy with it. It is super straight, clean, and completely original. I think Ford messed up when building it though - it has a hood insulator pad ! No, the hood was not replaced - all VIN tags in place.

Enough said about the FHP cars. I can say that the seller of the FHP on .ORG is a great guy. He is honest, very fair, and represents what he sells well. Just because he only owned the car for two months does it mean he can't advertise it as "restored" ? Two months is sufficient time to restore a car especially if the body and paint are completed.

I owned several SSP's and will say that the nicest ones are the USPS cars, and of course the 90 NY car that never went to service. All other that saw real police service were worn out, hammered cars ! Nobody is fooling anyone, Nobody has a "PERFECT" SSP that saw service. Lets just restore "them" and have fun ! Isn't that what it's all about ?

[ImEvil1]

Of course, your cars are the nicest ones, since they didn't see "harsh" service?

There are plenty of DSO 83 cars out there that didn't see normal police service. I'm sure there's plenty of other DSOs out there that weren't thrashed, either.

The seller from ORG is just that; a car dealer. He can advertise what he sells however he chooses. We are free to express our opinions here, and will continue to do so.

[FHP813]

Just because he only owned the car for two months does it mean he can't advertise it as "restored" ? Two months is sufficient time to restore a car especially if the body and paint are completed.

Paint and bodywork DOES NOT constitute a "restored" car my friend. The 86 in my garage has all of the paint and bodywork complete and is VERY far from restored.

Restore: To bring back to or put back into a former or original state.
As far as I know The mustang didn't come from the factory with ripped seats.

Stubes: No knock on what you started to do, and did to the car but unfortunately your attention to detail was not continued on when you sold the car. I think if you are buying cars to freshen up and flip the importance of the small (and very time consuming) details are overlooked.
My .02

[NoDrama43]

Plus 1 on what Mike and Bernie said.

after awhile it can be predictable. You can almost set your clock by when the next "unfortunate life event" is going to happen, requiring the sale of your latest aquisition. To each his own.

Jeff,

No offense to you but the Kool aid Kid from Keene got outed long ago. He doesn't "restore" cars, he makes cosmetic improvements and flips them. He can do what he wants, it really is insignificant to the big picture and not worthy of debate. He doesn't participate here but would certainly appreciate your glowing comments on org. Actually his very soul cries out for them ... I can hear him now....

Look at me....look at me...... look at me......please look at me....

Russ,

Knowbody is doubting your work or your focus. It's just the latest case of someone taking credit for someone elses hard work. The list just keeps growing.....

[USPS SSP]

Let me tell you something. I have been in the body shop business for more than 25 years, and have been in business for myself for more than 10 years. The most time intensive and expensive part of any restoration is the body and paint work. Having that completed the rest is easy if you have the necessary parts to put the car together. And lets not forget the seller has restored many, many SSP Mustangs ! That car was as restored as any other advertised restored car is plain and simple.

[FHP813]

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I guess the restored cars I've seen are super restored because EVERY piece of the car was replaced or refinished. That is what I would call restored.

PS The "sellers" shop crew restored all of those cars.

[ImEvil1]

Let me tell you something. I have been in the body shop business for more than 25 years, and have been in business for myself for more than 10 years. The most time intensive and expensive part of any restoration is the body and paint work. Having that completed the rest is easy if you have the necessary parts to put the car together. And lets not forget the seller has restored many, many SSP Mustangs ! That car was as restored as any other advertised restored car is plain and simple.

He may have painted many, many SSP Mustangs, but he hasn't restored any.

The car we are talking about wasn't even painted by him....it was done by a previous owner.

I think we might be talking about "restifying" here.....it's not restoration, though......but we can agree to disagree.

[CNTLOSE]

This is getting real old. What is the need to trash other people and their cars? Really, can some one please tell me? Why is it everytime I log on here the only updates are b*tching about somebody or somebody's car?

I would like to know how many 100% PERFECT Restored cars are out there? I'm sure only a handful. But probably quite a few that are in the 80%-90% column. Anyone who makes a TRUE 100% correct SSP car is probably going to do nothing but stare at it in the garage, the trailer, and the car show parking lot...and what fun is that? I'm sure most people like to drive and enjoy their car...me included.

Just my .02, but can this site please return to the days of talking about SSP Mustang history, asking questions about restorations, and helping each other enjoy the hobby a little bit more.

[USPS SSP]

I agree. Restoration is an abused word. A restored car is stripped of each part that makes up its assembly then each part is disassembled and rebuilt both mechanically and cosmeticly, then reassembled. Very very few cars that are advertised as "restored" are truly restored. I'm out ...

[ImEvil1]

I think you may have confused this website with another.

We talk about the cars here, discuss pertinent issues, and aren't afraid to call BS when we see it.

It's not for everyone, so if it upsets you, I'd suggest that you refrain from reading it.

[ImEvil1]

I agree. Restoration is an abused word. A restored car is stripped of each part that makes up its assembly then each part is disassembled and rebuilt both mechanically and cosmeticly, then reassembled. Very very few cars that are advertised as "restored" are truly restored. I'm out ...

See....then we do agree. I saw one that was restored in that manner. It belonged to Jim Y. It may not have been perfect, but it was RESTORED, and advertised as such when he sold it. You are basically saying that the car that just sold was advertised as restored and it wasn't.....which is what several of us believe.

[NoDrama43]

And lets not forget the seller has restored many, many SSP Mustangs ! That car was as restored as any other advertised restored car is plain and simple.

again I disagree. If you buy a car and then.

1. have your painter paint it,
2. have your mechanic change the oil and do a 100 point inspection.
3. have your lot tech drop it off at Firestone for new tires.
4. have your lot tech drop it off at the car wash for a detailing.
5. hang a "State Trooper" hat on the headrest. :rolleyes:

you are in no way doing a restoration on a car. To assume so is an insult to individuals that actually do restore their cars, doing as much of the work as they can themselves. What is even worse is when you buy a car that someone has worked their butt off on, then accept credit for the work as your own.

You are free to be as impressed and awed with anything or anyone you choose but I predict that like the growing list of other people, eventually you will begin to recognise the BS and see the smoke and mirror game for what it is.

If you buy and sell 1000 corvettes it doesn't make you an expert source regarding their history. That makes you a corvette car dealer. It is what it is.