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28HopUp 08-04-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 21440)
Cool stuff, Bill, and I'm glad you were able to get those. Can you ask him for some of the antenna-coupler boxes the next time you talk to him? I haven't talked to him in a few years.

Jim, he never was able to find my card, and I didn't want to bother him about the incorrect shotgun rack he sent me since he was having health problems. Guess he is still doing ok. Whoever "Sparks" was talking to sent him a photocopy of my card, so somebody had their hands on it at some point.

Mike,

I will be in contact with him soon, and will certainly ask about the antenna coupler boxes. I'm not sure who SparkSVT had gotten copies of those cards from, but Chris told me it wasn't Mr. Read. Andy's card was among those found at that time, but apparently it was not put back in the right spot because Mr. Read could not find it again.

I terms of going to Sacramento, I would love to get a chance to cull through the files myself and look for cards identified as being for Mustangs. I don't know if the CHP would allow a civilian to go through their records and keep those cards or not

Va 5.0 08-04-2010 01:25 PM

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What is the R.F. Color?
Hey, looking at scanner sites around California it looks like the R.F.color box on the assignment card may refer to frequency alpha tags. Mine was showing copper and the frequency alpha tag showing on a scanner sites for the chp shows copper as an alpha tag for San Bernardino(860). According to this site the alpha tag might indicate what is displayed on a users radio or a channel designation by the agency.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=995

ImEvil1 08-04-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 21456)
Mike,

I will be in contact with him soon, and will certainly ask about the antenna coupler boxes. I'm not sure who SparkSVT had gotten copies of those cards from, but Chris told me it wasn't Mr. Read. Andy's card was among those found at that time, but apparently it was not put back in the right spot because Mr. Read could not find it again.

I terms of going to Sacramento, I would love to get a chance to cull through the files myself and look for cards identified as being for Mustangs. I don't know if the CHP would allow a civilian to go through their records and keep those cards or not

Thanks, Bill. I'm not sure who it was, either, but I'd sure like to get my card.

ImEvil1 08-04-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Va 5.0 (Post 21458)
Hey, looking at scanner sites around California it looks like the R.F.color box on the assignment card may refer to frequency alpha tags. Mine was showing copper and the frequency alpha tag showing on a scanner sites for the chp shows copper as an alpha tag for San Bernardino(860). According to this site the alpha tag might indicate what is displayed on a users radio or a channel designation by the agency.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=995

Good info, Jack. Can anyone who knows what region their car was from and has assignment card confirm?

28HopUp 10-27-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ImEvil1 (Post 21462)
Good info, Jack. Can anyone who knows what region their car was from and has assignment card confirm?

Here is my Assignment Card -

http://www.mustangcollective.com/ima...d3e779bb24.jpg

My car served at Quincy Station, which according to Jack's link would have an AMBER identification from Susanville Dispatch Center. But the RED on my card is for Redding Dispatch Center. Both centers are in the Northern Division.

Perhaps there was a reason for my car to have a neighboring frequency? Perhaps the data listed in Jack's link only reflects current information? Error on card?

ImEvil1 10-27-2010 10:55 PM

Interesting info.

Ever hear from Rob about the antenna boxes?

28HopUp 10-28-2010 06:39 AM

No, but I did hear that his wife's health wasn't great.

mac88chp 10-28-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 22404)
Perhaps there was a reason for my car to have a neighboring frequency? Perhaps the data listed in Jack's link only reflects current information? Error on card?

The link referenced is the current frequency information. If I had to guess, it would be that the Susanville Dispatch Center was not operational when your car was in service and the Quincy office was dispatched from Redding. That part of the state is very sparcely populated and without a doubt was even more so a quarter of a century ago.

Wolfe1013 05-27-2011 12:04 AM

Has anyone been able to fully decode the assignment cards?

Bill, I truly appreciate your help. In the end, I have mine in my hands after a long wait. No Eminger Invoice, but I have the assignment card, now!!

Greg

NoDrama43 07-27-2011 10:31 PM

another excellent day !!
 
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Steve was nice enought to go by Motor Transport in Sacto and request the assignment card for 1982 CHP unit 0594. It arrived in the mail yesterday !!!

a big thanks to Steve !!!!!

front side:

NoDrama43 07-27-2011 10:32 PM

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The car still wears the white paint it left the CHP with. :) It was sold in November 1985 with 85,633 miles. The car served in Sonora CA.

back side:

28HopUp 07-28-2011 02:54 PM

Jim, that's great that your card was discovered, despite the fact that I had asked about it before. I hope that Steve continues to have success in future requests for these cards.

Interesting that the front of your card lists no specific usage (similar to mine). At least you were able to determine the CHP Office where it served. :2thumbs:

mac88chp 07-28-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 28040)
Interesting that the front of your card lists no specific usage (similar to mine). At least you were able to determine the CHP Office where it served. :2thumbs:

Huh? I see the assignment location (425 = Sonora) marked in the "LOC. CODE" box in the lower right corner on the front of the card. I believe the "Sacto E" notation above it was added when it came back as a runout - was also sometimes written higher up in the lined area.

28HopUp 07-28-2011 03:53 PM

Michael, I was talking about the top part of the front card. Some of the cards I've seen (like Steve's) had notations in that area about where the car served or how it was used. In contrast, my card was like Jim's. I should have been more clear in my wording (I've been posting via my phone this afternoon while waiting at DMV)

28HopUp 09-21-2011 11:30 AM

This is somewhat of a repost. Back in August, I was able to provide the seller of the 85 CHP in New Orleans with the Assignment Card for #E408306 -

http://images59.fotki.com/v683/photo...6/8306A-vi.jpg

http://images18.fotki.com/v341/photo...6/8306B-vi.jpg


Using this CHP Office Finder, the car was initially assigned to CHP Office #126 in Garberville, CA, but was immediately exchanged to CHP Office #150 in Ukiah, CA (Northwest of Sacramento). It replaced a 1982 (#E870580), and was replaced with a 1987 (#E422957). The scan doesn't show it well, but you can see on the card where the writer started to describe #8306 as a Dodge Diplomat. Since this car has one of the lowest known Unit Numbers for 1985, I could see where he/she would have written that out of habit (much like dating a personal check in January with the prior year). To my knowledge, this car is still for sale.

I am expecting another Assignment Card to arrive shortly from Mr. Read, which I will certainly post up here. As a teaser, this card should be interesting to see what it says!

93chipper 10-10-2011 04:01 PM

if you are able to still get assignment cards can you look up 1993 unit plate number E895333 please

kapracing 10-11-2011 08:43 AM

If your still able could you find one for my 1990 unit number 9583 is all I have... Thanks, Bobby

28HopUp 10-11-2011 09:39 AM

Guys, I will add yours to the list. I recently requested 4 cards, and at least one of them should be arriving shortly. Once it/they come in, I will ask again for yours. I try to gang the requests together so I don't abuse the courtesy being extended to me by requesting cards for the group.

kapracing 10-11-2011 11:35 AM

Thanks for all you've done. I really appreciate your trying... I'VE GOT MY FINGERS CROSSED... LOL

mac88chp 10-11-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 30310)
Guys, I will add yours to the list. I recently requested 4 cards, and at least one of them should be arriving shortly. Once it/they come in, I will ask again for yours. I try to gang the requests together so I don't abuse the courtesy being extended to me by requesting cards for the group.

That is a great point Bill and I'll reinforce it. Everyone here needs to realize that the search and retreival of these cards is being done by a sole individual on his own time and he's getting requests from far and wide and not just from us so please have patience with the process.

Mustang Kid 10-13-2011 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 30310)
Guys, I will add yours to the list. I recently requested 4 cards, and at least one of them should be arriving shortly. Once it/they come in, I will ask again for yours. I try to gang the requests together so I don't abuse the courtesy being extended to me by requesting cards for the group.

You gonna post it up when you get it? Always intersting to see them for different cars:)

28HopUp 10-13-2011 11:04 PM

Absolutely Sam! All it takes is patience. :)

28HopUp 10-18-2011 08:56 AM

Well, a box was delivered yesterday with some CHP parts from Robert Read (all are spoken for already, sorry!). The box also contained an Assignment Card. I was hoping that there would be more than one card, as I had requested three more cards in addition to the one I received. It is entirely possible that the box was shipped prior to the search being made for the three add'l cards, so I have a call into Mr. Read to see if he found those cards or not. Keep your fingers crossed!

So let's get to the good news. Here is an in-service picture of a known 1985 SMPV (Specially Marked Patrol Vehicle).

http://mustangforums.com/forum/membe...f-maybe-25.jpg


Since the license plate was clearly visible, I put in a request for this car's Assignment Card -

http://images15.fotki.com/v2/photos/...408383a-vi.jpg

http://images51.fotki.com/v282/photo...408383b-vi.jpg

There are some interesting things about this particular card:
  • The card clearly states that the vehicle was repainted/converted "sp. veh. truck speed enf.", and the car color was changed from "B&W" to white. This card clearly identifies this car as a SMPV.
  • The car had a MX7000 scanner installed as part of its equipment, which is the first time I've seen this specficially listed.
  • Location Code 560 is not shown in the current list of CHP Offices. So can we ever tell where this car served?
  • Using the chart of current CHP radio frequencies, the are two TAN R.F. Colors: 1) TAN1, used in Oceanside and Temecula; and 2) TAN2, used in Newhall and Antelope Valley. Again, these are the current colors, and changes may have happened since this car was in-service.
  • In the lower right corner, there is a statement saying "will paint E413744", but that unit is not listed as having been the one to replace E408383. So why is it shown on this card?
  • The car was auctioned off 11 months after it was converted into a SMPV.


So again we have just as many unanswered questions compared to what we have learned. As an aside, I ran the VIN through the CA Smog Records, but no listing was found. I also ran a Carfax, but the car dropped off the page in 1997. This one is probably gone forever, but you never know.

FoxChassis 10-18-2011 12:19 PM

I have 1FABP26M3FF234896 in the database as being listed on ebay in Anaheim, CA in March of 2010.

28HopUp 10-18-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 30547)
I have 1FABP26M3FF234896 in the database as being listed on ebay in Anaheim, CA in March of 2010.

Holy Smokes! I contacted the seller of that car in 2010, and still have the pictures he sent me. He never was able to confirm the Unit Number for me, so I decided not to pursue it. :(

Here is the ad from when it was listed here -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=2518


EDIT: I just sent the seller an email to see if he still has the car. I will let you know if I am able to track this car down.

And here are the pictures -

FoxChassis 10-18-2011 02:50 PM

So is the unit number the last four of the plate number, i.e. 8383?

mac88chp 10-18-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxChassis (Post 30549)
So is the unit number the last four of the plate number, i.e. 8383?

Yeah.

texunter 10-18-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 30548)
Holy Smokes! I spoke with the seller of that car and still have pictures. He never was able to confirm the Unit Number for me, so I decided not to pursue it. :(

Here is the ad from when it was listed here -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net...ead.php?t=2518


EDIT: I just sent the seller an email to see if he still has the car. I will let you know if I am able to track this car down.

And here are the pictures -

If you only knew then what you know now...... That sucks!
Hopefully its still available.

Va 5.0 10-18-2011 03:31 PM

Maybe Steve would know what location 560 was? I am thinking maybe it was assigned to the truck scales ?

ImEvil1 10-18-2011 06:44 PM

What are the odds? Hope it turns back up...

Mustang Kid 10-18-2011 08:27 PM

So would 8383 be one of the rarest 85s?

texunter 10-18-2011 08:53 PM

It's rare to find that much documentation on any car much less an SMPV.
Another member has a pretty blue and white SMPV but it's an aero car.
I don't think there has ever been a confirmed four eyed SMPV.
To me they are like ghosts of a b&w that have only been seen by a select few but remain a sort of myth if you will.
Awesome cars with a highly unique history. I hope you guys find that car and bring it back to our lovely retirement community! ;)

28HopUp 10-19-2011 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang Kid (Post 30560)
So would 8383 be one of the rarest 85s?

Sam, rarity is a relative term, and being rare does not always equate to being desirable. There's an extremely rare New Edge Mustang around here with a seldom-seen green body and a tan top. The car is rare, but the combination is butt-ugly and not many folks would ever want to own it.

In terms of 1985 SSP's, of the 155 CHP Mustangs that year, it is estimated that only 20-25 of the in-service B&W Mustangs were repainted/converted into Specially Marked Patrol Vehicles (SMPV's). This car (#E408383) is the first confirmed 1985 SMPV to surface, and the only way we know that is because the Assignment Card was found by looking for a known unit number based upon an in-service picture that turned up at the end of 2010. Finding the CHP documentation is critical for verifying a CHP Mustang as a SMPV. And Texunter is correct, other than Ken's 1989 Blue & White SMPV, no others have turned up yet. So yes Sam, this car is rare.

But there are other rare 85's out there. Rich (CHP8336) has 1 of the 3 1985 Nevada SSP's, of which one was totaled right after the NHP upfitted the car for service. So Rich's NHP is a very rare 85 SSP, but there are certainly other rare SSP's as well. If you look at other years of SSP's, there are some extremely rare cars out there.

In terms of #E408383, if I don't get in touch with the seller from 2010, I will just keep an eye out for it to surface again. Rich combs through the California listings on CL and ebay, and he promised to keep an eye out for this car. Hopefully, we can bring it back into the SSP family.

ssp91ssp 10-19-2011 10:48 AM

NICE detective work guys!!!! She will turn up.....they all do!
Grab some popcorn n wait.;)

kapracing 10-19-2011 09:49 PM

I've got mine crossed. I have nothing on my 90Chp but the unit# . I know some don't even have that but I'm still hoping my card turns up. Thanks for all you do...

15559 10-21-2011 12:58 AM

Car 8383
 
Hey guys Im new to this site and I plan on getting a CHP mustang in the near future. As for your question of area 560. I dont believe there is such an area. However, if there was it would be in southern division (southern California).

Mustang Kid 10-21-2011 05:19 PM

Sorry, I was reffering to 85 CHPs. But well said Bill:thumbsup:
My dad has a magazine that has a photo of a wrecked 85-6 NHP SSP in it.
Was the wrecked test car involved in a roll over?

texunter 10-21-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 15559 (Post 30610)
Hey guys Im new to this site and I plan on getting a CHP mustang in the near future. As for your question of area 560. I dont believe there is such an area. However, if there was it would be in southern division (southern California).

Its written in black ink.......

15559 10-22-2011 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by texunter (Post 30632)
Its written in black ink.......

I noticed that on the assignment card you received from Robert. I will see what I can find out for you.

CHP8336 10-23-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 28HopUp (Post 30568)
Sam, rarity is a relative term, and being rare does not always equate to being desirable. There's an extremely rare New Edge Mustang around here with a seldom-seen green body and a tan top. The car is rare, but the combination is butt-ugly and not many folks would ever want to own it.

In terms of 1985 SSP's, of the 155 CHP Mustangs that year, it is estimated that only 20-25 of the in-service B&W Mustangs were repainted/converted into Specially Marked Patrol Vehicles (SMPV's). This car (#E408383) is the first confirmed 1985 SMPV to surface, and the only way we know that is because the Assignment Card was found by looking for a known unit number based upon an in-service picture that turned up at the end of 2010. Finding the CHP documentation is critical for verifying a CHP Mustang as a SMPV. And Texunter is correct, other than Ken's 1989 Blue & White SMPV, no others have turned up yet. So yes Sam, this car is rare.

But there are other rare 85's out there. Rich (CHP8336) has 1 of the 3 1985 Nevada SSP's, of which one was totaled right after the NHP upfitted the car for service. So Rich's NHP is a very rare 85 SSP, but there are certainly other rare SSP's as well. If you look at other years of SSP's, there are some extremely rare cars out there.

In terms of #E408383, if I don't get in touch with the seller from 2010, I will just keep an eye out for it to surface again. Rich combs through the California listings on CL and ebay, and he promised to keep an eye out for this car. Hopefully, we can bring it back into the SSP family.

Thanks Bill!! I look almost every day for any 4 eye SSP cars. I hope to find 8383. I will look VERY hard for this car. I will post all 4 eye cars here as usual. :D


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