1989 $50K CHP Mustang For Sale

[28HopUp]

Rich, I think you should buy it!

Originally Posted by MOstang

What a mistake IMO...."Top signed by Pete Carrol and Carrol Shelby."

Mike, you're not alone in that opinion. Can somebody remind me what significance Pete Carol and Carrol Shelby had with the SSP Mustangs or the CHP? Absolutely nothing, which is what their signatures add to this car. Perhaps a new owner can use some polishing compound to remove those ink marks. And the fake bullet holes and other stickers should peel off, right?

[Cobra Jet]

So, let me ask this...

What makes this CHP EVOC so signifigant over any other known surviving CHP EVOC out there, that IT commands a $50k asking price?

Also, how did the current owner acquire the vehicle?

What is deemed "VERY FAST" by the Seller's craigslist statement? LOL...

[mac88chp]

This car and its owner have been well known in Northern CA for some time and are the subject of this 1996 article:



You can read it here (3 pages):

http://public.fotki.com/Classicchp/s...hp88evoc1.html

The owner has claimed that the car came from the CHP with the red GT seating but I don't believe that fact has ever been confirmed. The presence of the door moldings and trailer hitch are also a bit puzzling but aside from those items plus the roof signatures and the stupid assortment of juvenile stickers that have been added the car is unrestored and mostly original.

It didn't appear in the famous EVOC video featuring the 1992 Mustang because that's the year it was sold off and that video was made some years later. Bottom line: it's a very interesting CHP unit that should be preserved (NOT restored) back to its original condition and deserves better treatment and stewardship than it has received for many years but is no way worth even half the current asking price.

[GSPI]

I'd say you are looking at at least a restoration of suspension and critical frame components. EVOC cars are the worst for abuse and carry the most significant issues even with their low miles on the cars, Mustang or not. Face it, these cars are flogged to the point of no return and will not be a good choice if you want reliability unless you spend time going through the suspension, structural points on the car.

As for the seats, it's possible that they replaced them over time as the original seats get worn out but I'd be skeptical of them coming that way from CHP. Interesting $5000.00 car.

[GSPI]

You know, I just noticed this line in the ad:

Owner is the head instructor at Cal and UCLA in collecting and restoring of "Classic Cars"

I checked UCLA's and Cal's websites and could not find any classes in this area. Very Strange.

[mac88chp]

Originally Posted by GSPI

I'd say you are looking at at least a restoration of suspension and critical frame components. EVOC cars are the worst for abuse and carry the most significant issues even with their low miles on the cars, Mustang or not. Face it, these cars are flogged to the point of no return and will not be a good choice if you want reliability unless you spend time going through the suspension, structural points on the car.

The owner has also done his fair share of flogging the car post-CHP having run the car for years at open track events:



Some chassis rebuilding is a given here but remember that these are very tough little cars. There are tons of Fox Mustangs, SSPs and non, that are still out there on the tracks today.

Originally Posted by GSPI

As for the seats, it's possible that they replaced them over time as the original seats get worn out but I'd be skeptical of them coming that way from CHP. Interesting $5000.00 car.

Maybe they replaced them as a cheap upgrade when a pair became available. Anything's possible...the '92 EVOC car came from the CHP equipped with an air inlet tube and filter housing off a '94 Mustang.

[ImEvil1]

Just goes to show....any Jackass can get into a magazine.

[Cobra Jet]

curiousity is getting me...

Sooo... has anyone ever talked to the Owner of this EVOC and received any reasoning whatsoever as to why he's asking such an exhorbitant amount of money for that car?

Does this Owner (or vehicle) show up to any SSP shows or belong to any sites?

I mean, ok, it's a CHP EVOC, it has some interesting history, appears to be in somewhat original shape even after retirement - but, I'm just not seeing anything really spectacular that commands a $50k, $40k, $30k or say even mid to high $20k price tag on that vehicle...

A magazine article & signatures - is that why the price is so high?

Low miles? I guess one can say it has low miles which could play a role in its value, but in the same instance, that can be subject to debate since some would say those miles were not pampered miles.

To me, that car having signatures on it, regardless of who's signatures they are (or what they may or may not represent), should really have no bearing at all to the REALISTIC value at which to sell such a vehicle - am I wrong in saying that?

I think it's a really neat Mustang to definitely own AND preserve - but, at it's current asking price, it's never going to sell (unless there's just that one person who has $50k to burn and does not care what that $50k buys).

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm in no way bashing the Seller or Owner, but, there's a point in time when common sense should prevail... well, one would hope....