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[stadair]

Whoa! 111906 is just 2 VIN #'s before mine! And it's painted all white! With no spotlights! Mine does not have holes for spotlights! So...mine could have been used painted all grey? That's what color is under the hood and trunk lid. Grey is the color that covered up the B&W. And mine could have had the plate number 895311 or 895312? I like... :-)

[stadair]

Whoa! 111906 is just 2 VIN #'s before mine! And it's painted all white! With no spotlights! Mine does not have holes for spotlights! So...mine could have been used painted all grey? That's what color is under the hood and trunk lid. Grey is the color that covered up the B&W. And mine could have had the plate number 895311 or 895312? I like... :-)

Oh, forget E895311. I see that VIN #111911 has that plate...

[93chipper]

it can also be a 88 plate because they had 2 different prefixes in 93 they had a 88 plate and a 89 plate and 5312 was smogged in 99,98 and 96

[28HopUp]

Here is an interesting one, where the efforts of our group come together to verify a car. Using Aaron's method to verify cars through the CA smog site, in-service pictures from 1996 by Michael/mac88chp, and a coming out of service picture from Sam/MustangKid, we now have another car locked up in our project:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1993CHP189137/info189137.htm

:D

[93chipper]

it looks to be chp ordered WAY more than 150 ssps for 1993 my plate numbers are at 170 and counting and it does not count some units i cannot find

[28HopUp]

Aaron, our VIN Project supports your assertion that the CHP ordered more than the reported 150 SSPs in 1993. That year, SSPs were ordered by the CHP under two DSO numbers: 72-0009; and 72-0202. If we use the information in the VIN Project and only look at SSPs with the DSOs confirmed, we can determine the highest and lowest VINs in each batch, as follows:


DSO 72-0009
. . 112014 (highest VIN so far)
. - 111876 (lowest VIN so far)
. . . .139 units *

DSO 72-0202
. . 189153 (highest VIN so far)
. - 189093 (lowest VIN so far)
. . . . 61 units *

And if you look at the 1993 page, you will see that we have many other CHP Mustangs confirmed via smog reports to extend the range of VINs even further. So you are correct, Aaron.

* - When you count the VINs and include the lower and higher cars each time, the totals are bumped 1 more than the math would indicate.

[93chipper]

the 60 that we are just finding out are looking to be alot of the 88 plates and i found that unit that you have the door pic on the vin registry of being E881546

[28HopUp]

Whoa! 111906 is just 2 VIN #'s before mine! And it's painted all white! With no spotlights! Mine does not have holes for spotlights! So...mine could have been used painted all grey? That's what color is under the hood and trunk lid. Grey is the color that covered up the B&W. And mine could have had the plate number 895311 or 895312? I like... :-)

Toshi, did you ever notice the following picture posted up in the Motor Transport thread?

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm553035.jpg


Is the gray Mustang the same shade as your repaint? The above car has tinted windows, and no whip antenna on the 1/4 panel.

[mac88chp]

Toshi, did you ever notice the following picture posted up in the Motor Transport thread?

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm553035.jpg


Is the gray Mustang the same shade as your repaint? The above car has tinted windows, and no whip antenna on the 1/4 panel.It also has a deck lid "LX" emblem...those were deleted on the Mustang orders. I suspect that car may be an old patrol unit that was converted to an undercover unit. Those were easy to spot in the Motor Transport sale lot. Besides the big stereos and tints added, they had little things like that done to them to help make them look like convincing "civilian" vehicles.

[28HopUp]

Thanks for the info, Michael. That may be helpful to Toshi.

Aaron sent me 70 more smog matches - WOW! That must have taken a large chunk of time to go through. We will grab screenshots of those and add them in the next week or so to the project. There are several SSPs that I found to be particularly interesting because we have in-service pictures of them -

1FACP40E4PF189101 = E881541
...as shown in Michael's Fotki album:
http://public.fotki.com/Classicchp/vintage_chp_photos/chpmustang5.html



1FACP40E4PF189132 = E881629
...as seen in Sam's Motor Transport thread:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm6-1.jpg



1FACP40EXPF189135 = E881550
...as seen in Sam's Motor Transport thread:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm7.jpg



1FACP40E4PF189146 = E881553
...as shown in Michael's Fotki album:
http://public.fotki.com/Classicchp/vintage_chp_photos/chpmustang1.html



1FACP40E3PF189171 = E881556
...as seen in Sam's Motor Transport thread:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm3.jpg



1FACP40E2PF189212 = E881610
...as seen in Sam's Motor Transport thread:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm8.jpg



VERY cool indeed!!!

[stadair]

Toshi, did you ever notice the following picture posted up in the Motor Transport thread?

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm553035.jpg


Is the gray Mustang the same shade as your repaint? The above car has tinted windows, and no whip antenna on the 1/4 panel.

No way! No, I did not see this picture before. Yes, that is the same color gray that is still on the underside of the hood and trunk lid! Wow! That could be it! When I got it, it had tint on ALL the glass, the windshield as well.

[93chipper]

mine was painted that color when it was decomissioned

[stadair]

93Chipper,

Mine '93 has three coats of paint. The original B&W, the gray and currently Reef Blue. The gray is still on the underside of the hood & trunk.

[Mustang Kid]

How did I miss that post!

Certainly could be it. CHP wouldn't park sale cars in the main lot after they were painted. Probably was used as an undercover, or travel car. Maybe was turned into a commander car?

Does your car have the tell tale CHP mounting holes in various locations?

Interesting how many cars at MT have inservice pictures to attach to them. I'd love to track down a couple of those cars...

[Mustang Kid]

And oh yeah.

1987 CHP Plate/Unit# range- E422886-E423060.

[93chipper]

mine has 2 coats it has black and white under the gray that it was painted in 98-99

[FoxChassis]

And oh yeah.

1987 CHP Plate/Unit# range- E422886-E423060.

That plate range is a total of 175. The VIN Project page has the first 170 plates (E422886 through E423055) accounted for. I wonder which VINs those last five plates (E423056 through E423060) were associated with? I just check the smog check plate lookup and there were no records for those last five plates.

[Mustang Kid]

That plate range is a total of 175. The VIN Project page has the first 170 plates (E422886 through E423055) accounted for. I wonder which VINs those last five plates (E423056 through E423060) were associated with? I just check the smog check plate lookup and there were no records for those last five plates.

Huh...

Got that info off of legit CHP documents. Stated 175 Mustangs.

[93chipper]

you cant find every plate by looking up smog records im missing some that i cant find and it is harder to go back over 20 years ago records to look at plates i noticed some of the vins dropped some smog reports compared to the plates

[FoxChassis]

Huh...

Got that info off of legit CHP documents. Stated 175 Mustangs.
Sam, I wasn't saying that info was not legit. What I was saying was on the 1987 VIN Project page there is a large batch of 172 VINs (184710-184881) and the first 170 of those plates are in that batch (all but the first two VINs). I was wondering which VINs the last five of those plate numbers were associated with.

In the middle of typing this reply I went back to the 1987 VIN Project page and found those last five plates in a batch of five VINs (219944-219948). So :thumbsup: to you for helping me to discover that.

Mick

[FoxChassis]

Also, in that batch of 170 CHPs, the first 85 had FY (Beige cloth) trim and the second 85 had FG (Medium Grey cloth) trim. I wonder what the small batch of five had for trim. I am also curious as to why those five were ordered separately and what the CHP used them for.

[28HopUp]

In the middle of typing this reply I went back to the 1987 VIN Project page and found those last five plates in a batch of five VINs (219944-219948). So :thumbsup: to you for helping me to discover that.

Mick, we need to add those 5 VINs to our project. Can you shoot me the complete VINs and any add'l documentation about those cars? I will add them to the project. :)

[FoxChassis]

Mick, we need to add those 5 VINs to our project. Can you shoot me the complete VINs and any add'l documentation about those cars? I will add them to the project. :)

Bill:

I made a typo on the CUN. Instead of 219944-219948 I meant to type 229944-229948. I don't have any additional info other than what is already on each of those pages.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/JY/info229944.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/JY/info229945.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/JY/info229946.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/JY/info229947.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/JY/info229948.htm

Mick

[stadair]

How did I miss that post!

Certainly could be it. CHP wouldn't park sale cars in the main lot after they were painted. Probably was used as an undercover, or travel car. Maybe was turned into a commander car?

Does your car have the tell tale CHP mounting holes in various locations?

Interesting how many cars at MT have inservice pictures to attach to them. I'd love to track down a couple of those cars...

I'm assuming you are speaking to me...

My car has no holes what so ever. None in the A-pillar, interior plastic, package tray, roof, or quarter panel. I believe it has an reproduction front bumper as it does not have the 'MUSTANG' text. So if it had any holes in the original, we'll never know.

When they repainted before sale, did they typically paint the undersides of the hood and trunk? Because they just left it all closed up when they painted the Reef Blue, except for they painted the door jams and inside of the doors, too.

[28HopUp]

I made a typo on the CUN.

Haha! That's them. :D Thanks for clarifying...

[28HopUp]

Thanks to Aaron, we have added a few more 1993 CHP Mustangs to the project. The new additions start at 189075, as seen here on the 1993 page -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/93VIN.html


Pay attention to 189101, 189132, 189135, 189146, 189171, and 189212 which are the cars posted a couple of pages back where we have now matched in-service pictures to specific VINs using the CA smog site. I have 49 more cars to add using the smog information provided by Aaron, which I will get to as time allows. :)

[28HopUp]

All of Aaron's matches have been listed (thanks again!). In addition, I did a random SSP search and found a for-sale listing for a 1993 SSP that supposedly was originally ordered by Clayton County Georgia. Thankfully, the ad included a picture of the Buck Tags -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993MISC202870/info202870.htm

Just two cars later is the never-in-service Mesquite, Texas SSP (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993NISMesquiteTX202872/info202872.htm), which are both part of a 14-car batch of VINs.

:)

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

All of Aaron's matches have been listed (thanks again!). In addition, I did a random SSP search and found a for-sale listing for a 1993 SSP that supposedly was originally ordered by Clayton County Georgia. Thankfully, the ad included a picture of the Buck Tags -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993MISC202870/info202870.htm

Just two cars later is the never-in-service Mesquite, Texas SSP (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993NISMesquiteTX202872/info202872.htm), which are both part of a 14-car batch of VINs.

:)

Yesterday I talked to the owner of "never-in-service Mesquite, Texas SSP" here in MN and he has put 4k miles on the car this year (now 5k total).

[28HopUp]

Nice to hear that he is enjoying the car!

Mick aka FoxChassis just provided us with a bunch of the CA smog matches for some 1992 CHP Mustangs, which we just put into the VIN Project:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111618.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111635.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111646.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111648.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111674.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111684.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111686.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111689.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111697.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111704.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111716.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111728.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHPsmog/info111751.htm


:)

[MOstang]

Yesterday I talked to the owner of "never-in-service Mesquite, Texas SSP" here in MN and he has put 4k miles on the car this year (now 5k total).

Good to hear..that's the way to enjoy it!

[28HopUp]

Here is a perfect example of why I love this forum and appreciate its members. Using Aaron's method to match California smog certificates, Mick was able to pair up the VIN and e-plate numbers on a certain 1992 CHP Mustang still owned by the CHP, allowing us to create a VIN Project page using in-service pictures provided by Sam and MikeC.

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHP176002/info176002.htm


An here are two more VIN Project pages where the group effort has identified the VIN for cars with in-service pictures:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHP175981/info175981.htm (a white SMPV)
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1992CHP175985/info175985.htm (a cover-shot from the CA Highway Patrolman mag)


These are great examples of the collaborative nature of this project! :2thumbs: Perhaps that explains why this is the most viewed thread on this website.

[28HopUp]

Mick, aka FoxChassis, must be part bloodhound! :) He discovered that the State of Florida DMV website has an online resource tool to search for VIN history. He started with the suspected VIN range for the 1983 Florida SSP Mustangs, and found POLICE branded history on 20 cars! Here is a sampling of what we added to the VIN Project this weekend -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/FHP/1983FHP215926/info215926.htm


The Florida site is a great resource for our project where we know a suspected range of VINs containing documented SSP Mustangs. Who knows what will turn up when looking for information on other-year SSP Mustangs from the FHP??? Stay tuned... :D

[FoxChassis]

Finished '83, '84, and '85 batches with known FHP, and about half done with two batches from '86. :D

Also been checking batches with known TXDPS. Finished '83 and '84. :D

[28HopUp]

That's AWESOME! I have been working on a list of 93 FHP Mustangs (grabbing screenshots as I go!), and ended up creating jpg files to confirm an add'l 107 Florida SSPs from 1993!

[FoxChassis]

Done checking '86 FHP.

[FoxChassis]

Also checking batches of known Georgia (Dept of Revenue, State Patrol, etc.) cars. Done with '84, '88, and '89.

[28HopUp]

Mick, when you get a chance please PM or post the links to the Texas and Georgia websites so we can see what there is to work with in terms of adding cars to our VIN Project. The CHP cars are a mild PITA because they require 2 jpg files per car. The FHP cars only need one jpg file, but it is still time consuming to document each VIN on the Florida site due to the number of cars they ordered each year (but worth the effort).

[MOstang]

but worth the effort.

:2thumbs: Thanks to both of you for the work!

[28HopUp]

Thanks Mike! These DMV searches are rewarding, but time consuming. For example, on the 92 FHP Mustangs I am closing in on completing 100 JPG files that show a POLICE branded title. There are probably another 20 or so left to go. Then I will start again with the 91's, then the 90's, 89's, etc. I can skip the 85's because they are already documented, and the 83's were the first ones done via DMV searches. Once I have all of the pictures files, then I will create the HTML pages for each car. It's very time-consuming, but once we are done with the FHP's we will have added hundreds of cars to the project! :D

[28HopUp]

Mick and I have gathered screencaps that document 791 FHP Mustangs (a few of which have already been verified with other information), but there are still 2 more years of SSPs to go before we are finished with the FHPs. :)

[28HopUp]

In addition to the twenty (20) 1983 FHP Mustangs that we recently confirmed, we just added the following Florida Highway Patrol SSPs to our project:

1984 - 21 total
1986 - 31
1989 - 78
1990 - 43
1991 - 54
1992 - 96
1993 - 83


That's 406 FHP Mustangs added to our VIN Project using the Florida DMV website for documentation. And these are just the ones that we know are FHP Mustangs because of other SSPs that are already verified. There are hundreds more SSPs to be added whose VINs make them "likely" FHP Mustangs, but not confirmed. These cars also have POLICE branded titles and are contained in the same consecutive unit number batch as other FHP Mustangs. We may pull a few Marti reports on some of these to confirm their DSO and see how they were equipped. But when these additional SSPs are added, their FHP status will be listed as "unconfirmed".

As a rough estimate, we now have over 2,000 SSP Mustangs listed on our VIN Project! :)

EDIT: And thanks Mick aka FoxChassis for grabbing many of the screenshots that we used to document these FHP Mustangs.

[Mustang Kid]

Good Job Bill!

My dad got me a copy of this magazine. In it they do a 5spd swap on an SSP Coupe. They don't say what year it is or anything else about it. I got the photo here from Muscle Mustangs facebook page. In the article you can see the car is black, red interior, trunk pop is close to the lower left edge of the access panel, and the car has a red interior without the black on the dash.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/31548_10151300724806001_822334421_n.jpg

It would be nice to find a way to contact them to learn more about it:D Sad it's being modified...

[FoxChassis]

Also checking batches of known Georgia (Dept of Revenue, State Patrol, etc.) cars. Done with '84, '88, and '89.

Done with '90, '91, and '92 so Georgia is finished, at least for batches with known DOR and GSP in them.

[28HopUp]

Good Job Bill!

My dad got me a copy of this magazine. In it they do a 5spd swap on an SSP Coupe. They don't say what year it is or anything else about it. I got the photo here from Muscle Mustangs facebook page. In the article you can see the car is black, red interior, trunk pop is close to the lower left edge of the access panel, and the car has a red interior without the black on the dash.

Sam, that kinda sounds like the 1990 SSP that they modified on Stacey David's GEARZ Show -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRlXDC8p9F0


That was a 6-speed swap though, and the interrior was gray in the above car.


Done with '90, '91, and '92 so Georgia is finished, at least for batches with known DOR and GSP in them.

Thanks again, Mick!

[FoxChassis]

For TX, I have '83 through '87 checked and still have '88 through '90 and '93 to go through, again only for batches with known TXDPS.

[28HopUp]

Now that we have over 2,000 (+/-) SSPs listed in our project (with 100s more to soon be added), we decided to revise the layout of the VIN listings to make them more user-friendly. The VINs are now left-justified on the page, and those SSPs with documentation are still linked. The change is that a brief description has been added after each link to identify the agency (if known), and any other data that doesn't change as cars change owners. This should make it easier to scroll through the page to look for specific agencies.

Feel free to check out the new pages:

1982 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/82VIN.html)
1983 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/83VIN.html)
1984 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/84VIN.html)
1985 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/85VIN.html)
1986 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/86VIN.html)
1987 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/87VIN.html)
1988 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/88VIN.html)
1989 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/89VIN.html)
1990 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/90VIN.html)
1991 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/91VIN.html)
1992 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/92VIN.html)
1993 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/93VIN.html)

:)

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Good idea, but it should be Minnesota State Patrol (not police). Thanks for your hard work!

Bob

Now that we have over 2,000 (+/-) SSPs listed in our project (with 100s more to soon be added), we decided to revise the layout of the VIN listings to make them more user-friendly. The VINs are now left-justified on the page, and those SSPs with documentation are still linked. The change is that a brief description has been added after each link to identify the agency (if known), and any other data that doesn't change as cars change owners. This should make it easier to scroll through the page to look for specific agencies.

Feel free to check out the new pages:

1982 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/82VIN.html)
1983 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/83VIN.html)
1984 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/84VIN.html)
1985 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/85VIN.html)
1986 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/86VIN.html)
1987 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/87VIN.html)
1988 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/88VIN.html)
1989 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/89VIN.html)
1990 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/90VIN.html)
1991 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/91VIN.html)
1992 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/92VIN.html)
1993 VINs (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/93VIN.html)

:)

[28HopUp]

Thanks Bob! I just fixed that oversight. If anyone sees something amiss like that, please let me know. :)

[FoxChassis]

Bill:

If you want to add info to the four-eyed VIN lists of ones that I know are not SSPs, let me know and I'll get you the VINs. I have emailed you before about them, when I discovered them. They are the Zimmer conversions. I know of 13 from 1983, four from 1985 and one from 1986. I have not been keeping track of the aero VINs but 1988 was the last year for them. I think there is one from 1988 on ebay right now.

Mick

[FoxChassis]

I think North Carolina State Police should be Norh Carolina Highway Patrol.

[MOstang]

I think North Carolina State Police should be Norh Carolina Highway Patrol.

Good catch, but a slight revision to your revisions....it's the North Carolina State Highway Patrol (NCSHP). Thanks!

[FoxChassis]

Good catch, but a slight revision to your revisions....it's the North Carolina State Highway Patrol (NCSHP). Thanks!

The agency logo and uniform patch says "North Carolina Highway Patrol" (no "State") but a Trooper's badge and the official website says "North Carolina State Highway Patrol", so I could go either way on it. :)

[NoDrama43]

and that right there is why we are.......The DEFINITIVE Special Service Mustang Website! :)

[28HopUp]

Good catch, but a slight revision to your revisions....it's the North Carolina State Highway Patrol (NCSHP). Thanks!

I made this revision to the NC cars. I also added Unit Numbers to the 1987 CHPs (thanks to Mick!).

[Mustang Kid]

There is a batch of 3 vins in 1989 section that I doubt are SSP's. Remember that white one I posted in the for sale that was on cl, with a vin that was on the list? Didn't have SSP cluster and wasn't an SSP from what my dad and I could tell. Just heads up.

[28HopUp]

Sam, you mean this 89 car that you posted (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4606) not too long ago, right? I agree with you that this car (VIN is 144992) is most likely not a SSP, which is why it is not featured in the VIN Project with a hyperlink to its own page. With so many V8 notchbacks in the consecutive unit number listings for each year, I tend to go on the basis that a VIN is not a SSP unless proved (through pictures, Marti, matching DSOs, etc) to be a SSP. We tried to word the header so folks see that the list of VINs includes civilian V8 coupes and SSPs, but some people miss that little tidbit. Regardless, I would rather not point out the civilian VINs unless they key in on a batch of SSPs (like the first two civilian VINs in the batch containing the 85 CHP and OSP Mustangs).

[28HopUp]

Thanks to Mick, aka FoxChassis, for his help AGAIN! We have now included the CHP Unit Numbers and Office Locations for the VIN listings on the 89 and 90 model years, as seen here:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/89VIN.html (starting with 211169)
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/90VIN.html (starting with 170115)

:)

[MOstang]

The agency logo and uniform patch says "North Carolina Highway Patrol" (no "State") but a Trooper's badge and the official website says "North Carolina State Highway Patrol", so I could go either way on it. :)

I guess you could say they have a "split personality" :D . Check out the display sign they use when showing their still owned 1993 SSP Mustang.

[Pushrod91]

Good Job Bill!

My dad got me a copy of this magazine. In it they do a 5spd swap on an SSP Coupe. They don't say what year it is or anything else about it. I got the photo here from Muscle Mustangs facebook page. In the article you can see the car is black, red interior, trunk pop is close to the lower left edge of the access panel, and the car has a red interior without the black on the dash.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/31548_10151300724806001_822334421_n.jpg

It would be nice to find a way to contact them to learn more about it:D Sad it's being modified...

Pretty sure thats sleeper88's car on the Corral

[28HopUp]

If y'all go through the 1987 VIN page...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/87VIN.html


...and scroll down to 184744 you will find the first of six SSPs where we used CHP Assignment Cards for 1985 Mustangs to determine the VIN of the 1987 Mustangs that replaced them. Kinda cool... :)

[28HopUp]

Here is an example of using the California Smog Certificate search function to document some more SSPs:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/CHPdmv/info213052.html


Since we know the VIN range of the 1982 CHP Mustangs, we are able to use this information to document 72 more of the 1982 SSPs. This method can also be used for CHPs from other years where we know a range of VINs that fall in-between confirmed SSPs with the same DSO number. :)

[28HopUp]

This 1988 car turned up on the Florida DMV search as having possibly been a flood-damaged car from Hurricane Katrina -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/FHP/FHPdmv/info240775.htm


This car is part of a CUN block of 190 cars, but with no documented SSPs contained within the group. There are 84 cars from this batch that came back with a POLICE-branded title, so these are most likely FHP units. We will be pulling a Marti Report on a car from this batch to confirm the SSP option as a way to connect the dots.

[28HopUp]

Thanks go out to Mick/FoxChassis for his assistance again. He provided jpg files for DMV searches on 1984 CHP Mustangs. By limiting ourselves to cars we KNOW to be part of the same DSO number, we have been able to add 16 more 1984 CHP Mustangs to our project. Here is an example of one car that was last inspected in May 2012 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/CHPdmv/info204009.html


We have also added a copyright (terms of use) statement at the bottom of pages with pictures from the California smog website. We are allowed to use them as long as we follow the rules, and the statement was added as a proactive step to show our compliance. Florida is another state that allows the use of their information. Other states are more restrictive, so we will probably only use their online search tools as a method to pin down VIN ranges of suspected cars, and rely on other resources to provide documentation for our project once we know which VINs to run.

[03cobra]

Super work Bill!

[28HopUp]

Thanks Jason! It's been a fun & rewarding effort. Presently, there are over 1,000 CHP Mustangs included as active links. I plan to order a few Marti Reports in the new year that will confirm the DSOs for batches of other cars (not just CHPs), which will allow me to add even more SSPs to the Project. :)

[28HopUp]

Our first 1985 North Carolina SSP has been added to the Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1985NC251154/info251154.htm


This car was listed for sale on CL, and a thread was created here (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4693) about the car. I spoke with the seller, Allen, around Christmas, and he was supposed to send me more pictures (including one of the build sheet!). If I get them, I will add the pictures to the page. :)

[kapracing]

Great job your doing Bill !!! You are really paving the way in the SSP hobby. Your gonna end up a house hold name in the SSP community... 5-10 years from now There will be even more grateful SSP owners out there... :-) I know I speak for alot of us when I say "Thanks for all you do and have done."

[MOstang]

That would be a cool SSP to see someone scoop up and finish.

[FoxChassis]

I'm running Autochecks for that batch of 37. A few so far seem to be alive today. :) I might run some MVR title history reports (NCDOT form MVR-605A) for some or all of them, to see if NCSHP, or any other state/county/city/etc agency, is the original owner. They're only $1 each and are allowable for "research" purposes so long as personal information is not republished.

[28HopUp]

Mick, you may find that the tail-end of that 1985 batch are the Nebraska SSPs. They are either contained in that batch, or the one with 208460, unless the DSO(s) was divided in smaller batches.

That's great that the State of North Carolina let's you buy/collect information for research purposes. I need to check my notes to see if we could pin down some other-year VIN ranges of suspected NC cars, and request information on them as well.

[FoxChassis]

Should be able to check title history in most if not all states. But with restrictions. See the Driver's Privacy Protection Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_Privacy_Protection_Act).

For our purposes, exception #5 should apply...

For use in research activities, and for use in producing statistical reports, so long as the personal information is not published, redisclosed, or used to contact individuals.

[FoxChassis]

AutoCheck "events"....

1FABP26M9FF251153 NC 1996-2000
1FABP26M0FF251154 NC 1991-2007
1FABP26M2FF251155 no records
1FABP26M4FF251156 FL 1993 scrapped
1FABP26M6FF251157 NC 1996
1FABP26M8FF251158 no records
1FABP26MXFF251159 NC 1998-present
1FABP26M6FF251160 NC 1996, VA 1996
1FABP26M8FF251161 NC 1997-2000
1FABP26MXFF251162 no records
1FABP26M1FF251163 NC 1988-present
1FABP26M3FF251164 auction in southeast 1995, SC 1996
1FABP26M5FF251165 no records
1FABP26M7FF251166 no records
1FABP26M9FF251167 NC 1985-1997, SC 2006-2007, MD 2007, VA 2008, MD 2008, MA 2008, PA 2009, MD 2009-2011
1FABP26M0FF251168 VA 1996-2001, NC 2001-present
1FABP26M2FF251169 NC 1998-present
1FABP26M9FF251170 IA 1996-present
1FABP26M0FF251171 NC 2003 scrapped
1FABP26M2FF251172 no records
1FABP26M4FF251173 NC 1988-2004
1FABP26M6FF251174 no records
1FABP26M8FF251175 VA 1995-2011
1FABP26MXFF251176 no records
1FABP26M1FF251177 NC 1985-2004 accident 2004
1FABP26M3FF251178 NC 1996-2000
1FABP26M5FF251179 NC 1990-2010
1FABP26M1FF251180 TN 1989-1994
1FABP26M3FF251181 no records
1FABP26M5FF251182 IA 1994, auction in midwest 1994, IL 1995
1FABP26M7FF251183 auction in southeast 1995
1FABP26M9FF251184 no records
1FABP26M0FF251185 FL 1998-2007
1FABP26M2FF251186 no records
1FABP26M4FF251187 NC 1996, VA 1996-1998, NC 2003-2005
1FABP26M6FF251188 NC 1994-1996
1FABP26M8FF251189 no records

[28HopUp]

There's a bunch of NC cars throughout that entire batch of VINs. The Nebraska SSPs are most likely in the batch with 208460 then.

[FoxChassis]

According to Autocheck FF208432-FF208479 were shipepd to MO....

1FABP26M7FF208432 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Central Region 1991 (Fleet/Lease), TN 1994
1FABP26M9FF208433 MO 1985 (manufactured), MA 1993 1996 1998
1FABP26M0FF208434 MO 1985 (manufactured), NY 1994 1997 (salvage 1997)
1FABP26M2FF208435 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M4FF208436 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Pacific NW Region 1994, CA 1998, auction Pacific NW Region 1994, CA 1999-2002
1FABP26M6FF208437 MO 1985 (manufactured), NY 1997 1998 2000
1FABP26M8FF208438 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Pacific SW Region 1996, CA 1997-2000
1FABP26MXFF208439 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Eastern Region 1992
1FABP26M6FF208440 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M8FF208441 MO 1985 (manufactured), MA 1993 1997
1FABP26MXFF208442 MO 1985 (manufactured), IN 1996 WI 2005-2007
1FABP26M1FF208443 MO 1985 (manufactured), OH 1996 1998
1FABP26M3FF208444 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M5FF208445 MO 1985 (manufactured), MA 1995-1998
1FABP26M7FF208446 MO 1985 (manufactured), WI 1991 1996-1999
1FABP26M9FF208447 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M0FF208448 MO 1985 (manufactured), VA 1995-1996
1FABP26M2FF208449 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M9FF208450 MO 1985 (manufactured), accident 1991, TX 1992 (rebuilt), 1996 (reconditioned), 1997, 2003 (scrapped)
1FABP26M0FF208451 MO 1985 (manufactured), CA 1996 2000
1FABP26M2FF208452 MO 1985 (manufactured), NJ 1995-2000
1FABP26M4FF208453 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M6FF208454 MO 1985 (manufactured), NM 1997-2002
1FABP26M8FF208455 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26MXFF208456 MO 1985 (manufactured), CA 1998-2004
1FABP26M1FF208457 MO 1985 (manufactured), OR 1993-2011, WA 2011
1FABP26M3FF208458 MO 1985 (manufactured), MO 1995, IL 1998-2007 (junk vehicle 2007)
1FABP26M5FF208459 MO 1985 (manufactured), VA 1995-1998, NC 1999
1FABP26M1FF208460 MO 1985 (manufactured), GA 1996 (bonded title), 1998-1999 (collision 1999)
1FABP26M3FF208461 MO 1985 (manufactured), WI 1991
1FABP26M5FF208462 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M7FF208463 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Central Region 1992
1FABP26M9FF208464 MO 1985 (manufactured), CA 2004
1FABP26M0FF208465 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Southeastern Region 1991, FL 1992 1996 1998-2000, 2002
1FABP26M2FF208466 MO 1985 (manufactured), NY 1993
1FABP26M4FF208467 MO 1985 (manufactured), NC 1992, auction Southeastern Region 1996, NC 1996-1997, SC 1998-2000
1FABP26M6FF208468 MO 1985 (manufactured), AZ 1993
1FABP26M8FF208469 MO 1985 (manufactured), CA 1997-2001 2007-2009
1FABP26M4FF208470 MO 1985 (manufactured), OR 1995-1996 2000-2004
1FABP26M6FF208471 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Eastern Region 1991, FL 1995 2010-present
1FABP26M8FF208472 MO 1985 (manufactured), auction Pacific SW Region 1995 x2, CA 1998 2002
1FABP26MXFF208473 MO 1985 (manufactured), PR 1985 1998 2010
1FABP26M1FF208474 MO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M3FF208475 MO 1985 (manufactured), VA 1995-1996 2000-2006
1FABP26M5FF208476 MO 1985 (manufactured), CA 2001-2002
1FABP26M7FF208477 MO 1985 (manufactured), FL 1996 (collision)
1FABP26M9FF208478 MO 1985 (manufactured), NJ 1996-1998, NY 1998-2000
1FABP26M0FF208479 MO 1985 (manufactured), FL 1987 (collision), 1994, auction Southeastern Region 1995, FL 1995, auction Southeastern Region 1995, FL 1996 (collision) 1997-1998, GA 1998 (collision), FL 1998 (collision) 1999-2001

[28HopUp]

That's interesting! So the entire batch of V8 coupes (48 cars) went to the same state originally. I wonder if the dealer who won the bid for the 1985 Nebraska SSPs was located in Missouri? Regardless, it might be interesting to pull a Marti Report on one of them to see how it was optioned, but that will have to wait until reports with a higher priority are obtained (and there are a BUNCH of those!).

[FoxChassis]

Nebraska JF248033 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NE/1988NE248033/info248033.htm) came through Dealer 53C026. A lot of the "53" dealer codes are Missouri dealers. So you may be on to something there.

[28HopUp]

Nebraska JF248033 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NE/1988NE248033/info248033.htm) came through Dealer 53C026. A lot of the "53" dealer codes are Missouri dealers. So you may be on to something there.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then! :p :D

[FoxChassis]

So now I'm on an AC kick. :D Did some other small '85 batches. The batch with NVHP #130 in it is interesting...

1FABP26M6FF206185 MA (unknown date)(manufactured)
1FABP26M8FF206186 TX 1985 (manufactured), TX 1985 1994 1997-1998
1FABP26MXFF206187 TX 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M1FF206188 -- 1985 (manufactured), NV 1996, 1999-2002
1FABP26M3FF206189 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NV/1985NV206189/info206189.htm) -- 1985 (manufactured), NV 1994 1996
1FABP26MXFF206190 -- 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M1FF206191 CO 1985 (manufactured), CO 1994-1995, 1998-2001, 2003-2005, 2007, 2010
1FABP26M3FF206192 CO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M5FF206193 CO 1985 (manufactured), CO 1991
1FABP26M7FF206194 CO 1985 (manufactured), CO 1994-1995
1FABP26M9FF206195 CO 1985 (manufactured), CO 1994-1996 2004
1FABP26M0FF206196 CO 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M2FF206197 CO 1985 (manufactured), accident 1991, CO 1995, AZ 2009

[28HopUp]

Nice job! That's quite a coincidence since the NHP only ordered 3 SSPs that year. So 206190 must be the car that was totalled the day it was put into service.

[FoxChassis]

I love doing this stuff! :D

[FoxChassis]

1986 RCMPs...

1FABP26M3GF208249 BC (manufactured), BC 1991 (scrapped - last seen at recycling facility), BC 1997 (Canadian renewal, salvage)
1FABP26MXGF208250 BC (manufactured)
1FABP26M1GF208251 BC (manufactured), BC 1997 (Canadian renewal, salvage)
1FABP26M3GF208252 BC (manufactured)
1FABP26M5GF208253 BC (manufactured), BC 2004 (Canadian renewal, scrapped/destroyed), BC 2007 (Canadian renewal, scrapped/destroyed)
1FABP26M7GF208254 BC (manufactured), BC 2007 (Canadian renewal, scrapped/destroyed)

[28HopUp]

Wow! Four out of six of those Canadian cars are now salvage/scrapped. I guess they were used pretty hard.

[FoxChassis]

A member here, I forget the name, has the other two. He started a resto on one of them a little while ago.

[FoxChassis]

Batch of two '84s, one of which has a door tag and buck tag in the VIN Project (unknown agency), both have CA smog histories. Here are their AC reports...

1FABP26M2EF213715 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1984CHP213715/info213715.htm) CA 1984 (manufactured), CA 2000-2005, AL 2008-present
1FABP26M4EF213716 CA 1984 (manufactured)

[28HopUp]

A member here, I forget the name, has the other two. He started a resto on one of them a little while ago.

Here's the thread about the member's 1986 RCMP Mustang(s) -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3819&highlight=RCMP


:)

[FoxChassis]

Batch of four '87s, one of which was a "Massachusetts Strike Force" car and in the VIN Project, is interesting. Seems ALL FOUR cars are still alive...

1FABP40E2HF202540 unknown state 1987 (manufactured), MA 1997-2011
1FABP40E4HF202541 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1987MA202541/info202541.htm) unknown state 1987 (manufactured), MA 1997-2001
1FABP40E6HF202542 NJ 1987 (manufactured), unknown state 1992 (accident or damage reported [non-collision]), NJ 1995, NY 1999-present
1FABP40E8HF202543 [no manufactured or ship-to record], unknown state 1991 (accident or damage reported [non-collision]), NY 1991 (salvage), PR 1993-present

[FoxChassis]

Batch of ten '88s, one of which has a "New Mexico" unit in the VIN Project, is interesting. First two appear to have gone to Texas, third one unknown, next four to New Mexico, and last three to Ontario Canada....

1FABP40EXJF220242 unknown state 1988 (manufactured), TX 1990-1997, Southwest region auction 1998, OK 1999-2004
1FABP40E1JF220243 unknown state 1988 (manufactured), TX 1991-2002
1FABP40E3JF220244 unknown state 1988 (manufactured), IL 1994 (junk/rebuilt)
1FABP40E5JF220245 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NM/1988NM220245/info220245.htm) NM 1998 (manufactured), CO 1994-1995, WA 1997-2009, OR 2011-present
1FABP40E7JF220246 NM 1998 (manufactured), NM 1996-1997
1FABP40E9JF220247 NM 1998 (manufactured), NM 1996-2000
1FABP40E0JF220248 NM 1998 (manufactured), NM 1995-2001
1FABP40E2JF220249 Ontario 1998 (manufactured), Ontario 1988, New Foundland 1998
1FABP40E9JF220250 Ontario 1998 (manufactured), New Foundland 1997, Ontario 2001, Alberta 2006-2011
1FABP40E0JF220251 Ontario 1998 (manufactured), Ontario 1995, MN 1998-1999, WI 1999-2000

[FoxChassis]

The "unknown agency" car at the end of the 1988 Alabama DPS batch went to SC, and appears to still be alive today.

1FABP40E7JF261766 SC 1988 (manufactured), SC 1996-1999, Southeast auction 1999, SC 2000-present

[FoxChassis]

Batch of three with the Oscala FL PD unit as the first one has the second one as possibly another Oscala unit, and the third in the batch appears to have gone to a local goverment in Louisiana.

1FABP40E8KF213579 FL 04/1989 (manufactured), FL 05/1989 (rear impact), FL 11/1989 (front impact), FL 1998-present (police use branding on title)
1FABP40E4KF213580 FL 1989 (manufactured), Oscala FL 1989 (police use), FL 1991 (front impact), OH 1997, IN 1997, FL 1998-2001
1FABP40E6KF213581 unknown state 1989 (manufactured), LA 1989 (local gov't), AR 1996-present

[ImEvil1]

Mick,

Oscala is probably a typo for Ocala.

Can you run the 85 Colorado cars up when you get a sec?
1FABP26MXFF235057 is the last of the run. I found the auction listing for 235053 in there as well.

[FoxChassis]

Mick,

Oscala is probably a typo for Ocala.

Can you run the 85 Colorado cars up when you get a sec?
1FABP26MXFF235057 is the last of the run. I found the auction lusting for 235053 in there as well.


Here ya go Mike:

1FABP26M7FF235050 unknown state 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M9FF235051 unknown state 1985 (manufactured), WI 1993-2007
1FABP26M0FF235052 unknown state 1985 (manufactured), CO 1994-1995, Mountain region auction 1997 (fleet/leased), CO 1995, NM 1996-1998
1FABP26M2FF235053 unknown state 1985 (manufactured), CO 1995
1FABP26M4FF235054 unknown state 1985 (manufactured), CO 1994-2002, NM 2005
1FABP26M6FF235055 unknown state 1985 (manufactured)
1FABP26M8FF235056 unknown state 1985 (manufactured), CO 1995-1997, MI 1998, NV 1998-2010 ("junk vehicle" title 2010)
1FABP26MXFF235057 unknown state 1985 (manufactured), CO 1995-2005

[28HopUp]

Can you run the 85 Colorado cars up when you get a sec? 1FABP26MXFF235057 is the last of the run. I found the auction listing for 235053 in there as well.

Mike, you've been holding out on me! ;) Can you attach or email me the information on those cars for the Project?

[ImEvil1]

I will when I get to a real computer.

[28HopUp]

Not really, but y'all may find it somewhat interesting. At the bottom of the VIN listings for each year, I recently added a number in the lower left corner of each page. That number is the total SSPs documented for that particular year. The number will increase as future links are activated, which will make it easier to keep track of the total number of cars in our VIN Project. As of today, the numbers break down as follows:

1982. . .94
1983. . .31
1984. . .80
1985. . 237
1986. . 172
1987. . 379
1988. . 236
1989. . 352
1990. . 185
1991. . 158
1992. . 200
1993. . 423
------------
TOTAL 2,547 SSPs

:)

[28HopUp]

I had a PM exchange with a member today about the Marti Reports. I commented that there are 30 VINs (CHP, FHP, AzDPS, and NYSP) on my immediate list to be pulled by the end of January as funds allow. There are another 15 or so VINs (many different agencies) that are on my "want" list. Then there are another 27 VINs for suspected Texas DPS cars (which I may not need to pull if some documentation comes in). At a cost of $15 per report, the total gets rather expensive. He recommended that I consider posting up a Paypal link in case any of you want to contribute financially.

I'm not well acquainted with how Paypal works in terms of establishing a pay button/link, but if anyone wants to contribute to our VIN Project, my Paypal account is mm750 [at] comcast [dot] net (use the actual symbols and remove the spaces). I will gladly acknowledge in this thread everyone who contributes (unless they want to keep their name out of it). There's no obligation here - we're all friends so any amount is welcome. It's a bit awkward for me to even post this up, but this is something we can do for the benefit of the hobby.

[stadair]

Toshi, did you ever notice the following picture posted up in the Motor Transport thread?

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h340/Mustang_Kid84/Motor%20Transport%20Mustangs/mtm553035.jpg


Is the gray Mustang the same shade as your repaint? The above car has tinted windows, and no whip antenna on the 1/4 panel.

Looking more closely at this picture, it seems that the belt line is black... That wouldn't be for a '93 car, would it? It would be body color. I'm working on my car again. I should scrap a little spot on the belt line and see what color is underneath the Reef Blue.

[28HopUp]

Looking more closely at this picture, it seems that the belt line is black... That wouldn't be for a '93 car, would it? It would be body color. I'm working on my car again. I should scrap a little spot on the belt line and see what color is underneath the Reef Blue.

Toshi, the CHP would have repainted the car either way, so they could have left the beltline black. Let us know what you find on your car's beltline.

_____________________________________________


I would like to take this opportunity to say THANK YOU to MikeP (aka MOstang) for sending in some scratch via Paypal (see post #345 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showpost.php?p=38343&postcount=345)) so I could run another series of Marti Reports. With Mike's help, we ordered four reports on the following 1984 CHP Mustangs:

203911 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1984CHP203911/info203911.htm)
204040 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1984CHP204040/info204040.htm)
and
205174 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1984CHP205174/info205174.htm)
205285 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1984CHP205285/info205285.htm)


These four reports confirm a known range of VINs for two batches of 1984 CHP Mustangs that all have the same DSO number. Using these four reports and the State of California smog website, we were able to confirm 75 more CHP Mustangs for 1984. Thanks Mike!

[28HopUp]

Using 4 more Marti Reports and confirmed ranges of SSPs, we just added 31 CHP Mustangs from 1991, and 52 from 1992. That leaves 101 more 1992 pages to be created and added over the weekend, and then the CHPs will be done (in terms of using the California smog website to verify SSPs). Once those are added, we will have over 2,800 SSPs in our project.

:)

[28HopUp]

Pictures were provided recently of auction paperwork from 1993 and 1997 for various Texas DPS cars. The individual who posted the pictures agreed to allow our use of these photos for the VIN Project, and we were able to document 37 more Texas DPS Mustangs! :) Here is an example:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TxDPSsaleinfo/info166864.htm


Similar documentation was provided for a 38th SSP which was already included in our project:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1993TXDPS139187/info139187.htm


I do not recall the source of the pictures from this SSP, but it obviously is a known car that either belongs to a member or was listed for sale. I hope it belongs to a member, who will benefit from now having the auction paperwork for his SSP.

:D

[FoxChassis]

I have M3-262 (PF139187) as being listed on ebay in July 2012 in Amarillo, TX. Don't know if that was a member here selling it, or if a member here bought it.

Those auction lists have provided four more previously unknown batches of VINs for me to check at the TX DMV site. :)

[28HopUp]

Mick, thanks for the info on that 1993 SSP. Your record keeping efforts have come in handy on many occassions.

The other benefit of this auction paperwork is it verified that Texas DPS was the agency on two other SSPs which were confirmed with Marti Reports, but they lacked sufficient proof about where the cars served originally. Cool stuff!

[93chipper]

Looking more closely at this picture, it seems that the belt line is black... That wouldn't be for a '93 car, would it? It would be body color. I'm working on my car again. I should scrap a little spot on the belt line and see what color is underneath the Reef Blue.

the color is actually a 1992 color and it maybe possible that they painted the weather strip because the chp didnt use just one company for resprays

[28HopUp]

Thanks go out to ChrisL, who sent in pictures for another 1986 Texas DPS Mustang, which is the 2nd SSP found in this batch of 24 consecutive cars:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1986TXDPS231709/info231709.htm


:2thumbs:

[MOstang]

Thanks Mike!

Bill - Glad that I'm able to help...this is a great project!

[28HopUp]

A huge THANK YOU goes out to Tom M. aka "1989 Tx DPS SSP" for sending in his collection of auction paperwork on a large number of Texas DPS Mustangs (plus other makes too). There are over 300 Mustangs listed in the many pages of information. It will take some time to go through and create the new webpages for each SSP, however there are several SSPs already listed in our project that are also included in the auction paperwork from Tom. These SSPs were either: owned/found by members; ones where we ordered Marti Reports; or ones where we pulled Texas DMV info. Below is a list of those cars:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1985TXDPS204955/info204955.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1988TXDPS276410/info276410.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1988TXDPS276411/info276411.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TXdmv/info149436.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TXdmv/info149437.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TXdmv/info149442.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TXdmv/info149443.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TXdmv/info149444.htm


VERY cool stuff. Thanks again, Tom! :)

[FoxChassis]

In the three consecutive groups with TXDPS in '86 (GF229980-230018, GF231677-231686, and GF231700-231723) it looks like the first two batches (DSO 57-0114 and DSO 57-0112) might have all had manual transmissions and the last batch (DSO 57-0116) might have all had automatic transmissions.

[28HopUp]

As part of Tom's auction information, we found a lone 1985 Mustang that is part of a 10-car consecutive unit number block of VINs:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TxDPSsaleinfo/info188603.htm


Note that this car's listed unit number is #F5-231, not #M5-231 (interesting!). All but one of these ten Mustangs show Texas DMV records, so we may be able to verify all ten cars as SSPs by pulling Marti Reports on the first and last ones of the batch. :)


In the three consecutive groups with TXDPS in '86 (GF229980-230018, GF231677-231686, and GF231700-231723) it looks like the first two batches (DSO 57-0114 and DSO 57-0112) might have all had manual transmissions and the last batch (DSO 57-0116) might have all had automatic transmissions.

That's pretty cool info! :D

[FoxChassis]

In the 1988 auction list, in the middle of the second column is a 1988 Mustang (lot #38)....1FABP40E6JF267509. That is a single VIN, i.e. not in a batch of 2 or more consecutive P40E VINs. :D

[FoxChassis]

As part of Tom's auction information, we found a lone 1985 Mustang that is part of a 10-car consecutive unit number block of VINs:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TxDPSsaleinfo/info188603.htm

Note that this car's listed unit number is #F5-231, not #M5-231 (interesting!). All but one of these ten Mustangs show Texas DMV records, so we may be able to verify all ten cars as SSPs by pulling Marti Reports on the first and last ones of the batch. :)

That's pretty cool info! :D
Looks like unit numbers started with "F" through '85 and "M" from '86 through '93. I have EF184685 as unit #F4-413 but I don't know where I got that from.

Not sure about '83....haven't seen any unit numbers for any of them yet.

That '85 unit number also looks to be the EFI/AOD combo, per the "AT" indication in the auction lot number info. Being that the CUN is so high, it is the 180 HP version (headers and dual muffler & tailpipes).

[28HopUp]

Some of the "F" cars are Vics and trucks. I have seen a "C" used in the unit numbers for the Chevy Caprice and Camaro models. A "P" was used on a Plymouth van, and a "D" was used for Dodges.

[FoxChassis]

So looks like for the Mustang they used the make for the unit number in '84 and '85 and the model for the unit number in '86 and later. As in....

F = Ford
M = Mustang

Looks like the Crown Vic continued with the F designate, and Dodge continued with D, and and Plymouth continued with P, after '85.

[28HopUp]

Mick, Texas DPS may have made the change from F to M on the Mustangs during the 1985 model year. Here is one with a higher VIN and a #M5-xxx number:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1985TXDPS204948/info204948.htm

[FoxChassis]

Hmmm...interesting.

FF188608 was shipped to a dealer in TX but there are no other records for that VIN, which is why nothing is showing up in the TX title search. Wonder what happened to that one.

[28HopUp]

There isn't much listed about 188603 on AutoCheck:

Vehicle: 1985 Ford Mustang LX (1FABP26M5FF188603)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details

03/18/1985 TX Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER

12/18/1991 TX 80,690 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV

03/29/1996 AUSTIN, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:00022200050014898)


Using the Texas DMV site (http://www.txdmv.gov/protection/buying_vehicle/title_check.htm), the last title issued matches the AutoCheck report:

Vehicle Make: FORD
Vehicle Model: MLX
Vehicle Year: 1985
Vehicle Identification Number: 1FABP26M5FF188603
Title Issue Date: 1996/03/29
Title Number: 00022200050014898

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

The F5 numbers were the Baby LTD's they had. If you look at the description it says 4DR.

Tom

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

I just saw the car you were talking about and can't remember it, I do know that
M6-364 and 366 were Civilian color cars and not Black & Whites,.

[FoxChassis]

Fox LTDs sedans were P39. I didn't see any in those lists.

Saw plenty of Panther LTD sedans.

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

There are 3 85's Lot # 16-18 on the list with the 85 &86 cars.

Tom

[FoxChassis]

Ah...there they are...was looking at the wrong list. Those three are part of a batch of 60 (GF212804-GF212863)

[FoxChassis]

Had Mustangs VINs on the mind...I meant to type FG212804-FG212863.

[28HopUp]

As part of Tom's auction information, we found 3 Texas DPS Mustangs from the 1991 model year:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TxDPSsaleinfo/info140239.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TxDPSsaleinfo/info140241.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/TxDPSsaleinfo/info140242.htm


I wonder what might have happened to those rare cars? They are part of an 11-car CUN batch of VINs, and only the last 9 cars came back with records on the Texas DMV website (http://www.txdmv.gov/protection/buying_vehicle/title_check.htm).

[FoxChassis]

I put some "want ads" out on various craigslists looking for info about SSPs that might still be on the road today. Got a hit on a 1986 FBI unit!

Somebody that knew of the car, who also purportedly is a multi-SSP owner, sent me a pic of the lower left corner of the window sticker and told a previous owner of the car about the ad I put up. The previous owner contacted me and gave me his phone number so I called him and chatted a bit. He sold it a couple of years ago, and still keeps in contact with the current owner. Hopefully I can get some more info on it.

Bill put up a page for the car here: http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1986FBInotaSSP267059/info267059.htm

[28HopUp]

Mick, that is incredible that you found this car! Not only did you track down a range of likely SSPs that nobody knew about, but you were able to find a car through your CL posting. AWESOME! :D Hopefully, you will be able to find more like this. In terms of this car, if it looks like all 32 cars from the batch were ordered by the same dealer, then I suspect it would be worth ordering Marti Reports for the first and last cars in the batch so we could confirm all 32 cars. :)

Again, NICE JOB!

[ChrisL]

This is one of the coolest things I've heard all year... I'd love to own an '86 FBI coupe :)

[ImEvil1]

Good stuff.

Bill/Mick, other than what's in the pic, did you get any confirmation that the '86 is an SSP?

[FoxChassis]

Mick, that is incredible that you found this car! Not only did you track down a range of likely SSPs that nobody knew about, but you were able to find a car through your CL posting. AWESOME! :D Hopefully, you will be able to find more like this. In terms of this car, if it looks like all 32 cars from the batch were ordered by the same dealer, then I suspect it would be worth ordering Marti Reports for the first and last cars in the batch so we could confirm all 32 cars. :)

Again, NICE JOB!
Event date.......Location......Details
06/XX/1986.......MO............VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER

That's on every one of them. :D

I have a couple more "info wanted" ads for some in the same batch. We'll see if I get any more hits. :D :D

[FoxChassis]

Good stuff.

Bill/Mick, other than what's in the pic, did you get any confirmation that the '86 is an SSP?

I did not get any more info but I'm working on it. :) The previous owner that I talked to on the phone said he might have some auction paperwork on his home PC. I told him I was also looking for a pic of the door tag and buck tags, and he said he would contact the current owner and see if he would share that.

[ImEvil1]

I did not get any more info but I'm working on it. :) The previous owner that I talked to on the phone said he might have some auction paperwork on his home PC. I told him I was also looking for a pic of the door tag and buck tags, and he said he would contact the current owner and see if he would share that.

Cool....I'm interested in seeing if that batch is a consecutively numbered group of SSPs or if it's a set of special ordered DSO 83 cars.

[28HopUp]

Good stuff.

Bill/Mick, other than what's in the pic, did you get any confirmation that the '86 is an SSP?

I included these VINs in my next batch of 10 Marti Reports, ordered today. Once they come in, then we'll know for sure if they are SSPs or not (unless Mick receives more pictures). If we jumped the gun on calling them SSPs, it will be easy enough to remedy.

[ImEvil1]

I included these VINs in my next batch of 10 Marti Reports, ordered today. Once they come in, then we'll know for sure if they are SSPs or not (unless Mick receives more pictures). If we jumped the gun on calling them SSPs, it will be easy enough to remedy.

They may be SSPs. The FBI ordered both civilian and package cars, and sometimes both in the same year.

[28HopUp]

While waiting for the Marti Reports to confirm the 32-car batch containing the 1986 FBI car, along with reports for TxDPS (from 1983, 1984, and 1986) and FHP (1988), I thought I would post up a recent addition. Here is the page on a 1989 government/GSA Mustang -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1989GOV283823/info283823.htm


This is the 3rd GSA SSP to turn up in that batch of 138 cars, which also contains a likely OSP Mustang at the beginning. :)

[FoxChassis]

Re: KF283705 being a likely OSP....other known OSPs went through the same dealer. (74C017 = Damerow Beaverton Ford). ;)

[MOstang]

Great work. I'm learning as I keep up with the VIN project reading, so I only pose this question to better educate myself. When you refer to a VIN range, can it be said for certain cars in that range are SSPs? Or is this just merely one more "check list item", or an "SSP confimation method" if you will, that folks can use as they try and verify cars believed as SSPs and maybe missing door sticker, buck tags, etc.? Thanks for helping educate me on this one. :)

[28HopUp]

Mike, I hope that I am understanding your question as I type my reply. The rationale behind using AutoCheck (or other online methods) to confirm SSPs is flawed. :eek: Or perhaps a better word would be "imperfect". Let me explain.

If we look at the 1982 CHP notchbacks, we know with certainty the SSPs that are part of that VIN range. Using Marti Reports, we have confirmed the first and last VINs that were assigned in that DSO. We have verified the 1982 SSP notchbacks using photos and the California smog database. We can use AutoCheck reports to help document those remaining cars whose VINs are not activated because we are 100% certain the CHP ordered and used these cars.

But what about other batches with confirmed SSPs? On many of the FHP cars, we were able to confirm VINs as SSPs through pictures, auction paperwork, and Florida's DMV website. However, there are instances where we found DMV information for cars in the same batch that were not sandwiched between confirmed SSPs, and we haven't confirmed the DSO to match it to the FHP. Those SSPs are listed as "unconfirmed", in terms of agency use.

We all know of those 1988 SSPs which were extra cars not used by the OSP, with most of the N-I-S cars being sold to Saleen for conversion. If we order Marti Reports, we could establish a VIN range and use AutoCheck to confirm the ones in-between as SSPs. But which ones were used by the OSP, and which ones were not? It's not clear. Yes, they are all SSPs, but we cannot ID how they were used.

Then there's some of the 1993 South Carolina SSPs like this one...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993MISC210439/info210439.htm

...which were ordered but never put into service. Yes, we are able to ID this car as Never-In-Service, but we cannot ID the rest of the cars in the batch (in terms of use), even if we confirm the beginning and ending VINs in the DSO.

Does that answer your question? :)

[ImEvil1]

Great work. I'm learning as I keep up with the VIN project reading, so I only pose this question to better educate myself. When you refer to a VIN range, can it be said for certain cars in that range are SSPs? Or is this just merely one more "check list item", or an "SSP confimation method" if you will, that folks can use as they try and verify cars believed as SSPs and maybe missing door sticker, buck tags, etc.? Thanks for helping educate me on this one. :)

Mike,

To follow-up on what Bill said:

We know, from auction records, that the SSPs were batch-produced with consecutive VIN numbers assigned to the order (DSO). So if agency "X" ordered 10 Mustangs, they would have been assigned (usually) consecutive VINs, ie. 100001 through 100009 (last 6). In this example, if we have a confirmed SSP with the VIN 100005, and the list of consecutive VINs around 0005 only shows a block of 10, it's a pretty safe bet that we've identified the other 9. Conversely, the list might show more than 10 grouped together, which then requires more work to determine where the 10 fall, ie. a group of 40 consecutive VINS, where Agency "X" ordered 10, Agency "Y" ordered 25, and Agency "Z" ordered 5.

Does that help?

[MOstang]

Bill and Mike - Thanks for your posts...you've both done a great job of understanding my questions and to help clarify and educate me on this aspect of the project. The SSP VIN project is great for the hobby and an interesting journey. The detective work that has occurred and is ongoing is very interesting to watch take place. I know many have contributed from the SSP community and we will all benefit form the hard work, so that's great as well. I appreciate everyone's efforts...it is hard work, but a labor of love I'm sure.

[ImEvil1]

Here is an '87 FBI car that some of you might remember from the movie "Silence of the Lambs". We've talked about this one before, but for those that weren't around back then, this car was wrecked during a test at the FBI academy. It is also NOT an SSP, just a DSO 83 car. What was left of the car was crushed back in 2008.

Our VIN registry did not originally show this one in a consecutive batch, just sandwiched in the middle of two other batches. This is probably because there are no Carfax records that exist for this one; it was sold to GSA and never made it out of the agency. Also, most GSA cars aren't technically titled until their first sale at auction. So, this is a minor glitch in our project that only affects a select few cars.

[MOstang]

Hi Mike - What were the circumstances around when that picture was taken. Given the rust it would seem it was some years later. Thanks.

[ImEvil1]

Hi Mike - What were the circumstances around when that picture was taken. Given the rust it would seem it was some years later. Thanks.

It was....I took the pic in 2005.

[FoxChassis]

That's a cool pic, and an interesting back-story. Thanks for posting Mike!

[ImEvil1]

That's a cool pic, and an interesting back-story. Thanks for posting Mike!

No prob, Mick. If you get time, could you take a look at the next 4 after this one to see if they are missing records altogether or just not included because they aren't coupes?

[FoxChassis]

I'll try to look through everything later. I happened to do a lot of VIN research that year (compared to every other 'aero year') so I should have a lot of stuff to look through.

[FoxChassis]

HF219534
HF219537
HF219545

All three of them have no records for any body or engine (P40A, P40E, P41A, P41E, P42E, P44A, P44E, or P45E). If those three were actually built as 5.0L coupes that would have made a group of 28 straight P40E VINs. (HF219535 and HF219536 were also 5.0L coupes)

It would be interesting to see if that group of 9, 7, and 7 VINs in the VIN Project, and 219535 and 219536, are GSA/DSO 83-xxxx.

[ImEvil1]

HF219534
HF219537
HF219545

All three of them have no records for any body or engine (P40A, P40E, P41A, P41E, P42E, P44A, P44E, or P45E). If those three were actually built as 5.0L coupes that would have made a group of 28 straight P40E VINs. (HF219535 and HF219536 were also 5.0L coupes)

It would be interesting to see if that group of 9, 7, and 7 VINs in the VIN Project, and 219535 and 219536, are GSA/DSO 83-xxxx.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks for looking into it.

[28HopUp]

I put some "want ads" out on various craigslists looking for info about SSPs that might still be on the road today. Got a hit on a 1986 FBI unit!

Somebody that knew of the car, who also purportedly is a multi-SSP owner, sent me a pic of the lower left corner of the window sticker and told a previous owner of the car about the ad I put up. The previous owner contacted me and gave me his phone number so I called him and chatted a bit. He sold it a couple of years ago, and still keeps in contact with the current owner. Hopefully I can get some more info on it.

Bill put up a page for the car here: http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1986FBInotaSSP267059/info267059.htm

I included these VINs in my next batch of 10 Marti Reports, ordered today. Once they come in, then we'll know for sure if they are SSPs or not (unless Mick receives more pictures). If we jumped the gun on calling them SSPs, it will be easy enough to remedy.

Well, the attached Marti Reports confirm that the first and last cars in that block of 32 cars are DSO 83 vehicles, but they are not SSP Mustangs. I modified the page created for this FBI unit to identify it as not being a SSP, and removed the link from the Project (unless we want to ID civilian cars in our project when found). The car that Mick located still has a very interesting story about how it was found. Hopefully, some more cars will turn up through his Craigslist want-ads.

[ImEvil1]

Nice job, Bill.

[FoxChassis]

A couple more in that batch look to be still on the road today...GF267062 in VA and GF267067 in CA. I put out want ads for info from those two. I am going to call the previous owner of the FBI car again this weekend, to see if I can get more info from him and or the current owner.

[28HopUp]

Thanks. I'd like to solicit your opinions. On the list of VINs, would it be OK if we noted these DSO 83 cars as civilian Mustangs ordered by the GSA, yet do not make the VIN a hyperlink to a vehicle page? We did a similar thing on the batch of 1985 CHP Mustangs when we found through Marti Reports that the first two cars were not SSPs.

[FoxChassis]

I think indicating where we have verified that a car is NOT an SSP would be useful information. It's only text. ;)

[ImEvil1]

I agree.

[Roundhat]

This is my cars vin number 1FABP40E4JF240826 .... I would like to be added to the vin project.

[28HopUp]

This is my cars vin number 1FABP40E4JF240826 .... I would like to be added to the vin project.

We went through your previous threads about the car and used those pictures on the page for our Project. We also included Florida DMV information about your SSP:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/FHP/1988FHP240826/info240826.htm


In addition, we have just confirmed that block of 1988 FHP Mustangs (DSO #24-0237) with the latest batch of Marti Reports, and presently have 114 screenshots from the Florida DMV showing police-branded titles, which we will use to create pages for each SSP. :)

[kapracing]

Hi Bill,
Got another GSP to add to VIN project. It's unit 1247 a 91 GSP pretty much untouched. original purchaser from state still owns it... Maybe that'll change soon ? Who knows I don't own a 91 lol :-)

[kapracing]

a few more...

[28HopUp]

That's great, Bobby! Here is the new page for this SSP using your pictures:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1991GSP176523/info176523.htm


That now makes 4 GSPs from 1991 with DSO #21-0259! :)


I think indicating where we have verified that a car is NOT an SSP would be useful information. It's only text. ;)
I agree.

I took care of adding the notations about the DS0 83 cars. Thanks for the input!

[28HopUp]

ChrisL posted an update on Dan's 86 FHP, as seen here:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4345


Chris just sent me a PDF file of the Marti Report for this car, which I used to create the following page for this SSP in our VIN Project:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/FHP/1986FHP248589/info248589.htm


Note that this car is near the end of a batch of 60 cars, and that the DSO is #24-0243. There is a one-car gap between this batch and the next batch of 104 cars containing FHP Mustangs with the same DSO. So my question is - Did Ford insert 248593 (if built at all) in-between cars with the same DSO, or is this car actually part of a larger group of cars?

[ImEvil1]

Note that this car is near the end of a batch of 60 cars, and that the DSO is #24-0243. There is a one-car gap between this batch and the next batch of 104 cars containing FHP Mustangs with the same DSO. So my question is - Did Ford insert 248593 (if built at all) in-between cars with the same DSO, or is this car actually part of a larger group of cars?

It might be the same type of issue that Mick and I were recently discussing. If there aren't any records, it might not have been included in the consecutive list to begin with. I'm betting that we are talking about one big group of consecutive cars with different order numbers in them.

[FoxChassis]

I just checked GF248593 with all possible body and engine codes. No records for any of them with either AutoCheck or Carfax. So either Ford didn't build a car with that CUN or it did and that CUN has no manufacture/ship-to record and no registration/inspection/accident/etc records, and therefore has no history to report.

[28HopUp]

Interesting! Thanks Mick :)

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

Could it be the car was exported. Have you come across any cars, not necessarily SSP that show to have been built for export to other countries.

Tom

[28HopUp]

If I were to guess, I'd say that the VIN was never assigned by Ford (as they did with the last 6 VINs in the batch of 400 CHP Mustangs in 1982). Kevin Marti might be able to find out, but I'm not sure the time and effort would be worth it on this VIN.

[ImEvil1]

If I were to guess, I'd say that the VIN was never assigned by Ford (as they did with the last 6 VINs in the batch of 400 CHP Mustangs in 1982). Kevin Marti might be able to find out, but I'm not sure the time and effort would be worth it on this VIN.

It would be interesting to know, since we may have more problems with these types of records down the road.

[28HopUp]

That's true, Mike. We have made a few corrections in the list of VINs as we find them. That's the nice thing about how you set up the Project. The pages are easy to modify when something new surfaces, and the information on confirmed SSPs will not change over time because we limited the pages to only show the documentation on cars as opposed to being a registry of who owns what.

[28HopUp]

Mick has come through with some more great finds:

1990 GSA (DSO #83-0114) (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1990GOV191640/info191640.htm)
1990 New York State Police (never in service) (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NY/1990NY205556/info205556.htm)
1991 Mississippi Highway Patrol (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MS/1991MS143556/info143556.htm)


I am most excited about that last one, since it is the first Mississippi SSP added to our project. Great detective work, Mick!

[NoDrama43]

Mick has come through with some more great finds: I am most excited about that last one, since it is the first Mississippi SSP added to our project. Great detective work, Mick! Also, we started to identify VINs known to be a Zimmer (see attached photo). We are not creating VIN pages for them; just making notations on the list of VINs where we know these numbers are not SSP Mustangs.

Thank you Mick for all the work you are doing to help with this project. Years from now people will be very thankful you took the initiative to do this work !!!

Bill I noticed you only have one 1988 Missouri SSP documented in the vin file. Did I send you the documentation from Missouri HP reference confirmation of the other 16 SSP cars they purchased in 1988? If not let remind me when you are here and I can provide you copies of it all. It will confirm all of the cars Missouri purchased that year. I also have a crash report that will confirm a P# and License plate number for another car if it ever surfaces.

[FoxChassis]

We could use more help if anybody wants to pitch in. :)

Checking for Zimmers is relatively easy to do, it's just a little time consuming. I can show you how. ID'ing them will help eliminate batches in the VIN Project as being possible SSPs, which in turn cuts down on the amount of work we need to do to ID SSPs, and the cost of running vehicle history reports and/or Marti reports.

I have only been keeping track of Zimmer VINs due to the database I started a few years ago for four-eyed Capri and Mustangs. That database led to me approaching Mike about what we know today as the SSP VIN Project. :D

[28HopUp]

Jim, please make copies of the MO information and I will pick them up from you when we meet for our trip to the MCA Show in a few weeks. :D

Mick, your efforts with getting this project started and ongoing are GREATLY appreciated!

We could use more help if anybody wants to pitch in. :)

This is very true. If anyone wants to do some leg-work by pulling AutoCheck Reports, we could take advantage of their 30-day unlimited offer. Mick & I could prepare a list of VINs in Excel for somebody willing to establish an unlimited AC account (for 30-days). There are 100s of VINs on which we would like to get AC reports. Once a page is pulled up on your browser, there is a way to right-click (at least using FireFox) to save the HTML page in a few keystrokes. Each page could be saved in a folder, and then emailed to me for adding to the Project. We would need to compile the list before somebody opened up the account, which costs $44.99 (which is the same cost for running 3 Marti Reports). The only reason we have held off spending the money is due to the time involved to assemble the list and save the pages. We will finalize the list if somebody wants to run and save them. Please let me know... :cool:

[28HopUp]

Bobby found some pictures online of a 1990 GSP that shows signs of having LoJack antennae on the roof:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1990GSP188107/info188107.htm


Thanks again, Bobby! :)

[MOstang]

We could use more help if anybody wants to pitch in. :)

I'll offer to pitch in and help out if needed, just let me know.

[28HopUp]

Thanks Mike! I have some stuff going on this weekend, but I will follow up with you next week. :)

[28HopUp]

It's been a few weeks since we have added any SSPs to the project. I added a couple today, and included new pictures for some that were already in our project. The most notable new addition came from pictures taken at the MCA Show in Beaumont of a 1990 TxDPS build sheet that TomM. brought to one of our after-show get-togethers in the hotel lobby:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/TXDPS/1990TXDPS149423/info149423.htm

Thanks Tom!!! :D

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Next week I'll have a Marti Report and door/buck tag photos for a 1993 NHP to submit. It is one VIN before the unconfirmed VIN already on the list and coupled with a NHP memo showing 8 1993 NHP SSPs as of 10/93, confirmation that the NHP had a total of 8 consecutive VIN SSPs in 1993 should be achieved.

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Assuming production of SSPs was over by 10/93, then Nevada only had a total of 8 1993 SSPs. This is the same number of consecutive VINs as in the VIN project. The red one below is the SSP I will be submitting info on next week. The last 3 digits of the Trooper ID# were the license plate #.

These are all the cars for the entire state in October 1993. Regions are: 1 Vegas, 2 Reno/Carson, 3 Elko. ID#'s are the Trooper ID# assigned to the car which would be the same as the license plate #.

They are listed by unit number, year, make, model, ID#, and region.

062-- 89-- Ford-- Mustang-- O/S Reg 3
157-- 89-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6326 Reg 1
076-- 90-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6139 Reg 1
085-- 90-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6221 Reg 1
101-- 90-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6125 Reg 2
217-- 90-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6243 Reg 1
005-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6163 Reg 2
012-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6297 Reg 1
028-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6172 Reg 1
033-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6261 Reg 2
042-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6169 Reg 2
051-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6241 Reg 2
059-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6192 Reg 2
093-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6093 Reg 1
104-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6245 Reg 3
114-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6080 Reg 3
141-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6205 Reg 1
183-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6318 Reg 3
215-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6242 Reg 1
216-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6244 Reg 1
262-- 92-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6167 Reg 3
018-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6158 Reg 2
049-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6342 Reg 1
086-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6153 Reg 1
089-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6203 Reg 2
105-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6210 Reg 2
365-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6226 Reg 1
366-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6284 Reg 1
367-- 93-- Ford-- Mustang-- 6282 Reg 1

[28HopUp]

Did you buy a Nevada SSP? I remember one for sale not too long ago. The info you posted is great, and may be valuable as new cars turn up. If possible, can you scan the original documents and include them with the 93 information you will be getting?

[FoxChassis]

Anyone every heard of NHP having SSP Mustangs from the 1985 model year?

[NoDrama43]

Nevada had SSP cars in 85. There is a member here who owns one.

[28HopUp]

Rich, aka CHP8336, owns one of the three Nevada SSPs from 1985. One of the cars was totaled when it went into service, and Rich lost track of the 3rd one (but I believe was able to buy its original wheels).

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Did you buy a Nevada SSP? I remember one for sale not too long ago. The info you posted is great, and may be valuable as new cars turn up. If possible, can you scan the original documents and include them with the 93 information you will be getting?

Yes, I did buy a 93 NHP out of CA. When it gets here I'll photograph all the documentation and forward it to you. I'm even getting both of the license plates that it wore during service.

[28HopUp]

Congrats on the new SSP! :) I think that one belonged to Tony/WopMotor, right?

[FoxChassis]

Sorry, I meant 1986 model year NHPs.

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Congrats on the new SSP! :) I think that one belonged to Tony/WopMotor, right?

That is correct.

[28HopUp]

Sorry, I meant 1986 model year NHPs.

This one was thought to perhaps be a 1986 Nevada SSP...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4314&highlight=1986+Nevada


...but it was never confirmed. Here's a picture from the other site that is identified as an 85/86, but the caps are certainly 86 (note the color of the sail panel too) -

http://www.sspmustang.org/images/NevadaSPMustang.jpg
Photo credit to Ryan Forsloff

Compare that to the attached picture found in this thread (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3482) of an 85 (which also shows 86 caps at times, but the sail panel is silver) -

[FoxChassis]

Reason I ask is GF206550-GF206559 all went to NV originally.

[28HopUp]

Thanks go out to DougP who provided add'l pictures for our use on his 1990 NC car -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1990NC145300/info145300.htm


There's some nice documentation!

Reason I ask is GF206550-GF206559 all went to NV originally.

We may need to pull some Marti Reports then... :)

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Here it is! The car is still in CA, but the report is here.

[28HopUp]

Congrats on getting a BEAUTIFUL car! Here is the new page in our VIN Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NV/1993NV142243/info142243.htm

[MOstang]

:2thumbs:

[NoDrama43]

nice car !!

[EXNODRAMANOTCH]

Thanks for the compliments. Can't wait to get it here and drive it!

[nighthawk756]

Wow, I am soooo jealous! Congrats brother, what a beautiful and rare bird that is! Enjoy it!! ;)

[28HopUp]

Here's another rare bird, the 1983 Georgia State Patrol SSP that Bobby recently found -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1983GSP188933/info188933.htm

Can't wait to see/add more pictures! :D

[28HopUp]

We ordered a few more Marti Reports yesterday, which should come in by the end of next week. Hope to comfirm blocks of SSPs from DSP, FHP, GSP, NC, OK, and TxDPS. :)

[28HopUp]

Nine of the fifteen requested Marti Reports came back (I'm sure the others will arrive soon). There were a few minor disappointments:

I was hoping to confirm three blocks of 1985 SSPs from North Carolina, Oklahoma, and Texas. Although all three cars came back with the SSP option, the DSOs were different than earlier cars within the same batch of VINs. So we cannot verify the batches (yet).

On a positive note, we confirmed an entire batch of 100 VINs as being 1988 GSP cars. There were already five SSPs confirmed in the batch, but we now know the first and last VINs assigned in this DSO of 1988 GSP Mustangs. Thanks to Bobby for these specific reports, which are attached as PDF files. I will add these cars to the project once I sort out my new laptop.

[28HopUp]

Attached is the Marti Report that I was hoping to match up to a confirmed 1985 North Carolina SSP. This is from the same batch as FF251154 (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1985NC251154/info251154.htm), but has a different DSO. :(

[ImEvil1]

What are the options on the earlier, confirmed car?

[28HopUp]

I'm not sure Mike. All we have is the Buck Tag from the Craigslist ad.

[NoDrama43]

there were multiple orders on different DSO numbers for 1984 Oregon State Police Cars. Isn't it entirely possible that any agency could have multiple orders placed for the same year, hence several different groups of vins?

[28HopUp]

Yes. Texas DPS did that most years, too.

[willyb93]

I ordered a Marti report for my cars, I will post a picture as soon as I get it.

[NoDrama43]

I ordered a Marti report for my cars, I will post a picture as soon as I get it.

PERFECT way to verify your car as an SSP. Once you get it post up a copy so we can attach it to the vin in the vin project pages.

[xxtrpr]

I sent Bill my marti report so it can be added.

[28HopUp]

I am back in business in terms of setting up the new laptop for FTP access to the site. Here are a few notable mentions for new/revised pages:

Bobby's 1992 GSP (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1992GSP176480/info176480.htm) - added a cool in-service picture.
xxtrpr's 1985 NC (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1985NC251187/info251187.htm) - added it to the Project (with Marti)
willyb93's 1993 Ford Test Car (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993MISC109123/info109123.htm) - now added to the Project



That's just a short list of recent changes. There were also a number of cars REMOVED from the Project. After a few days of discussion, we decided that some of the documentation being used for certain cars was not really a sufficient form of verification for our Project. For instance, the Texas DMV pages only confirmed that a car had been titled in Texas, but the information did not confirm prior police history, agency use, or confirmation that the car was equipped with the SSP option (despite being sandwiched in-between other documented SSPs). So those pages were pulled. We also went through and removed the pages with AutoCheck paperwork. Although some pages indicated prior police use, the AC information did not meet our collective standards for inclusion in the Project.

Ongoing, we will concentrate on documenting suspected VIN ranges with Marti Reports (there are a bunch of FHPs that fall into this category), without worrying about trying to fill in the blanks for cars in-between. We will also be taking a critical eye towards other cars to make sure the information is reliable, and that wording is consistent. This way, the Project will be a credible resource for those looking to confirm SSPs in the future.

[28HopUp]

In an effort to put out quality information, we took a critical look at some of the CHP Mustangs in the Project. In particular, we gave a lot of thought to cars which were verified only with CA Smog Site information (without any matches to e-plate numbers). It was a similar situation to the cars we removed this week with only Texas DMV information. These CHP cars had no documentation about prior police history, agency use, or the SSP option, so we removed their links in the Project. With all of the recent changes to the Project this week, the final result by year is as follows:

1982 . . 22 SSPs
1983 . . 34
1984 . . 70
1985 . .246
1986 . .127
1987 . .388
1988 . .255
1989 . .427
1990 . .269
1991 . .147
1992 . .190
1993 . .377
-----------
. . . 2,542 SSPs Total in Project


We will continue to add SSPs to the Project when we can document them as such. :) As always, THANK YOU to everyone who has contributed to the effort here. :D

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

The Texas cars would not show Police use on the Title. Just Texas Department of Public Safety. Plus they have purged files up to a certain year and the original info will be lost. I hope that the cars that are in the ranges of the VIN I provided will be noted as being Tx DPS cars when they are in between cars. I wasnt able to make al the Auction those years.


Tom

[28HopUp]

The Texas cars would not show Police use on the Title. Just Texas Department of Public Safety. Plus they have purged files up to a certain year and the original info will be lost. I hope that the cars that are in the ranges of the VIN I provided will be noted as being Tx DPS cars when they are in between cars. I wasnt able to make al the Auction those years.

Tom, you bring up a good point. We are still considering how we want to handle those "in-between" cars which are part of a batch of VINs with documented SSPs at a starting and ending point (with the same DSO #). The special-paint cars no doubt were ordered/used by that particular agency, but some of the regularly painted SSPs may have been ordered by one agency but used by another, or perhaps were never used in-service (some of the OSP and SC cars are good examples of this latter situation). Those SSPs are tougher to confirm. So we are considering the best ways to identify these cars without over-reaching the documentation we presently have available. And we want to get everything decided beforehand so we do not need to make mass revisions later.

[28HopUp]

Doug sent in quite a few more pictures to help document his 1993 NCSHP car, as seen here:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1993NC198380/info198380.htm

THANK YOU! :D

[28HopUp]

I hope that the cars that are in the ranges of the VIN I provided will be noted as being Tx DPS cars when they are in between cars.

Here is the situation which caused us to re-evaluate how we publish information in our Project. Although those "in-between" cars are most likely SSP Mustangs, it is impossible to know for sure unless new documentation surfaces. For example, the 1984 CHPs (so far) all have the same DSO, but they are contained in two blocks of VINs which are separated by over 1,000 regular cars. Technically speaking, those 1K cars are "in-between" VINs since they are grouped between batches of confirmed SSPs with the same DSO. If we expand this, it means a civilian car could be part of a block of VINs where we have solid documentation which confirms a matching DSO for the first and last car in the batch. Below is an example of this situation with some 1991 TxDPS cars confirmed with auction records:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NotSSPs/91screenshot.jpg


The link for that non-SSP goes to its Marti Report (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NotSSPs/91-notaSSP140240marti1.pdf), which does not list the SSP option. For whatever reason, Ford built that red coupe inside a group of Texas DPS cars. We are sure there are plenty of other anomalies we haven't discovered yet. So unless there is some type of supporting documentation about an "in-between" car, then we cannot assume that it is part of that DSO.

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

Have you gotten Marti Reports on the 91 Tx cars? They should not be SSP's just LX Sports.


TOM

[28HopUp]

Tom, I have not yet gotten Marti Reports for those 91s, which was commented on earlier in this thread -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showpost.php?p=39055&postcount=371

I had ASSUMED those were SSPs (and we know what happens when I ASS-U-ME). Now you've got me wondering about quite a few things... :headscratch: We can fix those 91s in the Project if you are certain that they are LX Sport models. Do you know of any other instances where auction paperwork may be for a LX Mustang and not a SSP?

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

I just remember seeing the 16 inch wheels on them at the Auction. They could have a DSO attatched to them. They did not use them for patrol but DPS Undercover.


Tom

[FoxChassis]

MF140240 spent it's whole life in TX. Looks like it is still alive today. Latest event was registration renewal in Burton, TX on Dec 1, 2012.

That whole batch of eleven could have been a 'regular' DSO order, without any special-order items and therefore only a 'regular' two-digit DSO, but still used by the TxDPS.

[FoxChassis]

Perhaps some vehicle title histories can be run?

http://txdmv.gov/forms/doc_download/1006-vtr-275-request-for-texas-motor-vehicle-information

Since the DPPA (Driver's Privacy Protection Act, 1994) went into effect, "research" is a legit reason for requesting vehicle title histories in many states, Texas being one of them...

PERMITTED USE
...
Use in research or in producing statistical reports, but only if the personal information is NOT published, redisclosed, or used to contact any individual.

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

The problem with Texas is that have purged some of the Micro Fiche up to a certain year. So some may not get the full history.

Tom

[28HopUp]

I just remember seeing the 16 inch wheels on them at the Auction. They could have a DSO attatched to them. They did not use them for patrol but DPS Undercover.

Tom, thanks for the add'l information. I went in and changed those three 91s to remove the SSP notations I had given them. We're good. :)

[28HopUp]

Bobby contacted the seller of that burned-out 88 car in Las Vegas (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5041), and received pictures of the VIN label and Buck Tags. The car not only is a confirmed Utah Highway Patrol SSP (now added to the Project)...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/UT/1988UT275834/info275834.htm


...but it also has the same DSO as two other SSPs from the same 80-car batch of VINs which were never confirmed as UHP Mustangs:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/UT/1988UT275815/info275815.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/UT/1988UT275816/info275816.htm


Thanks again, Bobby! I love it when a car pops up that confirms other SSPs. It's a shame that this SSP is probably too far gone to be saved, but it will live on in our VIN Project! :D

[kapracing]

Bobby contacted the seller of that burned-out 88 car in Las Vegas (http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5041), and received pictures of the VIN label and Buck Tags. The car not only is a confirmed Utah Highway Patrol SSP (now added to the Project)...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/UT/1988UT275834/info275834.htm


...but it also has the same DSO as two other SSPs from the same 80-car batch of VINs which were never confirmed as UHP Mustangs:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/UT/1988UT275815/info275815.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/UT/1988UT275816/info275816.htm


Thanks again, Bobby! I love it when a car pops up that confirms other SSPs. It's a shame that this SSP is probably too far gone to be saved, but it will live on in our VIN Project! :D



I wish it were closer. If it was got now and out of the weather it probably could be saved. New roof skin, and right quarter panel and a heck of a lot of clean up... But it's too far (distance) for me. Hopefully someone will save it!

And your welcome ...
I love this VIN Project and glad to play even a small part in it! :-)

[28HopUp]

ChrisL found two CHP Mustangs on Craigslist, and received an add'l picture on one of them from the seller which he provided for our VIN Project:

1984 CHP - http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1984CHP204032/info204032.htm
1986 CHP - http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1986CHP246950/info246950.htm


Thanks Chris!!! :)

[28HopUp]

Jack, aka Va 5.0, found the following ad on Craigslist -

http://charlestonwv.craigslist.org/cto/3910952060.html

1990 SSP Mustang police package from North Carolina, 73k miles on the body, has older 302 in it and comes with a 5.0 roller engine, but don't know anything about it. The factory computer with no limiters and harness are in tact. Automatic, has two AOD transmissions that goes with it. Interior is in good shape, no tears, front seats are slightly faded. Comes with an extra set of front fenders. The drivers quarter panel and door needs body work. Rear end is bent, but comes with a good rear end that's ready to go in it. This car will make a great project car for someone, I just don't have the time or extra money to work on it. Asking $1250 or best offer. If interested, call 304-444-0814. •Location: Marmet



The listing contained photos of the VIN label and the Buck Tags. So not only were we able to add this SSP to our VIN Project...

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1990NC163471/info163471.htm


...but we were able to confirm the agency use on the following SSP from the same batch/DSO -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/NC/1990NC163477/info163477.htm


THANK YOU, Jack! :)

[28HopUp]

I forgot to post about this last month...

We provided some VIN label information to Kevin Marti in exchange for him running a few Marti Reports for free. As such, we received 6 reports at no charge. Five of these were 1987 Texas DPS cars (first or last VINs in batches of TxDPS VINs), and the other one was the final VIN in the 9-car batch of Delaware SSP Mustangs.

:thumbsup:

[FoxChassis]

Interesting that the first and last in the Delaware batch have different DSOs, and different exterior and interior colors.

[28HopUp]

Frankly, I never noticed that the DSOs were off by one digit. I remember that the Delaware State Police Mustangs were unmarked and painted different colors.

[28HopUp]

Mick has a keen sense of things when it comes to VINs and possible SSP Mustangs. Here is a thread about his search for a possible 1983 Arizona DPS Mustang -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4967


As stated at the end of the thread, the Marti Report came back that this particular car of interest was equipped with the SSP option. So we can now add this 83 to our Project -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1983MISC182434/info182434.htm



AWESOME JOB, MICK! :D

[28HopUp]

Here's a situation where confirming a SSP through a Marti Report caused me to remove a bunch of cars from the Project.

As discussed previously, we have used FHP auction records and Florida DMV records to confirm FHP cars where the vehicles have police-branded titles. In some cases, a range of cars had yet to be confirmed as FHP Mustangs by matching DSOs through Marti Reports. There was such a situation within a 120-car batch of 1989 VINs. There are dozens of confirmed FHP Mustangs within that batch, but the final 29 cars with police-branded titles were unconfirmed as FHP Mustangs. So I ordered a Marti Report for that 29th car. It came back as a different DSO, and it was not a special-paint car like other FHP Mustangs. So I revised the page for that 29th car:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1989MISC212057/info212057.htm


...and removed the 28 cars ahead of it. Yes, they are most likely SSP Mustangs, but we cannot presume them to be FHP Mustangs. And since there isn't a DSO match, they needed to be removed until such time that they can be confirmed through other means. It's all about offering quality information, versus quantity.

[kapracing]

You are doing an excellent job Bill !!!

[nighthawk756]

It's all about offering quality information, versus quantity.

That sentence sums it up perfectly! Great job as always!! :thumbsup:

[28HopUp]

Thanks guys! It was easy to get caught up in the momentum of documenting these SSPs. But we had to be careful about the information we were publishing. There are a large number of cars which we are fairly confident about them being SSPs, but the proof is lacking. So we will hold off for now, rather than bump up our numbers by putting something out there that is weak. There is still one more batch of FHP cars to be locked up with 2 Marti Reports, which we will get done in the near future. And we continually see new SSPs show up that help verify other cars with weak documentation.

I appreciate all the help that the members have provided to make this such a great resource for the hobby. :)

[28HopUp]

I was going through the photos that I had saved on my tablet, and found a picture of some FHP documentation for a 93 SSP Mustang that we already had in our Project using auction paperwork. The new FHP paperwork listed the VIN, Unit Number, Troop Number, and name of the Trooper assigned to the vehicle (which has been redacted):

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/FHP/JY/info170425.htm


Very Cool! I just wish I knew how I ended up with this paperwork so I could give proper credit to the source. :)

[28HopUp]

ChrisL sent me an email with some pictures he received of a 1985 CHP Mustang. The car turned up after he placed some ads on Craigslist in search of Nevada SSP Mustangs. We already had this car confirmed through the Ford Special Equipment Parts List for this DSO, but now the car has even more documentation:

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/CHP/1985CHP154cars/info234831.htm


The VIN for CHP #E408315 is one digit off from this SSP. Thanks again, Chris! :)

[kapracing]

Here's another 88 GSP that shown up on eBay...

[kapracing]

Clearer pic

[28HopUp]

Got it! :) Thanks Bobby -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1988GSP225739/info225739.htm

[28HopUp]

Somebody recently asked how many SSPs we have documented so far. Here is the current count as of today:

1982 . . 22 SSPs
1983 . . 35
1984 . . 73
1985 . .246
1986 . .151
1987 . .389
1988 . .263
1989 . .403
1990 . .271
1991 . .148
1992 . .191
1993 . .377
-----------
. . . 2,569 SSPs Total in Project


We ordered five more Marti Reports this week, thanks in part to Bobby who forwarded some scratch to run 3 reports on likely GSP Mustangs (thanks again Bobby!). I will post those up once they arrive. :)

[28HopUp]

Thanks go out to Bobby for having three Marti Reports run. Two of them came back as SSP Mustangs, and are part of the GSP group from 1983 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1983GSP188925/info188925.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1983GSP188934/info188934.htm


The third report was for a possible GSP from 1987. It was an educated guess which did not pan out for us. Still, the Marti Report DID turn up something interesting (check out the second option listed). :)

[nighthawk756]

Thanks go out to Bobby for having three Marti Reports run. Two of them came back as SSP Mustangs, and are part of the GSP group from 1983 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1983GSP188925/info188925.htm
http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/GSP/1983GSP188934/info188934.htm


The third report was on a possible GSP from 1987. It was an educated guess which did not pan out for us. Still, the Marti Report DID turn up something interesting (check out the second option listed). :)

Wow....McLaren....what a coincidence! :cool:

[28HopUp]

I know! :) Not only is it a coincidence to have randomly found an ASC McLaren, but we confirmed that at least some of them were ordered with 6-digit DSO numbers. Attached is a VIN label for another 1987 ASC McLaren that also has a 6-digit DSO.

So a question comes up now regarding our VIN Project. We have been adding a notation to civilian VINs when found to say that they are not SSPs. Should we continue this practice with the ASC McLarens? The VINs for quite of few of them are known.

[kapracing]

I vote yes...

I know our PROJECT is for SSP's
But i think any info we find should be posted up for a more (complete) list.

Just my 2 cents worth:-)

[MOstang]

I agree with Bobby and say why not? Given one might mistake or misrepresent (without putting a little extra effort) a DSO on a car like this as being associated with an SSP.

[FoxChassis]

Until now I had not realized that 1987-1990 ascMclaren convertibles were build on the LX 5.0L coupe body (P40E). I had seen the VINs for these cars before I just had not payed attention that they were P40E. I sent Bill an email last night covering all of the aero asc VINs. The total is over 1800.

[kapracing]

Good stuff!

POOR BILL !!!! :-0
LOL

[28HopUp]

I sent Bill an email last night covering all of the aero asc VINs. The total is over 1800.

Once I regained consciousness I was able to process that number in my head. I think I will start off with adding a comment like:

- [ascMcLaren, not a SSP]



...to the cars that are confirmed, as opposed to creating a registry for the cars by listing all of the VINs indicated so far. It is still quite a few cars. And identifying them as not being SSPs is still helpful to our efforts, especially since they came with 6-digit DSO numbers too.

[1989 Tx DPS SSP]

As an '88 ASC McLaren owner , I vote yes. There is interesting info on these cars on the ASC Forum. I have my Marti Report for mine.


Tom

[28HopUp]

The confirmed 1987-1990 ascMcLaren VINs (those in batches of 3 or more) are now indicated in our Project. :) There was one batch of 1988 VINs which included a SSP Mustang (so far) in addition to the ascMcLaren VINs.

[28HopUp]

This 93 GSA car just popped up for sale, and the seller included pictures of the VIN label and Buck Tags -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/MISC/1993GOV166937/info166937.htm


:)

[ImEvil1]

Didn't see the ad. eBay or Craigslist?

[28HopUp]

I found it on ebay using www.dailylister.com to search for "SSP Mustang". Here is the listing -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Ford-Mustang-LX2-Foxbody-notch-SSP-/221274475477?ViewItem=&item=221274475477&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466&forcev4exp=true


As an aside, I just noticed that this thread now has over 20K views with 50 pages of posts! :cool:

[28HopUp]

We just added two Arizona Mustangs to the Project. The first is a 1986 Arizona DPS Mustang, which popped up recently for sale in Michigan (includes a copy of the build sheet) -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/AZDPS/1986AZ208340/info208340.htm


...and the second one is a 1987 in Bright Regatta Blue belonging to 67gt500 -

http://www.specialservicemustang.net/VINlist/AZDPS/1987AZ206337/info206337.htm

:)

[28HopUp]

As a follow up to the previous post, Rob aka 67gt500 contacted me about his 87 SSP. He has been unable thus far to verify that his SSP went to the Arizona Department of Public Safety. So I changed the car's page so that the header matches what it says on the Buck Tag - ARIZONA. Hopefully, the car's exact pedigree can be determined in the future.

[v8only]

i took these off of a very early car in the junkyard years back...not sure if it shows the vin but if this helps at all...the car was around an 83 in a so cal yard

[28HopUp]

On the upper tag in the picture, can you confirm the six numbers starting with 213xxx?

[kapracing]

i took these off of a very early car in the junkyard years back...not sure if it shows the vin but if this helps at all...the car was around an 83 in a so cal yard

Dang...
Guess that's one less 82 CHP :-(